kevinacura

I bought an acura TL 2007 for only 5 months and the battery die 2 times. first time, I brang to the dealer and it said they can't find anything wrong with my car so they just changed the new battery. This morning it happen again but I haven't bring to dealer yet cause I need to go to work. do u guys know about lemon law, I heard my friend said but I wasn't sure.
thanks

imj0257

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sure you dont leave your lights on a lot?

vinnier6

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every light in the car will go off by itself if you were to leave them on....

TL1999

i think they didn't replace your old battery...but anyhow, did they replace with an OEM battery? If thats the case then it must be a crappy one....tell the dealer to replace another one at your choosing.

ttribe

Relax...it's not the car. It's the battery(ies). My first one died in less than a year and I fully expect the second one to do the same. This is not a lemon law issue.

imj0257

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01tl4tl

Its possible that the replacement battery also had a bad cell or internal problem.
This happens with any manufactured product- some are defective.
The dealer replaces with OE parts, especially on a warranty replacement!
There may be a bad ground somewhere causing the battery to drain overnight?
you did not mention the time between last driven and batetry dead.
Has there been any work done on the stereo- changes made to stock system?
Other mods- lights- wiring changes you have made?- assuming you are original owner?
If not 1st owner- what was done to it before you?

You dont get to tell the dealer what brand of battery of your choosing,,,what world do you live in anyway? this is bizness land here!
Lemon Law is about NEW car being in the shop for 30 days with several attempts to fix and no resolution.
You had a problem- dealer did normal procedure- replace the battery- tested charging system and sent you out to try it again.
Its still not right- so back it goes. End of Story

Note to all: DO NOT jump the dead battery off another car- the alternator was not designed to recharge a dead battery, only to replace the juice actually being used as the car is driving. Doing so puts the severe hurt on the alternator
Use a Battery Charger ~

MWalsh9152

the headlights will go off by themselves.....unless you leave the key in the igniton, then they stay on even iff the ignition is off. I learned that lesson the hard way at work with my 06.Good thing I worked for a tow company. LOL

yourit

someone in the past had the same problem. I believe it has to do with the Bluetooth in the car trying to sync up with your cellphone, even though it is park in the garage.

pkarandi

To the OP: You MUST be joking about the lemon law. Now I know why people gave me so much crap when I lemon lawed a motorcycle 8 years ago. Of course, my bike had the engine blow while I was going 80 miles an hour on the highway and spewing oil all over the place. I still can't believe I didn't wreck and kill myself... bike went to the shop numerous times for an engine rebuild and the a-hole mfr still fought me tooth and nail. (FYI - we ended up settling out of court)

To hear you mention the lemon law after two dead batteries is ridiculous! Get some perspective man! People who throw the lemon law around for minor items give REAL lemon law cases a bad wrap.

Why would you "fully expect" your second battery to die in less than a year?

ttribe

Principally because of where I live - the average life for a battery in the 110+ degree weather we get here is VERY short. The second reason, is that when the dealer replaced the first one, it was with a new battery of their choosing which really isn't designed to handle the conditions here. No big deal. In reality here (in PHX), the only time there's a significant expense related to car batteries is when you buy the FIRST one...after that they die so quickly here that you never end up paying full price again. I know it sounds silly, but it's just how things are. The only part of the car that has a shorter expected life than a battery in PHX is your windshield; I think, on average, the typical PHX driver replaces one a year.

pkarandi

Thanks for the tip 01tl4tl - I did not know that about jumping a fully dead battery...

ttribe, damm dude! I had no idea that AZ sun beats up batteries like that. Is the frequent windshield replacement also 'cause of the heat? I'm guessing it's because of the quick, constant temp changes from day to night. If so, does a white car cover help at all? Shiit, even if you could extend the 1 year average to 1.5 years, it would save a shiitload of money over the life of a car!

ttribe

Nope, it's the combination of rocks (live in a desert...not much we can do about that) and large trucks on the road. Literally, about once a month I hear a loud CRACK as a small stone gets kicked up into my path on the freeway. So far so good though...I've had the car about a year and a half and haven't had to replace the windshield yet On the flipside we don't have to worry about snow or salt on the roads (and all the bad things that happen to cars from those two substances).

01tl4tl

You know- I remember that thread from some months ago- on the bluetooth staying active if your cell phone was on inside the house- and draining the battery
There must be a way to program it or all of you would have the problem

imj0257

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hmm... my phone says "disconnected form handsfreelinktm" immediately after i turn off the engine, get out and lock the car :/

lights

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your phone should still be connected with TL's bluetooth after you turn off the engine for certain period of time. it'll disconnect when you walk away far enough from your TL.

xtremmeballer

So if ur car is parked in the garage and ur inside the house most likely itll seem logical if the phone is connected considering the fact that its not to much of a distance in certain cases

imj0257

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^^ no. If I walk literally 10 feet away from my car it will disconnect.

BLACKURA_NY

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i leave my work cell phone in my house when im not at work.. ill pull up, shut the car off...

4 hours later, ill be inside, and ill notice my work cell phone still says on the outside LCd HANDSFREELINK TM

i only had a battery die once in my TL... my 06.. and it was when i was blacking out myheadlights, i let the radio run for an hour... not realizing i had the headlight switch on (engine off).. even though the lights were off the car, the battery was bumping juice to the ballasts i guess


plus.. if im not mistaken, these OEM batteries are crap

shftl

I agree that the OEM battery isn't much. I flattened mine at 30 months using the XM while I washed and waxed. Does anybody know how much current the sound system pulls in radio mode?

MWalsh9152

any amplified stereo system is gonna kill the battery alot faster than you may be used to in a stock stereo without an amplifier

BLACKURA_NY

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^ ahh very true.. even factory, these cars have an amp.... def. more battery draw

Black07TL

THIS 2007 WAS BOUGHT BACK FOR THE SAME THING... DO THE LEMON LAW, U HAVE TO BRING IT IN 3 TIMES FOR THE SAME REPAIR, THAN CALL YOUR LEMON LAW ATTORNEY GENERAL IN YOUR STATE! HERE IS THE PIC, FUK ALL THE PEOPLE SAYING NOT TO DO IT!!

aznboi2424

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There is really no need to curse everyone that doesnt agree with you. We are all here just trying to help and want to resolve this problem for the OP too, or else we wouldnt be posting and there would be no such thing as Acurazine. Feel me?

pkarandi

First of all Black07TL, I backed you up on your other thread because all your vibration issues seem like a real problem. People were giving you shiit there - some people back the mfr no matter what sometimes - I don't get it.

BUT, for you to come on here and curse at us for saying 2 dead batteries is NOT a lemon law case is ridiculous. If people invoke the lemon law at every little thing, others (like your case) will get more scrutinized because everyone thinks they are all in the same boat! How can this concept be lost on you?

TWO DEAD BATTERIES?!?!? Are you kidding me?!?!? Take it back to the dealer and have them make sure it is not your alternator or something else (I'm no mechanic) and move on... If the problem persists, then it's another story...

ggesq

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Might have been a slight oversight on your part but "black" says to pursue the LL on the battery issue

pkarandi

Yeah - that's the point I was making as well. I didn't write that statement in bold very clearly. I was getting pissy about him telling us to fukk-off because we were saying it was NOT a lemon law case.

ggesq

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my bad- looks like a slight oversight on my part

kevinacura

thank everyone for trying to help. The problem is if i do not drive my car for 2 days then the battery die. I bring my car to the dealer and they said they can't find anything wrong beside replace the new battery. 5 months, 2 battery. This is not normal. There must be something wrong with my car that cause the battery drain that quick. Hell with the lady service advisor walk out of me when i said i don't want to just replace the battery. I don't want they keep put the new battery in until my car out of guarantee.
thanks Black07TL. If my car battery die again in a couple of month and they don't do anything beside put the new battery in. I will call the lemon law lawyer.

Ryans04PrlTL

hopefully you will get his issue solved man good luck

stillhere153

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dude you are actually going to lemon law a car for a $50 battery (oem battery is cheap cheap cheap cheap)... that is the problem... I understand a lemon law for crazy vibrations and complicated problems...

but honestly... welcome to azine... swap that battery for an optima (performance minded )

I believe optima redtop will withstand the heat in phx too for the previous member discussing the horrible battery life in the dessert

stillhere153

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by the way acura oem batteries warranty is 100months

kevinacura

would anyone here please do me a favor. If you guys have a second car to drive. please don't drive your TL for 2 days or more than let me know if your car battery was dead or not.
thanks

stillhere153

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^ I made a thread about it... my days off are wednesday and thursday... a couple weeks back I parked my car on a tuesday morning... came back on thursday night... and only the lights would flicker....
here is the thread - https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172187

anx1300c

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I have a separate company car and I've occasionally gone from Sunday to Saturday without starting my car with no issues. Your problem is not normal and I don't care how "cheap" the OEM battery is. Batteries are a crap shoot anyway. Some will last six months, some six years. As others have stated, severe climate batteries will usually die the soonest. If it happens again, I would politely yet firmly demand that they replace the alternator.

spacejamz

I went on vacation a few weeks ago and my car was not started for 5 days and it did not have any problems starting up when I got back.

leedogg

The best long lasting battery is a spiral cell deep cycle battery.

To the OP, I wouldnt be surprised if you have a short somewhere. I think I read about somebody else here who had a similar issue, and it wasnt even the battery, it was the starter or alternator or something...

trancemission

hey, calm the fuck down dude.

lemon law for a battery. puleeze

mamamilk008

I had the same issue, happened twice that the battery got fully drained after the car parked outside for 3 days. First time Dealer replaced the battery, it happened again. Dealer then replaced my HFL???!! and it never happened again FOR NOW.

twigglius

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I concur... Batteries don't last for shit in this heat!