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Old 09-19-2005, 11:01 PM
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Why the TL costs less than a TSX

I was just browsing through some TSX forums. Holy modding hell! Thank god I bought a TL, I think I saved about $5000 on mods. They have a ton of stuff eh? Why are the companies that make kits and parts focusing so much on TSX when the TL is selling more cars? OR am I wrong on that?
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the TSX is more of a racing/younger oriented car...the TL is aimed more for towards a family oriented audience. and they figure that kids are more likely to mod their cars with their hormonal rushes to show how big thier........


anywho....yea...it kinda bothers me too being a TL owner and not having so many after market parts to choose from.
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Fair enough I suppose. Sort of silly though when the TL can smoke a TSX and does awesome in races (see the performance forum and look for the thread about a TL coming in 3rd in endurance race... awesome thread, awesome car!)

But yeah. I can see the image of the TSX is more of a younger thing... dare i say "ricey" mods to some extent? Some of them do look great however!
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TSX, or a slightly different version of it (Euro Accord), is sold worldwide. Which means there are more TSX's/Euro Accords out there than the 3G TL's (read: larger market).

And since the TSX/Euro Accord is available in Japan, companies like Spoon, Mugen, etc are making products for 'em... and they have been out for longer.

No disrespect, but I wouldn't call anything on the TSX ricey when you guys are busy putting on blue/white LED's, painted calipers, and other visual mods.

Most of the TSX guys on the forum are performance oriented - they spend thousands for lighter, stronger rims, and suspension components that make their TSX handle like its on rails.
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They don't sell the TL in japan? Hey I might have blue leds and calipers but next up is new suspension, comptech sway and aem intake Just wish I had the balls, skills and tools to install them myself.
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Originally Posted by tzakiel
They don't sell the TL in japan? Hey I might have blue leds and calipers but next up is new suspension, comptech sway and aem intake Just wish I had the balls, skills and tools to install them myself.
yup, only NA (i think) has the tl. japan doesn't have a usdm tl, badged as a jdm honda "xyz."

both the tl and tsx are nice rides. can't go wrong with either one.
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Originally Posted by tzakiel
They don't sell the TL in japan? Hey I might have blue leds and calipers but next up is new suspension, comptech sway and aem intake Just wish I had the balls, skills and tools to install them myself.
No, the previous gen was sold in Japan as Inspire, but the USDM Accord is now JDM Inspire.

The TL is made exclusively for the US... and some Canadians.

Heh, relax. Like I said, I didn't mean any disrespect - just wanted to point out that the TSX guys on the forum aren't ricey at all. They're more performance oriented than the TL crowd, if anything.

CT RSB and AEM CAI don't take too much skill to install (although I had my bro do mine but only 'cuz he knows what he's doing and it saved a lot of time).
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TSX, or a slightly different version of it (Euro Accord), is sold worldwide. Which means there are more TSX's/Euro Accords out there than the 3G TL's (read: larger market).

And since the TSX/Euro Accord is available in Japan, companies like Spoon, Mugen, etc are making products for 'em... and they have been out for longer.

No disrespect, but I wouldn't call anything on the TSX ricey when you guys are busy putting on blue/white LED's, painted calipers, and other visual mods.

Most of the TSX guys on the forum are performance oriented - they spend thousands for lighter, stronger rims, and suspension components that make their TSX handle like its on rails.

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gotta good point, or should I say points, there..:P
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I drove the TSX and loved it. I might trade in the TL for a TSX in a few years if it keeps looking so sharp and driving so well. I loved both.
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Originally Posted by tzakiel
I drove the TSX and loved it. I might trade in the TL for a TSX in a few years if it keeps looking so sharp and driving so well. I loved both.
Haha I know what you mean. I was all set to buy a TSX (after ruling out the Saab 9-3 Aero), but the dealership couldn't find a 6MT for me... but they had an Anthracite 6MT in stock, so I got it instead of waiting for months.
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I don't think any amount of modding short of FI would make the TSX fast...those things are so slow. They are good cars overall though but speed isn't its forte. They do seem to have less quality issues though. The SC kit should make the car a good sleeper though.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
I don't think any amount of modding short of FI would make the TSX fast...those things are so slow. They are good cars overall though but speed isn't its forte. They do seem to have less quality issues though. The SC kit should make the car a good sleeper though.
So slow compared to what, the TL?

Compared to the cars in its class, it doesn't exactly fall behind in power and speed. It's still decently quick, and RealTime Racing has been racing their two TSXs very successfully.
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Originally Posted by EZZ
I don't think any amount of modding short of FI would make the TSX fast...those things are so slow. They are good cars overall though but speed isn't its forte. They do seem to have less quality issues though. The SC kit should make the car a good sleeper though.
I've seen few TSX's (i/h/e/ hondata reflash) run mid 15's to some low 15's - MT, of course.

And then there are 5AT TL's running low to mid 15's, those with heavy 18"+ wheels will be even slower.

5AT TSX's are slow, but the 6MT's can be pretty quick.
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Originally Posted by ndx2
I've seen few TSX's (i/h/e/ hondata reflash) run mid 15's to some low 15's - MT, of course.

And then there are 5AT TL's running low to mid 15's, those with heavy 18"+ wheels will be even slower.

5AT TSX's are slow, but the 6MT's can be pretty quick.
I guess its all relative. I think my G35 coupe is slow. I would say the STi's are quick and the C6 vette would be fast. Remember, most v6 family sedans are mid 6 in the 60 and high 14 second cars (Altima, Accord, Legacy etc...). Relatively, anything over 6 seconds isn't really fast nowadays.
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I can't help but laugh at some of you that would consider going from a TL to a TSX. Financial reasons seem to be the only objective logic there.
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Oh give them a break! Everyone has their own taste.
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Originally Posted by 2005Aspec
I can't help but laugh at some of you that would consider going from a TL to a TSX. Financial reasons seem to be the only objective logic there.
Yeah, I've only been eating every other day to afford my TL.

I'd only have to skip my meals every 2 days if I get a TSX.
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Originally Posted by ndx2
Yeah, I've only been eating every other day to afford my TL.

I'd only have to skip my meals every 2 days if I get a TSX.
SO tell me again why going to a slower, less luxurious car, is an amenity-esque decision.
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^ the same people who owns an Acura RL could say the same thing about our TL.
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
^ the same people who owns an Acura RL could say the same thing about our TL.

I guess you dont read for comprehension purposes.

If I were saying "I have an RL and want to go to a TL," then it would apply.

Going from a TL to a TSX, is like going from a 545 to a 330, or an A6 to an A4, or a GS430 to an IS350.

Catch my drift?
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Have you ever driven a heavily modified TSX? I suggest you try it out and you'll think differently. But to answer your question, some people don't need that much luxury when it comes to cars. TSX is a nice enough car with good handling, while leaves room for other modifications.

Also, you might want to use that "SEARCH" button, there are plenty of threads made by folks who went from TL to TSX... lots of reasons.
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
Have you ever driven a heavily modified TSX? I suggest you try it out and you'll think differently. But to answer your question, some people don't need that much luxury when it comes to cars. TSX is a nice enough car with good handling, while leaves room for other modifications.

A heavily modified TSX,hahhaahahaha. Yes please can I throw FI and a handful of other mods on a TSX to go run times that my Vette will piss on.

I dont have any problem with modifying a TSX, but in my opinion if you bought the car to modify for speed you're a retard. Spending the near 25k+/- on a TSX is just dumb with what's out there for modification purposes.
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Judging by the way you post, it's senseless to argue with an immature person.
(comparing a corvette to a TSX )
Do a search if you really wonder.
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
Judging by the way you post, it's senseless to argue with an immature person.
(comparing a corvette to a TSX )
Do a search if you really wonder.
I only wonder because the platform of both the TL and TSX are not "modification" friendly, by today's standards.

It is senseless to argue with someone when your argument is based on some of the most subjectively horrific information. Considering a heavily modified TSX as support for the downgrade is ridiculous in the strictest sense.

How can someone with above average cognitive ability consider going from a TL to a TSX strictly for X reason, if it doesnt include finances? I guess the only answer that has some non-financial motive is seemingly that you want a "smaller" vehicle.

Go slap the Comptech SC that will be out in october on a 6 speed TL and find me a "heavily modified" TSX to race it.
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Originally Posted by 2005Aspec
A heavily modified TSX,hahhaahahaha. Yes please can I throw FI and a handful of other mods on a TSX to go run times that my Vette will piss on.
Oh ya well my Yamaha R1 times will take a on your Vette times
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It's amazing how many threads go down the pisser here...

If you think about it, the TSX doesn't cost less unless you keep it stock...buy a TSX and mod it up and you've spent as much as you would've on a TL and the handful of mods available for it.
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Originally Posted by Donte99TL
Oh ya well my Yamaha R1 times will take a on your Vette times
Youre damn right it does!!!
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Originally Posted by TheMainEvEnt
Judging by the way you post, it's senseless to argue with an immature person.
(comparing a corvette to a TSX )
Do a search if you really wonder.
I have to agree with you TME.

While cost is certainly an issue, it really wasn't the issue with me. I was looking for handling, and the quality issue sort of turned me off the TL. I had a 2nd generation TL, and I did extensive reading on this board on the 3rd gen TL, and while I think it is one the sexiest cars on the road, I felt the VALUE in the TSX gave it an advantage. So I got a 2005 and I am going to go to town on the mods.

If Acura takes the TL in the direction I want it to...I may get a TL next time. But they have to resolve some issue for me first. Not to say I think the TL is not a good car. In fact, I had quite the difficult time deciding between the two, and finally opted for the TSX.
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