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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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Wheelspin with 5AT???

Last night I went out to the street behind my house and did about seven 0-60 runs, having a friend time them the best we could. Most of them were around 7 seconds but I wasn't doing anything but punching the accelerator to the floor and going. All this was done with the VSA OFF. That brings me to my question:

How much wheelspin are you guys getting with the TL?????

I was stomping the accelerator from a dead stop with no VSA and the tires were cutting loose only very slightly. The rpm's were popping up to about 3200 and then the car would launch from there. This car definitely won't smoke the tires. Keep in mind this was on clean, dry, pretty grippy pavement. I have been able to get more spin when leaving a stoplight and getting on the smooth, white-painted, crosswalk stripes, but my question really relates to clean, dry pavement.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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I get a lot of wheelspin without the VSA with my 5AT in the dry. Even the VSA isn't much help as last night in the rain I was still getting tons of wheelspin.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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So I wonder if my car is a dog??? Friday car, maybe...

I mean I get a little spin, but not excessive. It's not like its smoking the tires or sitting momentarilly before taking off.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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My car doesn't light 'em through 3rd or anything, but if I flash the throttle it will light the tires more than just a few chirps. With the VSA on with dry payment I get a slight chirp. In the wet, even with VSA it will light 'em through 2nd, w/o VSA it will go through 3rd gear or until I let out. My OEM tires don't hook for crap.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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ah I knew I wasnt the only one, Yeah Im getting alot of wheel spin, but im not getting any rattle with the car. Do you think wheel spin is a good enough reason for acura to give me new tires?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:33 PM
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Why do you need new tires if you have no rattle?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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Why do you need new tires if you have no rattle?
better traction
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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I did two 0-60 w/out vsa off... and i got 7.3 and 6.9... now i gotta try with vsa off.... should be fun
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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I really need the new tires, The traction on these tires suck,

I know people are getting new tires cause of the rattle problem, did anyone complain about traction?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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With the auto the best times are VSA off and torque braking to 2500 rpms.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by vtechbrain
With the auto the best times are VSA off and torque braking to 2500 rpms.

You mean "kicking both pedals together and do not release the brake until 2500 RPM"...? Thanks.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by rets
You mean "kicking both pedals together and do not release the brake until 2500 RPM"...? Thanks.
Yep, dont over do it. What you're doing is winding up the torque converter before the launch, never pass 3000 or you'll fry the tranny very quickly!
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by vtechbrain
With the auto the best times are VSA off and torque braking to 2500 rpms.
can you put it in N gear and go to 2500rpm then put it in drive?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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wouldn't u **** up the gear like that ?
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by tlxlr8s
can you put it in N gear and go to 2500rpm then put it in drive?
only if you want to f*ck up your transmission
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Originally posted by tlxlr8s
can you put it in N gear and go to 2500rpm then put it in drive?
That, my friends, is known as a neutral drop and I for one would not abuse my car like that.

I feel better about it the last couple of posts because my car does spin the tires, just not excessively and I'm coming in right around 7 seconds or a little under for 0-60 times. It seems they spin while the rpm guage hits 3000 pretty quickly and then the car takes off.

Has anyone noticed if the tires chirp when shifting into second on the 5AT????

Mine don't, and I kind of doubt they would because the high speed you can get to in first.

Does anyone know if the parking brake engages the rear tires only. I would feel comfortable holding the car with the parking brake while reving and then releasing to launch, but I would guess this would require some practice and skill to get it right.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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geez.

stop killing your car!..

flame me....but..
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by tlxlr8s
can you put it in N gear and go to 2500rpm then put it in drive?
Neutral drops will break the trans. The best way to launch is the forementioned power break, but you can kill the trans doing that too (called burning down the converter).
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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No wonder so many 2003 TL trannys let go. Guys were probably driving them like this. BTW - I have a 5AT with the HPT tires and have NO wheelspin on dry pavement. I think I get a better zero to sixty as well but haven't tracked it yet.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by ndabunka
No wonder so many 2003 TL trannys let go. Guys were probably driving them like this. BTW - I have a 5AT with the HPT tires and have NO wheelspin on dry pavement. I think I get a better zero to sixty as well but haven't tracked it yet.
I think the little bit of wheel spin I do have is probably good. It allows the car to quickly get over 3000 rpm's and it launches from there. The quicker you get to peak hp the better.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by tlxlr8s
can you put it in N gear and go to 2500rpm then put it in drive?
If you do rhat little pieces of tranny will start flying in there! Definite NO on that scenario!
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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Amazing guts. I bow down to you guys who lay out $30K+ and try to trash it. You got guts.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by vtechbrain
With the auto the best times are VSA off and torque braking to 2500 rpms.
Speaking the truth...
This is one of the factors which helps a manual tranny get off the line quicker than an auto with a standard stall converter. A manual can get the rpm's up into the peak torque range from a dead stop, and burn the clutch.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:36 AM
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I have no wheel spin on dry pavement with VSA off and I see that as a good thing. I don't understand the fasination with many of you have with the 60 times of this car. If you wanted a true sports car, you should have bought one. This is a sedan, a very nice, very fast sedan, but it is still a sedan. I wonder if some of you even noticed the back seat during your test drives?
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by teamtl
I have no wheel spin on dry pavement with VSA off and I see that as a good thing. I don't understand the fasination with many of you have with the 60 times of this car. If you wanted a true sports car, you should have bought one. This is a sedan, a very nice, very fast sedan, but it is still a sedan. I wonder if some of you even noticed the back seat during your test drives?
The TL has a back seat?????
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by AcuraTLjaTT559
I did two 0-60 w/out vsa off... and i got 7.3 and 6.9... now i gotta try with vsa off.... should be fun
im confused..which one is on which one is oFF?
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by rynpamn21
im confused..which one is on which one is oFF?
They are both with VSA on. I think he was going out to try it with it off.
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