Any news on next TL release? Type S or whatever, when should this model will be available?
Just did quick look on new Accord my neighbor get, changes are small but visible.
It seems Honda changing Accords faster then Acura models.

 

I don't believe there will be a type S for this Gen, they are already putting the perfect amount of power to the front wheels. I do expect the next gen may have a type S due to they addition of SH-AWD

 

I would be surprised to see type-S putting down around 300HP(probably using 3.5liter engine).

Aren't we darn close to limit on 3.2Liter now? Acura started at 225,260 now we get 270.

Nissan squeezes 298 out of 3.5L
Lexus gets 305 out of 3.5L
Mitsubishi gets 263 out of 3.8L

I think we are at "there is no replacement for displacement" situation for Natural engines in market. 4G probably will have to use 3.5liter engine, just my thought.

 

Why won't acura just used forced induction in the 4g? I don't get it, are there any major drawbacks to a supercharger, no lag, minimal added weight...

 

Major drawbacks to superchargers are probably noise, packaging, and cost. I don't think you will ever see a factory supercharged Acura, but a turbo may hold some promise in the future. I hope so.

 

Production cost (which runs from R&D to tuning to actual production... and incorporating FI into a previously non-FI production line is EXPENSIVE), maintenance cost, warranty replacement/service cost, etc, etc. And of course, a higher MSRP which could drive potential customers away. Nobody in this market segment is looking for a supercharged/turbocharged FWD sedan. They are looking for a quick and comfortable car. Paying thousands extra for an FI application will deter MANY people from buying the TL, whose main strength is luxury and reliability at an affordable price. That means higher price = less buyers, and the potential number of customers attracted to the TL due to the FI application will not be enough to make up for the loss from higher prices.

It's just not worth it. Besides, Honda isn't exactly known for OEM FI applications. Companies like Mitsubish and Subaru have mastered that and they know how to do it right, and do it cheap.

 

Honda had to make some changes to the Accord. It was UGLY and was not selling. The TL is selling well and not due for a change yet.

 

Im saying instead of putting in a 3.5 persay, put in any for of FI(I like SC) when it comes to making an AWD model.

 

Apart from one brief moment of madness in the 1980s (and on a motorcycle engine, no less), Honda has never built (and I hope it never builds) a turbocharged engine for a consumer product. Turbocharging and/or supercharging is the easy way out, and usually the last resort of the technologically-challenged. If Honda could accept the ideology of turbocharging/supercharging, we would never have seen VTEC in the first place.

 

There will never be another Acura "Type S". That moniker is dead when the last current-gen RSX rolls off the line.


As far as the limits of the 3.2L, I don't think 270 is all. If Honda can pull 240HP out of a NA 2.2L I4 then they can pull more out of a 3.2L than 270... we may be at the limits of SOHC 3.2s but not 3.2s in general.

 

Sure Accord is ugly, I think new one even worse. But I think they are selling well this is why they could invest to the changes sooner then Acura. Same with Civic's just look outside no more space on highways - only Civics with stupid big pipes and Toyota Carola's (with the same stupid addition).
I mean TL would beat Infinity G35 if Acura waked up and produce 2 door TL - AWD with 300 hp. And same 300 hp for regular model. I don't even care if it will jump to 3.5L engine.

 

Sorry, but now we get 258 while G35 still same 295 ...

 

Sorry, but let's not get started again. This has been discussed several times already. Bottom line, the TL makes 258 based on the new standards. The G35 makes 295 based on the old standards. If/when they switch over, they will most likely take a hit, too.... which is probably why they haven't switched over, just like Ford, DCX, etc.

 

Why not get a Chevy instead

 

Chevy is for low octane grade people ....