What cars are people getting into after their TL?
#201
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Supposedly, you're better off having a car you can drive at 100 than one you have to temper yourself in and drive at 60...
percent, that is.
I just went to Ford to build a GT Premium...fuck, at the end, it costs as much as the used CTS-V I've been wanting to fuck on for a long while now. And then I pictured having to give up my TL or the S2000 and I almost started crying. Must resist the urge to owe money for moar power.
percent, that is.
I just went to Ford to build a GT Premium...fuck, at the end, it costs as much as the used CTS-V I've been wanting to fuck on for a long while now. And then I pictured having to give up my TL or the S2000 and I almost started crying. Must resist the urge to owe money for moar power.
#202
Love the BRZ, it's a great car. I just can't live with the 2.0 boxer engine, I would never be able to adjust to the 70hp difference between the TL and the BRZ.
#203
Supposedly, you're better off having a car you can drive at 100 than one you have to temper yourself in and drive at 60...
percent, that is.
I just went to Ford to build a GT Premium...fuck, at the end, it costs as much as the used CTS-V I've been wanting to fuck on for a long while now. And then I pictured having to give up my TL or the S2000 and I almost started crying. Must resist the urge to owe money for moar power.
percent, that is.
I just went to Ford to build a GT Premium...fuck, at the end, it costs as much as the used CTS-V I've been wanting to fuck on for a long while now. And then I pictured having to give up my TL or the S2000 and I almost started crying. Must resist the urge to owe money for moar power.
Or you could just trade cars with me!!!!
#204
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Horsepower isn't everything.
Hell a stock BRZ/FRS runs a 1/4 mile in about the same time as a stock 5at TL. Maybe slightly quicker than the TL.
Traps about the same too..
That car is a zippy little sporty drivers car whereas the TL is just a luxury cruiser that handles like a yacht in comparison.
#205
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Yup. I remember most fun I've ever experienced in any car was an NB turbocharged Miata putting down about 230hp & it just plastered a smile on my face
I've personally driven 991/997 911's, R8's, an F30 M3 (granted I wasn't pushing to the limit as the driver in the miata was) but the Miata was just sublime to be in. Plus the guy driving it was amazing behind the wheel
I've personally driven 991/997 911's, R8's, an F30 M3 (granted I wasn't pushing to the limit as the driver in the miata was) but the Miata was just sublime to be in. Plus the guy driving it was amazing behind the wheel
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#206
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You got to realize the BRZ is a much smaller car that weighs 800llbs less.
Horsepower isn't everything.
Hell a stock BRZ/FRS runs a 1/4 mile in about the same time as a stock 5at TL. Maybe slightly quicker than the TL.
Traps about the same too..
That car is a zippy little sporty drivers car whereas the TL is just a luxury cruiser that handles like a yacht in comparison.
Horsepower isn't everything.
Hell a stock BRZ/FRS runs a 1/4 mile in about the same time as a stock 5at TL. Maybe slightly quicker than the TL.
Traps about the same too..
That car is a zippy little sporty drivers car whereas the TL is just a luxury cruiser that handles like a yacht in comparison.
#207
You got to realize the BRZ is a much smaller car that weighs 800llbs less.
Horsepower isn't everything.
Hell a stock BRZ/FRS runs a 1/4 mile in about the same time as a stock 5at TL. Maybe slightly quicker than the TL.
Traps about the same too..
That car is a zippy little sporty drivers car whereas the TL is just a luxury cruiser that handles like a yacht in comparison.
Horsepower isn't everything.
Hell a stock BRZ/FRS runs a 1/4 mile in about the same time as a stock 5at TL. Maybe slightly quicker than the TL.
Traps about the same too..
That car is a zippy little sporty drivers car whereas the TL is just a luxury cruiser that handles like a yacht in comparison.
Lol not really talking about track times just saying accelerating around the city. I don't think too many people buy cars and just test them out on the track or drag on acurazine. Could be wrong though.
#208
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I understand that totally, but without as much hp or torque doesn't it feel different than the TL accelerating?
Lol not really talking about track times just saying accelerating around the city. I don't think too many people buy cars and just test them out on the track or drag on acurazine. Could be wrong though.
Lol not really talking about track times just saying accelerating around the city. I don't think too many people buy cars and just test them out on the track or drag on acurazine. Could be wrong though.
It has significantly less weight so it doesn't need as much power as the TL to get up and going.
#210
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Think of a bicycle. Try riding a bicycle with 150 lbs of weight attached to it + your weight. Just to get it moving from a stop will be work. Trying to accelerate to go faster while cruising at a steady speed won't be any easier. Try weaving in and out of cones lol.
Now think of the exact same bicycle that is only 5 lbs + your weight. Moving from a complete stop isn't a problem. Accelerating while at a steady speed will be easier in comparison to the heavier bicycle. Moving in and out of cones will be easier too.
I don't know if that's a good analogy but that's the only thing i can think of
Now think of the exact same bicycle that is only 5 lbs + your weight. Moving from a complete stop isn't a problem. Accelerating while at a steady speed will be easier in comparison to the heavier bicycle. Moving in and out of cones will be easier too.
I don't know if that's a good analogy but that's the only thing i can think of
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#213
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It's all relative. I would never describe the TL as a torquey car, but it's slightly better than a Civic I guess. The TL still needs to be wrung out hard to really move, as opposed to say a 335i that just needs the gas pedal tapped to move at lower speeds.
#216
Think of a bicycle. Try riding a bicycle with 150 lbs of weight attached to it + your weight. Just to get it moving from a stop will be work. Trying to accelerate to go faster while cruising at a steady speed won't be any easier. Try weaving in and out of cones lol.
Now think of the exact same bicycle that is only 5 lbs + your weight. Moving from a complete stop isn't a problem. Accelerating while at a steady speed will be easier in comparison to the heavier bicycle. Moving in and out of cones will be easier too.
I don't know if that's a good analogy but that's the only thing i can think of
Now think of the exact same bicycle that is only 5 lbs + your weight. Moving from a complete stop isn't a problem. Accelerating while at a steady speed will be easier in comparison to the heavier bicycle. Moving in and out of cones will be easier too.
I don't know if that's a good analogy but that's the only thing i can think of
#217
Team Owner
Supposedly, you're better off having a car you can drive at 100 than one you have to temper yourself in and drive at 60...
percent, that is.
I just went to Ford to build a GT Premium...fuck, at the end, it costs as much as the used CTS-V I've been wanting to fuck on for a long while now. And then I pictured having to give up my TL or the S2000 and I almost started crying. Must resist the urge to owe money for moar power.
percent, that is.
I just went to Ford to build a GT Premium...fuck, at the end, it costs as much as the used CTS-V I've been wanting to fuck on for a long while now. And then I pictured having to give up my TL or the S2000 and I almost started crying. Must resist the urge to owe money for moar power.
You're interested in moar power, but you don't want to give up the TL and s2000 and you don't want to be strapped to making payments, sooooo....
Why don't you SC the TL? I mean, it won't be putting down 400hp, but it's a decent jump in hp and torque. Plus, you already have the exhaust goods to make it more efficient. Not only will it remain reliable, but you still get to keep the 4 door goodness, you don't get trapped making payments for X number of years, and best of all, you get to hold on to your baby.
I mean, there are used SC kits floating around AZ. I'm sure you could get a kit and maybe some supporting goodies or tune all in for 4k. Hell of a lot better than 40k in payments. Just seems like a rational compromise
I dunno. Just a thought.
#218
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Arent the gains with the comptech supercharger embarrassingly low like 50whp?
A supercharger kit for the G37 will take you from 270whp to about 410whp.
But it costs about $6500 which doesn't include labor and all other necessary supporting mods. You'll easily be $10k invested when everything is all done.
A supercharger kit for the G37 will take you from 270whp to about 410whp.
But it costs about $6500 which doesn't include labor and all other necessary supporting mods. You'll easily be $10k invested when everything is all done.
#219
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Arent the gains with the comptech supercharger embarrassingly low like 50whp?
A supercharger kit for the G37 will take you from 270whp to about 410whp.
But it costs about $6500 which doesn't include labor and all other necessary supporting mods. You'll easily be $10k invested when everything is all done.
A supercharger kit for the G37 will take you from 270whp to about 410whp.
But it costs about $6500 which doesn't include labor and all other necessary supporting mods. You'll easily be $10k invested when everything is all done.
Yeah not sure if it's good idea to SC or Turbo....seems like once you really try to output some power things may start to break. Not sure how reliable SCs are but I would imagine the gains aren't very good...
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#221
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Arent the gains with the comptech supercharger embarrassingly low like 50whp?
A supercharger kit for the G37 will take you from 270whp to about 410whp.
But it costs about $6500 which doesn't include labor and all other necessary supporting mods. You'll easily be $10k invested when everything is all done.
A supercharger kit for the G37 will take you from 270whp to about 410whp.
But it costs about $6500 which doesn't include labor and all other necessary supporting mods. You'll easily be $10k invested when everything is all done.
#222
I came across this thread while in the midst of my search for a new TL after mine was totaled (see second link in OP). I'm still depressed and can't find anything close to the car I had for the price. I've looked at a few later model TLs including a pretty nice 2012 but can't justify spending an extra $10K for basically the same driving experience.
I just want my perfectly cared for 06 white car back.
I just want my perfectly cared for 06 white car back.
#223
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Adam, the thought has crossed my mind many times...but in the end, I think the S2000 would be the proper platform to boost.
And then, I remember that at $4000 I'll never see back (resale will be shit)...it'll lightly scratch an itch and probably make me regret spending the money and also not put me in my seat like I dreamt about the entire time I was waiting for it to be installed.
I don't kid myself...aftermarket FI and the headaches and cost are not in my future. If I want something faster I'll go big displacement or Factory FI that allows easy tune options.
Other than that, I just keep remembering how fast my accord felt after my civic...and how fast the RSX felt after my EP3...and how fast the TL felt after the RSX...
and then I remember that to be happy, you need to choose how you feel and I just realize that although in today's day and age neither of my cars are impressive on paper, they both drive amazingly well and have more usable power than I actually need for my daily commute and even my fuckery.
And then, I remember that at $4000 I'll never see back (resale will be shit)...it'll lightly scratch an itch and probably make me regret spending the money and also not put me in my seat like I dreamt about the entire time I was waiting for it to be installed.
I don't kid myself...aftermarket FI and the headaches and cost are not in my future. If I want something faster I'll go big displacement or Factory FI that allows easy tune options.
Other than that, I just keep remembering how fast my accord felt after my civic...and how fast the RSX felt after my EP3...and how fast the TL felt after the RSX...
and then I remember that to be happy, you need to choose how you feel and I just realize that although in today's day and age neither of my cars are impressive on paper, they both drive amazingly well and have more usable power than I actually need for my daily commute and even my fuckery.
#224
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Adam, the thought has crossed my mind many times...but in the end, I think the S2000 would be the proper platform to boost.
And then, I remember that at $4000 I'll never see back (resale will be shit)...it'll lightly scratch an itch and probably make me regret spending the money and also not put me in my seat like I dreamt about the entire time I was waiting for it to be installed.
I don't kid myself...aftermarket FI and the headaches and cost are not in my future. If I want something faster I'll go big displacement or Factory FI that allows easy tune options.
Other than that, I just keep remembering how fast my accord felt after my civic...and how fast the RSX felt after my EP3...and how fast the TL felt after the RSX...
and then I remember that to be happy, you need to choose how you feel and I just realize that although in today's day and age neither of my cars are impressive on paper, they both drive amazingly well and have more usable power than I actually need for my daily commute and even my fuckery.
And then, I remember that at $4000 I'll never see back (resale will be shit)...it'll lightly scratch an itch and probably make me regret spending the money and also not put me in my seat like I dreamt about the entire time I was waiting for it to be installed.
I don't kid myself...aftermarket FI and the headaches and cost are not in my future. If I want something faster I'll go big displacement or Factory FI that allows easy tune options.
Other than that, I just keep remembering how fast my accord felt after my civic...and how fast the RSX felt after my EP3...and how fast the TL felt after the RSX...
and then I remember that to be happy, you need to choose how you feel and I just realize that although in today's day and age neither of my cars are impressive on paper, they both drive amazingly well and have more usable power than I actually need for my daily commute and even my fuckery.
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#225
Confusing Name Guy
The Comptech charger with HBP and meth can see about 380 whp on a 6MT with a tune (see MAS's TL). Decent power with the only issue being cooling / high charge temps. All depends on how much you get the kit for - I.e, whoever picked up Noober's for like 3000$ Canadian back when he was selling it got one hell of a deal. The other nice thing with the charger (if properly tuned at least, not with the POS management Comptech provides) is boost everywhere.
Also maybe its just me, but I think the TL, even in 5AT, has plenty of low end torque for zipping around town, at least with my current setup of jpipe, exhaust and CAI. Pulley / pre cats will likely make this issue completely moot. And part of the fun of the J series to me is being able to wind it out
Also maybe its just me, but I think the TL, even in 5AT, has plenty of low end torque for zipping around town, at least with my current setup of jpipe, exhaust and CAI. Pulley / pre cats will likely make this issue completely moot. And part of the fun of the J series to me is being able to wind it out
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#226
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Yeah, well...
Marco's path of charging it, then selling it within a year or 2 proves my point. He got annoyed with me, but he ended up going the same path. I told him that I couldn't figure out if it was because it disappointed people, or because after a power adder, they felt like there was nothing else to do...but I told him that I'd noticed that most people that ended up going FI...sold the car within 6 months after that.
Marco's path of charging it, then selling it within a year or 2 proves my point. He got annoyed with me, but he ended up going the same path. I told him that I couldn't figure out if it was because it disappointed people, or because after a power adder, they felt like there was nothing else to do...but I told him that I'd noticed that most people that ended up going FI...sold the car within 6 months after that.
#227
Confusing Name Guy
Yeah, well...
Marco's path of charging it, then selling it within a year or 2 proves my point. He got annoyed with me, but he ended up going the same path. I told him that I couldn't figure out if it was because it disappointed people, or because after a power adder, they felt like there was nothing else to do...but I told him that I'd noticed that most people that ended up going FI...sold the car within 6 months after that.
Marco's path of charging it, then selling it within a year or 2 proves my point. He got annoyed with me, but he ended up going the same path. I told him that I couldn't figure out if it was because it disappointed people, or because after a power adder, they felt like there was nothing else to do...but I told him that I'd noticed that most people that ended up going FI...sold the car within 6 months after that.
#228
Burning Brakes
I replaced my wife's 07 TSX with '15 TLX v6 AWD and I regret it. The car is cheaply made, and powertrain leaves a lot to be desired - our car vibrates on the highway, the 9 speed tranny is garbage compared to a reputable 6 or 8 speed auto.
my 06 TL is due for replacement, but I will definitely not replace it with another Acura. The '15 TLX left such a bad taste in my mouth, that I am willing to all together skip Honda which is shame after owning honda products for almost 20 years.
My next car will probably be a 2-3 years old BMW 3/4 series as they still seem to "get it" when it comes to driving characteristics etc. After fiddling with all the new technology in our '15 TLX, I definitely cooled off and honestly do not give a s... about any of the new gadgets - it seems I value the driving characteristic and enjoyment over all the extra non-sense they put into the today's cars, so I think a stripper BMW with sport package is what I will look for.
my 06 TL is due for replacement, but I will definitely not replace it with another Acura. The '15 TLX left such a bad taste in my mouth, that I am willing to all together skip Honda which is shame after owning honda products for almost 20 years.
My next car will probably be a 2-3 years old BMW 3/4 series as they still seem to "get it" when it comes to driving characteristics etc. After fiddling with all the new technology in our '15 TLX, I definitely cooled off and honestly do not give a s... about any of the new gadgets - it seems I value the driving characteristic and enjoyment over all the extra non-sense they put into the today's cars, so I think a stripper BMW with sport package is what I will look for.
#230
Suzuka Master
because someone has a policy of not owning any car that older than certain time, like 3-5-10 years.
#231
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#232
Has anyone considered/driven the Regal GS? Seems like a good replacement option on paper... 6MT, Navi, stock Brembos and similar HP with greater tuning potential. Prices are pretty reasonable as well considering the car is only a few years old.
#233
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I actually like the Regal GS. It seems like it would be a fun car to drive.
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It sounds promising but other than the Recaro seats, the interior is horrible. Typical hard and gray GM plastic everywhere
#235
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An SS though..
I mean.. it's ugly AF, looks like a Malibu, but other than that..
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Dat V8.
#239
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Overpriced American junk
Joking!
Joking!