hahahah! Im waiting on my dumb buddy to install it for me! I dont know ANYTHING about wiring and installation and probably would blow up my car if i tried myself.

 

I know a good installer in your area if you get tired of waiting.

 

Does he work at Circus City?

 

Very funny. No.

 

Could you pm me his info?

 

I think his name is uncald4. I've seen a lot of his work around here. Let me see if I can find his phone number or email address. Standby.

 

 

i failed to put sarcasm in my original post but honestly, i was hoping you might have had someone else a lil closer than gig harbor! ill pm you

 

Being located in an area with many local car audio shops but none that are elite or distinguished, i'd be willing to drive maybe cross state to get work done buy someone that specializes or understands the in's and out's of my car.

Fit and finish are worth the extra drive and $$$$$$$.


These guys out here in western new york are OK but definately dont impress.

by the way uncald4, made a paypal payment this morning, cant wait for my new sub and enclosure!!!!


with matching carpet!!!! :wink:

 

Closer than Gig Harbor huh? I've got a friend that works in Southcenter. The shop is pooh, you might have heard of it, but he does great work.

Matching carpet you say?.......

Ahh.... I think I promised TLAdvanced that I wouldn't flip him anymore shit. I was tempted though. Good setup gynuine69.

 

Thanks Uncald4. I know, not every hand is a winner...

 

so i just wanted to let ya'll (in particular travis) know that i FINALLY got my stuff installed last week... Big ups to Travis with the referral. Doug did a great job. I took some initial pics on my iphone and will be uploading them very soon.

 

Excellent! Good to hear. Doug called and said it looked and sounded damn nice.

 

 

This is the box I built back in 05. I am fixing to redo it to house two 10" subs. It currently has 2 8" subs in it.

 

OMG.... I love Kicker eights. That's nice! You would get a lot more sound pressure into the car if they were not faced at the opposite trunk wall like that.

 

Thank you, they sound really good in there. I am wanting a bit more though but not give up any extra space.

As for sound pressure, it is based on the amount of air volume you have in relation to the amount of air the sub can move. Regardless of what way you face the subs, you still have the same volume in the trunk. Now, if they were facing to the back, you would hear the bass more. This is due to the long wavelength of low frequencies. This is why a lot of competition vehicles try to get the listening area down to the smallest amount as possible.

My goal was to keep them out of the way as much as possible, if I did try to position them any other way it would require loosing some trunk space. I am hoping to get two tens into the same box. Will try to start that work this summer. Need to be able to move more air.

This was the first enclosure I did where I had to much internal air space for the subs. I actually had to fill the box to reduce the amount of air inside.

 

I'm a bit insulted that you felt compelled to correct me. I'm not a newb or a amateur installer making my best guess. I'm a professional installer with over 10 years of experience in high end custom car audio.

When you fire a subwoofer at a surface that is parallel to the surface of the subwoofer it causes the maturing sound waves, especially low frequencies, to bounce back into new sound waves from the woofer cone. This is a form of active sound/noise cancellation. This is a very effective way to lower your sound pressure level and bass output.

When you fire a subwoofer woofer toward the rear surface of the trunk most of the sound waves will bounce forward into the cabin of the car and mature somewhere inside the cabin of the car. This is an easy way to increase your SPL and bass output.

 

I am in the same boat you are, I was a professional installer for more then 10 years. I just recently graduated from school and exited the profession.

You are correct in the statement, in regards to the cancellation of the signal, but the signal in my case not coming straight back at the subs. As for SPL (Sound Pressure Level) it is the amount pressure created by a moving device in an enclosed space. Facing the sub back wards does not increase SPL, it makes the sound wave audible as you stated above. That is due to the length of a low frequency signal.

Most cars designed for SPL reduce the space down to as little air as possible in the cabin area and have the subs sitting right there. They do NOT fire the subs back wards to increase the SPL. Again, most customers want to hear the sub, this is why you fire them back wards, otherwise the bass is heard by everyone but the person in the car.

With the way the trunk in designed in the TL, it acts as a bandpass box and the back seat armrest is the port.

I am not trying to insult you in any way and understand you have experience in the field, but there is a huge difference in audible and SPL. Same reason SPL and RT are 2 different classes.

But with everything, each person has their preference to how they like it to sound. Some like ported boxes over sealed, some like them to fire back wards, up, down or forward. I have tried all 4 in a vehicle and each one has its own pros and cons.

I apologize if you took insult to my comments and did not mean to insight any kind of argument. Here are some pictures from my previous car.








This is actually one of the best sounding boxes I had built. It fired up in a 97 Prelude. I used the same subs I have in the later box in the above picture.

 

awe they are cute! lil baby Kicker subs.