fonsim0

I want to know waht are your times and Mph.
Mine is 14.6 at 96mph with one catalitic out and no air filter in the box.
I'm proud of this time.

Teh Jatt

ok.... what u got auto or manual?

what was ur 0-60? 60ft?

Bri'sMystic

Subscribing. Wondering what a stock auto and manual runs in the quarter (et/mph).

Bri-

wavshrdr

It would also be helpful if you posted what day of the year, temp conditions, what fuel, launch technique, 60' times, stock tires (or other), 5AT or 6MT any special info and last but not least, altitude of your dragstrip (altitude is very important)! Anything else you can mention otherwise it's not worth a damn to know what you ran.

fonsim0

My Tl is 6mt, the 60ft was 2.3 the temp is about 83 and is in Puerto Rico this is with 18' wheels.
My technique is from about 3000rpm drop the pedal to the end and thats it.

fonsim0

Fuel was 93 octane
and my 0-60mph is 6.3seconds

Scott GN231

Good times! How did you calculate 0-60 above?

Others please join-- need to know what to expect with the my auto TL when I take it for testing this spring. Hoping my wife can beat the old timer of our racing group's 14.92 @ 96 in his 2004 Impala SS-- it will be the battle of the daily drivers!

-Scott

fonsim0

The time slip in race track tells all the info

chusteveb

hmm, I just happen to have my time slip right here, ... So I ran my TL way too soon in it's life (2 weeks old) but I was outta town and with a friend and since I hardly go to the track and not run, ... Night of Aug 13 @ PIR (Portland, OR), 6MT with HPT 100% stock + full tank of gas and luggage in the trunk (girlfriend wouldn't let me unload it), 14.80 @95MPH, 60' 2.39. I hit it this on my 4th and final pass. With in those passes I now know that VSA off is good, climate control off is good, and airing down the HPT (RE030, or whatever they are) to about 18psi is good.

BTW, I went with a friend who had just installed cams and cam gears into his focus (on top of him already having all the bolt on's, protons, neutrons, etc.), ... I almost felt bad beating him but not really. Also now that the TL has some real miles on it and has it's oil changed, the 'butt-o-meter' says the TL is now faster than that day.

Scott GN231

Wow, that's pretty neat. I've made about 500 passes at 6 different strips and have never seen one produce a 0-60 mph time-- do they have a radar gun set up?

cvajs

you can feel the car is faster with more miles ??!! more miles typically does not give you the "i can feel it" factor. i wonder if these ECU's are programmed to open up more with more miles logged in??

Pro Stock John

Fon, what rpm were you shifting at the mph looks a little low from what I have seen.

I have not raised mine, but I'm sure that a 2.2 60ft is in the cards. Feels like high 13.9's or 14.2's.

cM3go

you guys need to scan your slips

D_Nyholm

Just subscribing to check out some times!!!

ONAGER

no one else notice that he ran without a filter?

first off great times, cant wait till i get mine to the track.... next dont run the car with out a filter thats asking for problem. tracks always have little pieces of rubber / dirt all over them sucking this up would be bad. its probably less then 1 hp gained as well, if you want use a k&N or at least some other filter to catch even the big stuff

D_Nyholm

I wouldn't be too concerned about running without an air filter on the track considering there isn't anyone to throw stuff up at you (if the car in the lane next to you is similar speed or slower). The guy who runs before you is long gone before you even go.

fonsim0

The filter off give to me from a 14.7 to 14.6 and from 95mph to 96mph. Is more than 1hp

D_Nyholm

That usually equates to about 10 hp then. Not a bad mod!!!

fonsim0

I shift for about 6900rpm to rev limiter

wavshrdr

I can understand trying to get your car set up for the track to run it's best times but I personally like to see how my cars do in total street trim. This is typically how you will encounter other cars on the road.

I have a friend who has a hi-performance Camaro. It is a low 11 sec. car at the track on "street tires". He will be beat my Rex by about a 1/2 second at the track. Whenever I see him on the street he won't even come near me because he knows that my track setup is nothing special. I don't bolt on a set of special tires and take everything out of the car. On a normal day I'll beat him almost every time. At the track he can beat me. I like the fact that what my car will run at the track it'll run at the street. I could probably pick up a few tenths by going for race gas, remapping my fuel injection, upping the boost a bit more, etc. I just like that fact that at any given time I know the car will click of a consistent 11 sec. qtr. mile.

So I find it slightly humorous (in a truly good way) that pulling out the air filter will drop a tenth. That is significant. What I want to know is if you find someone you want to play with on the street are you going to pull over and pop out your air filter first before you run them?

A 14.6 or 14.7 isn't a bad run anyway. At our track which is not a sea level I saw modded Audi S4's (chips, exhaust, a few other mods) only running 14.1 or so.

ONAGER

that could be standard diviation.... my contour ran all over the board depending on a # of factors. fastest was a 15.1 @ 93mph average was 15.3 @91-92

60ft times sucked

my point is coolant temp, weather factors, driver error (hate to say, but true since we all dont have the consistency of a manual) and many more could be the difference that you equate

i still would never run my car at the track, street or otherwise without at least the resemblance of an airfilter, but to each their own, he paid for it

Nitrotiger

i ran 14.2 at 98 mph and have back it a few times

ONAGER

excellent times nitro!!!!

chusteveb

anyone ever try and use a G-Tech?

BTW I've always had Nitrotiger's times in the back of my head and with a decent 60' it shouldn't be too far fetched, ... Great driving Nitrotiger. Now that I know my car better, I'll try again in the spring.

D_Nyholm

I've used the G-Tech at the track. It would be consistently 2 mph optimistic and about .2-.3 faster than the real time. I understand the mph thing since your mph at the track is an average of the last 66 ft of travel, the g-tech uses instant speed. As for the .2-.3, it was always there...every time. It was consistent enough to be ablet o use it on the street and know if a mod actually did something.

chusteveb

Maybe it's just that the more I drive the TL, the more I love it so I'd like to say it 'feels faster' but you are probably right because I've never heard of an ECU that opens up w/ more miles. I know that from the factory the honda cars get an addative put in with the very first oil in the motor. In fact Honda advises not to change the oil too early because of it, so for now I write off the 'faster factor' to when I changed out my oil and run the full synthetic. Anyways, when I say the 'butt-o-meter' actually it's true IMO and should be coupled with the 'ear-o-meter' because I just recently started to significantly notice a change into V-Tec when in the past I didn't, the distinctive tone and and revived constant pull to redline. This is all stock without any aftermarket filters, intakes, etc., and this is something that I've looked for in the past but never could find. I actually didn't even know when the TL goes into V-Tec w/o the help of you guys on this board! Anyways, maybe I'll prove myself wrong the next time I go to the track but until then hitting that V-tec spot is getting addicting!!! (...and my gas mileage is starting to go down too, lol.)

wavshrdr

I've had pretty good luck using a G-Tech and other accelerometers. If they have a calibration adjustment so you can compensate for the pitch of the car at launch you can make them more accurate. The shorter the car and the harder it launches the more this will be a factor. G-Tech on my bike says it'll run 8's. I wish! It typically is running mid to upper 9's with my butt on it. It is the wheelies in the lower gears that throw it off.

Main thing is I too have found them to be very conistent and great help getting the car dialed in even when you don't have a real track handy. Something that can be helpful is to put a video camera in you car and set up it to watch your car instruments and G-Tech together. A record of your run and you can analyze what worked and what didn't.

Another great tool is Car Test 2000 to try and see what effect mods can have on a car and play with gearing and tire scenarios. It is a great program for doing simulated runs on a PC. The more data you can input into it, the more accurate it will become. It can be really helpful for determining shift points. If you have a real dyno plot to give it hard numbers it can be incredibly accurate predicting to about .1 seconds what your car can actually run. It isn't expensive but it is pretty sweet. What I like is you can try different rpm and styles of launches to see what will work best before you go out and abuse the car.

Nitrotiger

Not far fetched at all i posted the time slips awhile ago the car makes power just have to learn how to tame the sucker

TheOne305

I have 13k miles now and my car is WAY faster now.Before with about 5k miles or more i put the shifter into "L" with VSA off,air off and punched it from a dead stop and the tires broke loose with a CHIRP .Now that i have 13k i do the samething and the tires break loose and stay loose until it shifts to 2nd.The first time that happened i wa like .So i tried it again and YUP,it did it again. Im so happy!

AcuraVic

Hey, it could be my imagination, but at 13,500 miles I swear it got quicker.

Pro Stock John

Nothing wrong with trying to make the car faster, I run my 98 Formula (10.3@136) without a filter but I am making a new filter assembly and I want to see how much it will slow the car down.

I think the car with a filter and some good air should bust off a 13.9 as long as you finesse the launch. I'm thinking that holding the motor at 2500-3000 and rolling out real fast should get a 2.1 short time.

fonsim0

What did you have in your car when you do the 14.2 at 98mph??

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ndabunka

Ummmm.... That's "tire wear", not a faster car... After 13K on these tires, there is less tread, and therefore not as sticky and therefore "easier to burn".

cvajs

some interesting perceptions you note.

the "additive" concept seems to make people believe that Honda uses some magical additive which, if kept in for 1st X miles, will make the engine more powerful or last longer. the additive, from what i can asess of it, is like a liquid hone. to date i have found no evidence what-so-ever that indicates any additive improves performance or longevity of the motor. if the additive did such wonders all motors would have it.

i'm not doubting your claims. my 04 has only 2900 miles on it, so i think i'll make a few 1/4 mile passes now, then around 10-15k i'll do some more 1/4 passes.

i think some noted that our non-dynamic v-tec makes it's move around 4300rpm

cheers

chusteveb

Yeah you could be right, I honestly can't be a good source on the subject matter simply because I haven't done my homework on it. My best friend is the service manager at Honda of Seattle and he was telling me about it, but keep in mind this is Honda and my assuming everything is the same for Acura may not be the smartest claim.

I've got almost 12k on my TL now.

cvajs

can you get any info from your friend, ask him what the additives are/do and why Acura puts it in the oil?

chusteveb

Yeah ok, I'll do that and get back to you

Pro Stock John

Our first batch of oil has extra additives for the engine break-in nothing more, nothing less.

chusteveb

Yeah I pretty much got the same answer. He told me that it was to aid in preserving the first oil batch a bit longer to allow time for the sale of the vehicle and first start ups including the break in of the motor; also the addatives are different for the I4 or V6 and different for the cast iron or alluminum blocks, etc. When I asked about it effecting performance he told me that the test vehicles get their oil changed too often to count but he didn't think the stat's on the TL were from a "first batch of oil" but maybe some mag times are (when they are simply given cars to test). Of course this was his guess.