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Ok, I paid $75 for discwelder bronze at guitar center. Here are my results:
The software did NOT work with my Lite on 851s dvd+/-rw drive even though the gear drivers support them. I contacted technical support at minnetonka software and they are still looking into it so...
I returned the lite on and picked up a tdk 880n. I got 99 tracks on a dvd-r disc and voila worked like a charm, the tl reads it as 'DVDA' - sweet. I have burned 5 discs now, and each one worked great.
I tried burning fuji and tdk dvd+r discs and they DO NOT work. the els system accepts them, then blinks 'DISC' a few times and spits 'em out. I know I saw some thread of someone burning 1 track onto a dvd+r and making it work, but i tried a few times and NONE of them worked, so...
I contacted minnetonka audio since they helped panasonic in developing the els system and they confirmed that dvd-r is the only format that the els system will recognize.
hope this helps.
The software did NOT work with my Lite on 851s dvd+/-rw drive even though the gear drivers support them. I contacted technical support at minnetonka software and they are still looking into it so...
I returned the lite on and picked up a tdk 880n. I got 99 tracks on a dvd-r disc and voila worked like a charm, the tl reads it as 'DVDA' - sweet. I have burned 5 discs now, and each one worked great.
I tried burning fuji and tdk dvd+r discs and they DO NOT work. the els system accepts them, then blinks 'DISC' a few times and spits 'em out. I know I saw some thread of someone burning 1 track onto a dvd+r and making it work, but i tried a few times and NONE of them worked, so...
I contacted minnetonka audio since they helped panasonic in developing the els system and they confirmed that dvd-r is the only format that the els system will recognize.
hope this helps.
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Good info. Are you doing 16bit/44KHz or 24bit/48KHz wav files?
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Originally Posted by oblio98
Good info. Are you doing 16bit/44KHz or 24bit/48KHz wav files?
and i forgot to mention that the burn process was about 35 minutes
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Well apparently the +R/RW disc's are out of the question based on comments here, however has anyone tried -RW disc's? Also what type of -R (or -RW) media are you using?
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thanks for the info. i bought 25 dvd+r's before the software came out and now i have to go get some -r's. does anyone know where i can pickup discwelder bronze for the best price. or if someone is really nice zip it for me : ). thanks.
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Originally Posted by greenseed
Well apparently the +R/RW disc's are out of the question based on comments here, however has anyone tried -RW disc's? Also what type of -R (or -RW) media are you using?
Thanks.
Thanks.
I have about 10 discs now, almost TOO much music on a disc. Usually with a cd, you pretty much know the order of songs relatively quickly but with the 99 tunes on a dvd, that's about 5 hours of music or so and the quality is surprisingly good, non dvd-a good, but good nonetheless.
incidently, the brand new tdk 880n stopped burning on me (defective unit) so I returned it for a plextor 709a.
so far so good for the plextor...
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I've recently picked up a NEC ND2500A to replace my pioneer A04 unit (which would never burn -R's beyond 1X). I ripped Kill Bill with it burning the complete movie in 15 minutes (not the ripping portion) using DVDxCopy 4.0.3.8.
I have the money to purchase Discwelder Bronze, but the interface looks so cheesy that I'm unwilling to buy it. I'm looking into other ways to create DVD-A's. Might be a bit more complicated, but untill a cheap product comes out that has a useful GUI, I'm holding off.
I have the money to purchase Discwelder Bronze, but the interface looks so cheesy that I'm unwilling to buy it. I'm looking into other ways to create DVD-A's. Might be a bit more complicated, but untill a cheap product comes out that has a useful GUI, I'm holding off.
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Originally Posted by greenseed
I've recently picked up a NEC ND2500A to replace my pioneer A04 unit (which would never burn -R's beyond 1X). I ripped Kill Bill with it burning the complete movie in 15 minutes (not the ripping portion) using DVDxCopy 4.0.3.8.
I have the money to purchase Discwelder Bronze, but the interface looks so cheesy that I'm unwilling to buy it. I'm looking into other ways to create DVD-A's. Might be a bit more complicated, but untill a cheap product comes out that has a useful GUI, I'm holding off.
I have the money to purchase Discwelder Bronze, but the interface looks so cheesy that I'm unwilling to buy it. I'm looking into other ways to create DVD-A's. Might be a bit more complicated, but untill a cheap product comes out that has a useful GUI, I'm holding off.
and bronze is CHEAP and it works!
BTW, i was using memorex (not maxell) dvd-r
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the gui interface is as easy as it gets, like any burning software it shows an explorer view, click and drag or double click to add it the track layout. there are issues with certain items, like i can't drag more than one item at a time but more the most part,it was a piece of cake.
and bronze is CHEAP and it works!
BTW, i was using memorex (not maxell) dvd-r
and bronze is CHEAP and it works!
BTW, i was using memorex (not maxell) dvd-r
I have no doubt that the product works well, I just feel that for $99.00 the product should be a little better. That being said, there’s not a whole lot of competition out there.
For what it’s worth, I came across this little gem:
http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/193049.php
And decided to give it a whirl. In the end, I successfully created a DVD-R Video (Audio) DVD which works great in my home DVD system, but since its not a true DVD-A, fails to play in the TL. Just looking for a cheap way out.
BTW, Thanks for the media feedback. I need to get more so I guess I’ll be buying both DVD-R (for the TL) if I ever get Discwelder and DVD+R for Videos.
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Originally Posted by greenseed
however has anyone tried -RW disc's?
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software is USELESS
can't use mp3s
can't use mp3s
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Thanks for the feedback on the media SVTMike.
SilverTL, could you send the link or search item you used to locate Discwelder Bronze on the Guitar Center website. I searched for about 10-15 minutes without locating the software. The cheapest I saw upto this point was about 80-85 bucks.
Thanks, Brian
SilverTL, could you send the link or search item you used to locate Discwelder Bronze on the Guitar Center website. I searched for about 10-15 minutes without locating the software. The cheapest I saw upto this point was about 80-85 bucks.
Thanks, Brian
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BTW, Easy CD Extractor works great for any audio conversion. Its here: http://www.poikosoft.com/ and free.
But to each his own, as these are a dime a dozen.
All of my media is in Mpeg4 (AAC) storage right now, howerver with Easy CD Extractor, would be very easy to rip any audio CD into .wav and have a much better audio file than to just downconvert my compressed AAC files.
But to each his own, as these are a dime a dozen.
All of my media is in Mpeg4 (AAC) storage right now, howerver with Easy CD Extractor, would be very easy to rip any audio CD into .wav and have a much better audio file than to just downconvert my compressed AAC files.
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You can also use Winamp to convert the MP3s to WAV. Simply hit CTRL+P for the preferences, go to Output (under plugins), select "Nullsoft Disk Writer plug-in", click on Configure, select your destination directory, and "play" the songs that you have on your playlist.
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Winamp's way is too much work. Install dBPowerAmp with shell extensions. Then, select the files to convert, right click, "Convert to..." and pick Wave.
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Originally Posted by greenseed
Thanks for the feedback on the media SVTMike.
SilverTL, could you send the link or search item you used to locate Discwelder Bronze on the Guitar Center website. I searched for about 10-15 minutes without locating the software. The cheapest I saw upto this point was about 80-85 bucks.
Thanks, Brian
SilverTL, could you send the link or search item you used to locate Discwelder Bronze on the Guitar Center website. I searched for about 10-15 minutes without locating the software. The cheapest I saw upto this point was about 80-85 bucks.
Thanks, Brian
glad i did, but it sure does take a long time to weed through which songs I want to convert from mp3, this by FAR is the most time consuming part of this process.
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Thanks again SilverTL. In the end, I'm sure I'll break down and buy it. I'm in the process of weeding through and ordering compatible media.
Just curious, has anyone used any Ritek "G04" DVD-R media in the TL. It seems to rate rather well for most DVD-R burners (including mine) in as far as compatability.
Just curious, has anyone used any Ritek "G04" DVD-R media in the TL. It seems to rate rather well for most DVD-R burners (including mine) in as far as compatability.
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Originally Posted by greenseed
I've recently picked up a NEC ND2500A to replace my pioneer A04 unit (which would never burn -R's beyond 1X). I ripped Kill Bill with it burning the complete movie in 15 minutes (not the ripping portion) using DVDxCopy 4.0.3.8.
I have the money to purchase Discwelder Bronze, but the interface looks so cheesy that I'm unwilling to buy it. I'm looking into other ways to create DVD-A's. Might be a bit more complicated, but untill a cheap product comes out that has a useful GUI, I'm holding off.
I have the money to purchase Discwelder Bronze, but the interface looks so cheesy that I'm unwilling to buy it. I'm looking into other ways to create DVD-A's. Might be a bit more complicated, but untill a cheap product comes out that has a useful GUI, I'm holding off.
As for Bronze, I got it and boy I feel violated. Nothing else that is affordable exisits, and Bronze is very low end and not very flexible. You CAN NOT save the album as an ISO, your CAN NOT drag more than one song at a time onto the new album and when it does nto fit on screen it scrolls down forcing you to scroll back up to drop the next song! WOW it blows, but there is nothing else in a reasonable price.
Being along term Nero user I wrote them an e-mail sugegsting they add simple 2 channel DVD-A support to Nero, even at a fee I would jump all over it! Maybe if enough people write Nero sales they will consider it!
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Actually, my plan was to hold out until Nero had support for DVD-A. They've been getting a head of the game lately with the features they've been adding to Nero. I just cant believe that threes only a very small handful of software developers creating software that will master DVD-A media. Maybe I'll write them a note as well -- good idea.
When I loaded the demo of Discwelder Bronze and was not happy. I've seen various shareware packages that present themselves and function like seriously developed software. Discwelder Bronze does not look like well developed software to me. I'm sure it functions, but needs very basic user features.
I don’t mind paying for good software. DVDXcopy is good software @ 99.00. Has many features and does the job well with flexibility.
Anyhow, as for the A04, I updated to the latest firmware some time back which supposedly would allow it to function @ 2X, but I never was able to achieve 2X.
The NEC unit I have now seems to be much more flexible with media, burns way faster, and even initializes (and identifies) media much faster. Some guy named Herrie hacks the NEC firmware to unlock some of the clamped down features such and allowing it to work with more media.
Actually, my plan was to hold out until Nero had support for DVD-A. They've been getting a head of the game lately with the features they've been adding to Nero. I just cant believe that threes only a very small handful of software developers creating software that will master DVD-A media. Maybe I'll write them a note as well -- good idea.
When I loaded the demo of Discwelder Bronze and was not happy. I've seen various shareware packages that present themselves and function like seriously developed software. Discwelder Bronze does not look like well developed software to me. I'm sure it functions, but needs very basic user features.
I don’t mind paying for good software. DVDXcopy is good software @ 99.00. Has many features and does the job well with flexibility.
Anyhow, as for the A04, I updated to the latest firmware some time back which supposedly would allow it to function @ 2X, but I never was able to achieve 2X.
The NEC unit I have now seems to be much more flexible with media, burns way faster, and even initializes (and identifies) media much faster. Some guy named Herrie hacks the NEC firmware to unlock some of the clamped down features such and allowing it to work with more media.
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try doulble click on the title you're adding, it will not scroll back up. But that doesn't mean it's a polished, finished product.
the only problem is that there aren't ANY other software vendors doing DVD-A at a REASONABLE cost.
I have nero 6 ultra, waiting might mean, well waiting a long time. I now have 10 dvd-r discs. 990 songs is a ton, even on extended road trips. at this rate, i'm thinking about ditching XM when my 3 months are up.
the only problem is that there aren't ANY other software vendors doing DVD-A at a REASONABLE cost.
I have nero 6 ultra, waiting might mean, well waiting a long time. I now have 10 dvd-r discs. 990 songs is a ton, even on extended road trips. at this rate, i'm thinking about ditching XM when my 3 months are up.
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Agreed on your comment regarding other vendors. Perhaps on the Nero comment (or any other product for that matter)!
I'm still on the fence for now with it. I'd really love to have DVD-A discs with all those song on them though.
Agreed on your comment regarding other vendors. Perhaps on the Nero comment (or any other product for that matter)!
I'm still on the fence for now with it. I'd really love to have DVD-A discs with all those song on them though.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Winamp's way is too much work. Install dBPowerAmp with shell extensions. Then, select the files to convert, right click, "Convert to..." and pick Wave.
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Originally Posted by SilverTL
try doulble click on the title you're adding, it will not scroll back up. But that doesn't mean it's a polished, finished product.
the only problem is that there aren't ANY other software vendors doing DVD-A at a REASONABLE cost.
I have nero 6 ultra, waiting might mean, well waiting a long time. I now have 10 dvd-r discs. 990 songs is a ton, even on extended road trips. at this rate, i'm thinking about ditching XM when my 3 months are up.
the only problem is that there aren't ANY other software vendors doing DVD-A at a REASONABLE cost.
I have nero 6 ultra, waiting might mean, well waiting a long time. I now have 10 dvd-r discs. 990 songs is a ton, even on extended road trips. at this rate, i'm thinking about ditching XM when my 3 months are up.
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The software has to create an image file first, then it burns? Nero please help us. Burning 99 songs on the fly without an image file being created would be so much simpler and quicker!
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Originally Posted by sourpatchkid
The software has to create an image file first, then it burns? Nero please help us. Burning 99 songs on the fly without an image file being created would be so much simpler and quicker!
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The software has to create an image file first, then it burns? Nero please help us. Burning 99 songs on the fly without an image file being created would be so much simpler and quicker!
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Send them e-mails, I did, if enough of us ask they will add it. It can not be that hard for them to do 2 channel 16/44.1 DVD-A fairly quick, don't really need 5.1 for now.
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Perhaps, but not everyone will have the MP3s they want to convert to WAV in one folder. It's much easier to pick and choose the songs for your playlist from different drives, directories, etc, and then decode them to WAV.
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Only 99 tracks to a disc? My, that's a whole lot of wasted space..
I tried out the bronze version, and I formed the same opinion as most of the people here: It's pretty unpolished. And since I only get to burn 99 songs to a disc, I'll end up carrying 4 discs around with me just for my 80s collection! That defeats the purpose of not just burning them all on regular CDs.
For the money/trouble, I'd rather go the MP3Car route and spend my time and energy jacking into the XM wires and then get my entire MP3 collection in my car.
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I tried out the bronze version, and I formed the same opinion as most of the people here: It's pretty unpolished. And since I only get to burn 99 songs to a disc, I'll end up carrying 4 discs around with me just for my 80s collection! That defeats the purpose of not just burning them all on regular CDs.
For the money/trouble, I'd rather go the MP3Car route and spend my time and energy jacking into the XM wires and then get my entire MP3 collection in my car.
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And since I only get to burn 99 songs to a disc, I'll end up carrying 4 discs around with me just for my 80s collection! That defeats the purpose of not just burning them all on regular CDs.
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Since upsampling the rips from my CD collection would be a pointless and wasteful (read: dumb) thing to do, I would still burn tracks onto the DVD using the red book specification of 2 channels with 16 bits each and a sampling rate of 44kHz. That makes about 396 song of 11 minutes each. Since discWelder Bronze has the 99-song limitation per disc, that makes 4 discs of 99 songs each at 11 minutes.
Why anyone would want to listen to that much Duran Duran, Wham, INXS and Rockwell is beyond me... but hey, at least I'll look cool when I grow my mullet.
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Why anyone would want to listen to that much Duran Duran, Wham, INXS and Rockwell is beyond me... but hey, at least I'll look cool when I grow my mullet.
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I believe the limit is 99 songs per group not per disc. The TL can play multiple groups by pushing two buttons at the same time. See the following thread for details:
http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85909
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http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85909
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Hmm. According to Craig Holets at Minnetonka Audio Software in reply to an email I sent him:
I have yet to try it because I'm not shelling out $99 to 'test' it, but Lore doesn't seem to think it can.. Does anyone know any different?
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You'll get between 6-7 hours of stereo uncompressed CD quality music
(stereo 16bit/44.1kHz) onto a DVD disk. That is the lowest resolution
accepted. You can put up to 99 audio tracks on a disk with BRONZE.
(stereo 16bit/44.1kHz) onto a DVD disk. That is the lowest resolution
accepted. You can put up to 99 audio tracks on a disk with BRONZE.
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Originally Posted by screaming
Hmm. According to Craig Holets at Minnetonka Audio Software in reply to an email I sent him:
I have yet to try it because I'm not shelling out $99 to 'test' it, but Lore doesn't seem to think it can.. Does anyone know any different?
-Steve
I have yet to try it because I'm not shelling out $99 to 'test' it, but Lore doesn't seem to think it can.. Does anyone know any different?
-Steve
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Originally Posted by screaming
Hmm. According to Craig Holets at Minnetonka Audio Software in reply to an email I sent him:
I have yet to try it because I'm not shelling out $99 to 'test' it, but Lore doesn't seem to think it can.. Does anyone know any different?
-Steve
I have yet to try it because I'm not shelling out $99 to 'test' it, but Lore doesn't seem to think it can.. Does anyone know any different?
-Steve
What I said and what Craig said are two different subjects and are not conflicting pieces of information. It's true, you can get up to about 7 hours of cd-quality music on the disc, but you cannot separate them into groups. That's the part that I said - I've burnt 4 discs with 99 tracks on them each, but they are all in Group 1.
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SO it 2005 now .. has anyone heard of a Better software to make DVD-A discs...
I have Loads of Music Video DVDs (mostly Indian DVD of songs) all 5.1 and I am dying to make an DVD-A discs of all those wonderful sounding songs in 5.1
I have successfully been able to make an AC3 file out of all the DVD-Video VOB file. Tried to make a DTS audio CD ... but not that smart idea as I can only fit like 2 songs in a CD
Cant wait for a Software to take AC3 file and make it DVD-A
I have Loads of Music Video DVDs (mostly Indian DVD of songs) all 5.1 and I am dying to make an DVD-A discs of all those wonderful sounding songs in 5.1
I have successfully been able to make an AC3 file out of all the DVD-Video VOB file. Tried to make a DTS audio CD ... but not that smart idea as I can only fit like 2 songs in a CD
Cant wait for a Software to take AC3 file and make it DVD-A