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Old 03-25-2014, 06:02 PM
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What LCA bushings is everyone using?

My lower control arm bushings are toast. Is there an aftermarket poly bushing that you all prefer? Or is OEM the best bet?
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What bushing exactly are you talking about. Most likely it's the front compliance bushing right? If so, poly cannot possibly work in this position. It's meant to act like rotating bearing surface where the inner metal sleeve rotates within a semi soft hard plastic. The idea is that poly plastic absorbs some nhv and allows a minimal amount of deflection due to suspension geometry. Our front compliance bushings do not rotate like normal bushings. Instead they roll side to side like a spherical bearing. This motion cannot possibly be re-created in poly as the poly & sleeve would instantly bind up and the plastic would split.

This is what happens to a poly bushing when there is just a hint of rotational movement. This is the front inner LCA bushing of an 90's Integra/Civic. Blew out in a years time of daily driving.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2523325


Your options are either OEM rubber:
- Harder 04-06 TL
- Softer 07-08 TL & TL-S
...or an expensive exposed spherical bearing (not good if you have salty winter).

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Doing mine next week, decided to go with the Moog LCA's.
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
What bushing exactly are you talking about. Most likely it's the front compliance bushing right? If so, poly cannot possibly work in this position. It's meant to act like rotating bearing surface where the inner metal sleeve rotates within a semi soft hard plastic. The idea is that poly plastic absorbs some nhv and allows a minimal amount of deflection due to suspension geometry. Our front compliance bushings do not rotate like normal bushings. Instead they roll side to side like a spherical bearing. This motion cannot possibly be re-created in poly as the poly & sleeve would instantly bind up and the plastic would split.

This is what happens to a poly bushing when there is just a hint of rotational movement. This is the front inner LCA bushing of an 90's Integra/Civic. Blew out in a years time of daily driving.


Your options are either OEM rubber:
- Harder 04-06 TL
- Softer 07-08 TL & TL-S
...or an expensive exposed spherical bearing (not good if you have salty winter).
Thanks for the info! What are you using?
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Mine are stock on a 05 6MT. They haven't really cracked much but the car stays in the garage most of the time. If I HAD to replace them, I would use the same OEM 04-06 stiffer rubber and use it as an excuse to buy a 20 Ton harbor Freight press. lol

Sphericals are expensive and scetchy in the longevity department. And with 4 cars, I need low-maintenance.

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I changed them on my TL and my fiance's TL. I went with oem ones.
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Mine have cracked, approx. 1/4" on both sides. Not as bad as some of the pics I have seen on here of members bushings. I figured I may as well replace them when I toss in some springs. Looks like I'll just go with OEM 04-06 bushings.

Do you think this could be the cause of highway vibration, not tracking true, and shaking while on the brakes?
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That sounds more like alignment trouble and uneven tire wear. My friends wife has a completely blown out compensator bushing on their 06 element, and the only symptoms they've noticed is a tiny bit of uneven wear on the one tire, and a clunk when going over the curb into the driveway. The clunk is the free floating arm knocking up and down against the subframe. Other than that he says the thing tracks true as ever. I could not convince him to replace the bushing.
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
What bushing exactly are you talking about. Most likely it's the front compliance bushing right? If so, poly cannot possibly work in this position. It's meant to act like rotating bearing surface where the inner metal sleeve rotates within a semi soft hard plastic. The idea is that poly plastic absorbs some nhv and allows a minimal amount of deflection due to suspension geometry. Our front compliance bushings do not rotate like normal bushings. Instead they roll side to side like a spherical bearing. This motion cannot possibly be re-created in poly as the poly & sleeve would instantly bind up and the plastic would split.

This is what happens to a poly bushing when there is just a hint of rotational movement. This is the front inner LCA bushing of an 90's Integra/Civic. Blew out in a years time of daily driving.

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2523325


Your options are either OEM rubber:
- Harder 04-06 TL
- Softer 07-08 TL & TL-S
...or an expensive exposed spherical bearing (not good if you have salty winter).
We are talking front compliance bushings, correct? And when you say "harder" do you mean something like the aluminum fast line bushings? http://www.heeltoeauto.com/fastline-...roductid=66068
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