Has anyone ever seen this? haha I'm always a first. It is a TL-S radio in my 05. I converted the navi lights to red, to match the type S radio. I got the radio from ebay with no reported faults in the radio. But when I insert a cd, it puts the word AUX on the top display and it says "extension" on the navi display. I do not have an aux port installed yet. The wires for the aux port are covered with tape and not touching anything. The CD plays, but it shows this on the screen. FM and am and xm, they all display on the screen like they are suppose to. Just only when I press CD, it shows this below, but it does play the cd. Weird!

 

i wonder if it's trying to tell you that you need one, of if it thinks it's so cool that it calls itself one
sorry, i've nothing useful to say, just dumb manhood jokes

 

I might have a bad cd player.. I will post up when I find out what is wrong. I will probably buy an aux port, and connect it, and if that doesn't fix it, then must be a bad cd player. Just doesn't make sense that the display works fine on XM and AM and FM and navigation, but it does this weird thing when I press disc/tape. So I think I have it wired correctly, otherwise it would not display properly on all the other modes.

Anyway, the color came out nicely on my navigation. Low light level does not work well on my cell phone, but here is another example. I lite up the joy stick but you cant tell much in these pics.

 

looks great!

 

That could be the reason it was for sale on eBay.

 

there is nothing wrong, I've done this conversion also. you need the 07-08 sub display unit(clock on top) in order to view the same menu as before.

I think acura was working on the aux setup but decided not to add it onto the 05-06 radio

where did u buy the red lights to match? I would like to do the same in mine.

 

Are you saying that if I get the upper display, then the big navi display will show the cd track screen? So why does my upper display say "AUX"? if it is not capable?

I think the pinout is the same on the sub-display when you compare the 05 and the type-s.
So, it seems that would not effect anything.

I bought these http://www.superbrightleds.com/morei...panel-led/220/ But I installed an inline resistor and a relay to control the red lights because I blew something on the navi board when I was installing the lights by themselves. These LEDs come with a tiny diode and a tiny resistor on each leg that is contained inside the base of the neo-wedge bulb. So, they should be able to handle some current without any added resistors. However, they were too bright. So, I installed a resistor in series to reduce the current and this brought the illumination of the LED's down to where they matched the cd player.

 

I think someone sold me an altered cd player. I think the cd output failed and they made a physical change in the interworking's of the cd player so when I go to cd mode, it plays the cd on the aux channel somehow if that is possible. When I press the XM/Aux button, it just goes to XM. There is no Aux display except for when you press CD and play a CD. So I think someone has tried to repair it and this is the result. So, I opened a case with ebay. The thing was not marketed as "repaired" or remanufactured.

by the way, the LED is 3mm.

 

When you plug into the Aux port in your console, does the navi display say "extension"?

 

Nope. It say AUX.

 

Ok thanks. Something is funky with this cd player.

 

the 07-08 sub display are programmed different than ours, plus only need to reverse two pins to make it work

 

Yeah, I'd say that whomever sold you the unit knew about the issue.

 

I decided to close the ebay case because someone on here told me they connected the TL-S cd player to their 05 like I did and got the same "extension" word on the display. And their aux button only operated the XM function and the CD played with the Aux on the sub-display (just like mine). So, this may be an incompatibility between the 2 systems rather than a defect of the cd player. I doubt reversing those pins on the sub-display will change anything because the navi-display and the sub-display are original equipment and nothing changed there. Now if I replaced the navi screen with a newer one or if I replaced the sub-display with a newer one then yes I would need to reverse the pins on the sub-display or the navi display so that IMS0 will connect to IMS0 and IMS1 would connect to IMS1. But again, that did not change on that "side" of the navi-screen. I only changed the the side of the navi screen that faces the CD player. And I manually made an adapter-harness that connected IMS0 to IMS0 and IMS1 to IMS1. The IMS is the bus for screen graphics. And the navi-screen controls the sub-display. So, whatever is sent to the navi screen from the CD player is then passed on the the sub-display. Therefore I do not think that reversing the pins on the sub-display will change anything. The key is keeping the IMS0 and IMS1 pins connected properly to each other and don't cross them. And I did that properly on the harness I made, that exists between the CD player and the navi-screen.

Anyway, since this other person told me that he experienced the same issue as me, and provided there is nothing wrong with BOTH of our CD PLayers, then I suspect that when you press CD, then the CD player must send more data or differently formatted data to the navi-screen than what my 05 CD player did. Reason I say that is because AM, FM, and XM all work fine and display properly on the navi screen and sub-display. It's only when you press CD, then I assume the navi-display is confused! So, in summary, I think I have to upgrade the Navi display too! Isn't that wild? If I had known that I would not contemplate going this route. But "it is what it is" for now.. I can revert back to factory setup and install white bulbs, and the original CD player and SELL THE CAR.. haha or spend another $500 on the display. Gee What to do! If only the 2014 Genesis Coupe was out. I think we may have to wait a few more months. I hear they might put a 5.0 in it.. Yee hawl!

 

What are you trying to do exactly? Just have red lights?

 

Really? Did you even read the thread? He has red lights but is trying to get the display not to read "extension" when he's in CD mode.

 

Eh? Was just trying to help. I see what he is trying to fix now that its pieced together. Wondering why he chose an S head unit with red lights for a base that has white? The red lights seems a logical guess.

Good luck.

 

I would have just answered the guy who likely has the most extensive knowledge of the TL's electronics and what is one of the best systems on the planet but that's just me.

I've wondered what the reason for doing this was in the first place as well.

 

Anyway.. the point to where I have arrived is this:

The 07/08 TypeS cd player is not fully compatible with the 05 Navi display. The Sub-display takes its queues from the Navi Display, so flipping something on it, won't solve any issues as far as I can tell. The sub-display is connected to the navi display. That's it. Besides, its not the sub-display that is confused the most, it is the navi display.

I created a small 26pin to 40pin adapter cable for the cd player and connected IMS0 to IMS0 in the harness and IMS1 to IMS1 in the harness and still, the cd mode does not function properly. You can see that in the video. osvaldo516 was kind enough to send me his pinouts of the 08 tls and I compared it to my pinouts of the 08 (not sure which model) and they both matched. And I double checked my "adapter harness" that I created to make sure the pinout was correct and it is. Simply put, the 08 Cd player is not 100% compatible, but maybe only 75% compatible with the 05 Display. You see, the Navi display is the "Brain". You have to update the brain along with the peripherals, like DVD player and cd player and whatever else is connected to the display.

So, since the cd player is installed, the next option would be to install the Navi Display from an 08 model. But if you look at the connectors on the back of the 08, there are two 22 pin connectors whereas the 05 model has 1 22pin connector and 14pin connector. Those 2 are the primary connectors of concern. So, that means I would have to make another adapter harness. arg. A good place to get connectors is http://www.te.com/en/home.html But honestly, I am almost over this. Its been a month and my interior needs to be cleaned up. So basically in order to fix the cd player, (if you want to do this conversion) then you need to swap out the navi display too. But in order to do that, you need to create a few pigtails to adapt to the 05 harness. And even then, you will not have "Acuralink" because the harness has no wires for it. You will have to run your own separate wires. Listen, everything is doable if you have unlimited time and if you can deem it "worth it" and have deep pockets. haha.. My pockets are pretty deep but I am approaching "not worth it". And this is why:

I am starting to think it may be best to revert my cd player back to the 05 cd player and snag a Grom. The latest Grom has a lot of good features for my android. PLUS, I can swap the board that contains the RED lights with my 05. I think that might work. Then I can mount a USB in the car and I also ordered an AUX port from a newer TSX. So, I can interface all that and make it look professional AND still retain my red lights. Then I will sell the other cd player as a base 08 cd player with white lights. And I might even have a few more options, since USB is there. I can see drilling out a hole in the console somewhere for the USB. And inserting a cover into the USB port when it is not in use.

Anyway, if you plug in a 2008 Type S CD player into a 2005 system, this is what you will get:

 

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Sounds like your idea of going back to an 05 is best at this point. Converting my 05 base to 07 navi was a pita even with the kit and Acuralink does not work.

KP

 

thanks. So I apologize for going as far as I did. Steve is right.

Anyway, I know someone who has a newer 07/08 dvd player in the trunk but the 05 CD player and 05 everything else. And his displays the CD mode just fine. Mine is/was stuck in EXT/AUX mode. But it was only stuck in aux mode when you press CD. It worked ok in XM and AM and FM. But I have only the newer 07/08 CD player and 05 everything else. So, I'm sure it has to do with mixing these components together that gets different results. But even this person I know, everything on his works ok with the dvd upgrade but his clock is off by 6 hours but only between 12am and 6am.. How is that for strange? I guess that is not a big deal because usually most people are not out that time of night, but still, there is something going on there. Some kind of incompatibility. So, without sinking a thousand dollars into it by upgrading everything and still having a harness issue, I just got the Grom unit. However, I have already swapped out the face plates of both units and I swapped the red silicone boot light covers so I will keep the red color and the Grom will do MP3 on USB and it adds an aux port so the verbiage on the faceplate of the newer unit is not false. I also bought a 2010 TSX aux port and I think it is just like the TL. It has a spring action lid and it says Aux on it.. Plus I got a pigtail on it. So, it will look factory when I am done. I also got a Type S sub-display in the mail. It has not been delivered yet. I was working on the cd player before any light conversions. I found another place that has those 3mm lights. They have some SEP numbers listed too. The 6th square down the middle says Neowedge http://autolumination.com/

 

I just put the navi and the cd player back in, and I noticed the blue around the volume and other round button is BLUE! And I don't know what bulb I missed. So I have to take it back out again. So this makes the 10th time probably. (or more) And I also noticed with the red boots on my 05 board, the luminosity is not as bright as on the 08 tls cd player. I think the tls cd player bulbs must have more power to light up red. So, now the brightness of the navi doesn't match the cd player. I can fix it but I like the way the navi is now. And I hate to tone it down. (not that it is greatly bright anyway). So, this whole thing is turning out to be a PITA. I guess I could put the tls cd player back in it and Buy a tls DVD player, and see if that will fix the cd mode, and allow it to show the cd screen instead of the aux, but if it doesn't then wasted another $500 .. Or just take it all back to blue/white navi and forget about it. What an experience. It's like trial and error the whole way