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Old 10-05-2005, 04:37 PM
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What oil do you guys use?

Well yea im ever gonna go back to the Acura at Muller's at Woodfield holy shit i paid 90 bucks for an oil change 20 for the oil change and im paying 70 for service damn and im paying 50 for at my local oil change shop... But yea it's time for my next oil change and I plan on changing it myself...Yea the all the oil would be synthetic

1. Castrol
2. Citgo
3. Havoline
4. Mobil 1
5. Pennzoil
6. Proline
7. Quaker State
8. Valvoline
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Originally Posted by CedNBHTL
Well yea im ever gonna go back to the Acura at Muller's at Woodfield holy shit i paid 90 bucks for an oil change 20 for the oil change and im paying 70 for service damn and im paying 50 for at my local oil change shop... But yea it's time for my next oil change and I plan on changing it myself...Yea the all the oil would be synthetic

1. Castrol
2. Citgo
3. Havoline
4. Mobil 1
5. Pennzoil
6. Proline
7. Quaker State
8. Valvoline
Castrol synthetic, only thing my dealer uses on my car.
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Originally Posted by CedNBHTL
Well yea im ever gonna go back to the Acura at Muller's at Woodfield holy shit i paid 90 bucks for an oil change 20 for the oil change and im paying 70 for service damn and im paying 50 for at my local oil change shop... But yea it's time for my next oil change and I plan on changing it myself...Yea the all the oil would be synthetic

1. Castrol
2. Citgo
3. Havoline
4. Mobil 1
5. Pennzoil
6. Proline
7. Quaker State
8. Valvoline
Syn:
1) Redline 5w-20
2) Amsoil XL 5w-20
3) Schaeffer's 5w-20, is a blend but often outperforms M1 5w-20 at only 3/4 of the price
4) Havoline "syn" 5w-20 (The 5w-30 version has been excellent, the 5w-20 is set to launch in about 1-2 months)

Dino:
1) Havoline 5w-20 (Note: Just saw a 12,560 mile run on the 5w-30 version of this oil, outstanding results)
2) Pennzoil 5w-20

I would not run any of these oils past the interval suggested by the MID unless oil analysis is practiced.

Mike
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Will be using M1 starting hopefully this weekend(mid is at 60 but we have 3500 miles on it.
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I'm using Mobil1 5W20 too. My MID is at 30% oil life and I have 5K miles on.
Old 10-05-2005, 06:57 PM
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Hey Michael, you don't recommend Mobil 1? Where can you buy the first 3 on your list in Central Texas? And once you choose a brand of oil, you should stick with it right?


Any benefit between using syn vs dino? I used to use the pennzoil brand all the time (and Castrol), but I have only used Mobil 1 in my TL. It's about to hit 12K and 60% on MID. Previous changes at 5K, 9K.
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Mobil 1 5w20 here... good stuff, haven't had any probs with it.
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If you want to get completely anal about oil go over to the www.bobistheoilguy.com site and join their forum.

I'm completely ruined by that site now. Gotta find out where to get me some GC (german castrol)
Old 10-05-2005, 10:50 PM
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Mobile 1 5w20 here
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Realistically, to spend all that money on Mobil 1 or a full synthetic is kinda pointless. You are giving ur car the 'best' i suppose but the engine is new or newer... it shouldn't make a dang bit of difference. If ur driving in VTEC all the time then maybe a synthetic will be best for you so you can actually go the 3K for an oil change.

What i go by is proven engineering for oil. Some oils contain more wax than others.

I like Castrol GTX. 5quart container at Walmart $8. Oil filter $4. I change every 3K miles which is plenty fine in Seattle climate. Your engine will love u just as much as if you were to spend $25 on Mobil 1.
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Mobile 1. I don't know why though.
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1st oil change I used Mobil1, since then I've done 2 more oil changes and went with Castrol Synth (more convenient and available at Wallymart in a 5qt jug)....
Old 10-06-2005, 05:35 AM
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Havoline Dino for t3h w1n!
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I have been using the havoline 5w20 dino oil, and mobil 1
oil filters, with a cost of around $20.00 an oil change.

I changed the initial fill at 2700 miles, then again at about 5000 when the mid
said the oil was at 10% (I did not reset the mid at the first oil change).

I will now go by the mid, when the alarm comes on at 10%?

In the TL, I would think synthetic is a waste of money unless you plan on
extended drains, which makes the mid useless.

You pay about 5 times more for syntetic oil, so you would need to go
5 times longer (25,000 miles) between changes to break even which is nuts...

Is synthetic going to prevent wear better at 5000 mile changes?
I would seriously doubt it, and what, you going to have the car for
15 years and 400,000 miles?
How many people keep a car that long?

In 10 years, some sporty hybrids will be out getting 70 mpg and
you will be stuck with that gas guzzling TL.....

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Castrol Syntec 5w-20
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I use Amsoil XL 5w-20.
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Mobil 1 5w30 and Mobil 1 M110 filter.
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Castrol Syntec 5w-20 because is more readily available than Mobil1.
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Originally Posted by CedNBHTL
Well yea im ever gonna go back to the Acura at Muller's at Woodfield holy shit i paid 90 bucks for an oil change 20 for the oil change and im paying 70 for service damn and im paying 50 for at my local oil change shop... But yea it's time for my next oil change and I plan on changing it myself...Yea the all the oil would be synthetic

1. Castrol
2. Citgo
3. Havoline
4. Mobil 1
5. Pennzoil
6. Proline
7. Quaker State
8. Valvoline
I use Mobil 1
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Mobil 1 5w20
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Originally Posted by CedNBHTL
What oil do you guys use?
NOT synthetic...
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Castrol GTX 5-30 or 10-30 depending on the time of year. It gets over 110 in the shade in Phoenix. Change @ >20
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does the dealer use regular oil or syn?
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does the dealer use regular oil or syn?
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Havoline 5w-20 dino; 5000 mi. OCI or less if the MID tells me so.
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Castrol synthetic...
thats what i use
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Motorcraft (Ford) 5W20 blend.
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Originally Posted by luniz97
does the dealer use regular oil or syn?
From what I know, the dealer in Plano, TX (David McDavid) uses a synthetic blend by Quaker State.
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does the dealer use regular oil or syn?
It's Ur choice!

They offer both....
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when I do mine......mobil 1, been using that for years.
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Originally Posted by jennarocks
Realistically, to spend all that money on Mobil 1 or a full synthetic is kinda pointless. You are giving ur car the 'best' i suppose but the engine is new or newer... it shouldn't make a dang bit of difference. If ur driving in VTEC all the time then maybe a synthetic will be best for you so you can actually go the 3K for an oil change.

What i go by is proven engineering for oil. Some oils contain more wax than others.

I like Castrol GTX. 5quart container at Walmart $8. Oil filter $4. I change every 3K miles which is plenty fine in Seattle climate. Your engine will love u just as much as if you were to spend $25 on Mobil 1.
I sure hope you aren't using that $4 FRAM filter when the $2 Supertech filter is better.

Castrol GTX 5w-20=doesn't particularly standout; dude get over the wax stuff. That's ancient.

Havoline 5w-20 for $7 a jug gets my vote.

PZ is also decent but Havoline gets the price advantage.

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Originally Posted by spool32
If you want to get completely anal about oil go over to the www.bobistheoilguy.com site and join their forum.

I'm completely ruined by that site now. Gotta find out where to get me some GC (german castrol)
GC 0w-30...LOL are you using Gold or Green?

I think that stuff is overrated, as much as M1 is. GC 0w-30 is SOOO thick, at 12.3cst for the Gold version and 12.3 cst for the Green version...it is way too thick IMO for a Honda/Acura application. 12.2 and 12.3 is almost a light 40wt, as anything >12.5 is considered a 40.

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I'm old fashioned. I use Castrol GTX 5-20 dino. Change the oil and factory filter every 3000 miles. Don't care what the computer says. It's every 3K.
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Originally Posted by txathlete
Hey Michael, you don't recommend Mobil 1? Where can you buy the first 3 on your list in Central Texas? And once you choose a brand of oil, you should stick with it right?


Any benefit between using syn vs dino? I used to use the pennzoil brand all the time (and Castrol), but I have only used Mobil 1 in my TL. It's about to hit 12K and 60% on MID. Previous changes at 5K, 9K.
For the Amsoil XL 5w-20, you can order from any Amsoil dealer. You should NOT have to pay more than the wholesale cost of $3.95/qt, plus shipping and tax (often comes out to about $4.75/qt). Some dealers will convince you to pay the $10 pref. membership fee before giving you the wholesale pricing, which is ridiculous as they should sell it to you at the preferred cost regardless.

Dunno about Redline. Summit Racing sells it, but Redline is usually $7-$8/qt anyway. Quite expensive, and overkill for most apps. Schaeffer’s is probably the best value in my opinion, as it gives better performance than Mobil 1 at ¾ of the cost. Where are you again in TX? What city? Maybe I can check on the location of some Schaeffer’s outlets for you.

The reason why I somewhat dislike M1 is because it does not handle insolubles, fuel (VERY common problem with Honda V6 engines that Honda denies), and dirt. It’s flashpoint drops quite rapidly due to what I mentioned above. In addition, M1 has consistently shown higher Fe, which is possible increased valvetrain wear.

People automatically assume that because an oil is a syn, it automatically performs better than an oil made with a lesser basestock. This is not necessarily true, as the overall and final chemistry of the oil is what matters. A good example of this is the Amsoil (GrpIII basestock), Schaeffer’s (only 20% PAO) and Havoline (GrpII+ base).

After seeing the recent 12.5K+ oil analysis report with Havoline 5w-30, I’m convinced that Havoline dino can go the full length suggested by the MID. In that 12.5K drain, the oil life monitor (GM’s) suggested a change at 12.5K, the maximum allowable interval. The oil showed that it could’ve gone another 2-3,000 miles.

Thus, syns such as Amsoil and RL are good for high stress applications (racing, super hard, spirited driving), but blends and low cost SM dinos such as Havoline are more than adequate for daily drivers (yes, even for ones that are occasionally driven super hard) at drains suggested by the MID.

Mike
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I sure hope you aren't using that $4 FRAM filter when the $2 Supertech filter is better.

Castrol GTX 5w-20=doesn't particularly standout; dude get over the wax stuff. That's ancient.

Havoline 5w-20 for $7 a jug gets my vote.

PZ is also decent but Havoline gets the price advantage.

Mike
Mike, ur REALLY smart.
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How Do You Guys Reset The Mid When You Do Your Own Oil Changes? I Thought The Dealer Had To Do That?
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan
GC 0w-30...LOL are you using Gold or Green?

I think that stuff is overrated, as much as M1 is. GC 0w-30 is SOOO thick, at 12.3cst for the Gold version and 12.3 cst for the Green version...it is way too thick IMO for a Honda/Acura application. 12.2 and 12.3 is almost a light 40wt, as anything >12.5 is considered a 40.

Mike

Haha, Green where available!

I'm only on 280 miles now so I have a few left to locate some. I think i'm going to swap out oil at 1000 miles and again at 2000 so i can get the floating metal out. I'll probably just use some cheap stuff with molybdenum in it.

After that, I really havent figured out yet what I plan to use. Still shopping. I guess thick isnt too bad of a thing where I live though (Phoenix, AZ) since it gets so stinkin hot here.


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