TLFourplay

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I will post more soon. I raced the S200 4 times and won every time. He got me off the line every time but once I found traction I toasted him (every time). The evo 8 was garbage. It is a 2003, he claims he didnt shift properly. I dont know, it should be running better than that.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.?fusea...oid=1434262072

http://vids.myspace.com/index.?fusea...oID=1432458832

I love the chirp into third..

stever627

videos don't work?

TLFourplay

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I dont know, they work for me... You can go into my myspace page and then go to my videos.

http://www.myspace.com/tedurik

stever627

that worked! awesome...what were your times? they weren't 9.5 like the guy said.

Final

Nice shifting, with your VSA off what did you launch at and where did your traction kick in?

berite100

sorry wanted to see the race and saw your gisele vid ... ....

CleanCL

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damn man, wats ur elevation? 9.5 is like a high 14

TLFourplay

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lol that was a vid I found on myspace LOL!! It has nothing to do with me or any women I know

TLFourplay

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Well I did have VSA off but I cant get traction for nothing in first or second. If I could get solid traction I would knock more thana second off the 1/8th time. I tired (only once) to smopke em first in that one vid and I still couldnt get traction. I tried last friday to run at 20psi with the stock tires and still couldnt get traction.. I really want to run at a 1/4 mile track.

DiZlAoSbOiSoFlY

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any pics of your car TL fourplay?

TLFourplay

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If I had floored it in first or second I would just hit redline and burn the tires. I feathered first and second and floored it into third (chirped but got 100% traction).

I did one run with VSA on, it was hilarious. The vid is great, I will post it tonight after I get off of work. I could hear each tire one after the other chirp, it was hilarious. Just imagein the left and right taking turns chirping real fast, it was so funny, the vid is good but it was even funnier driving. I ran a 9.6 with the VSA on.

TLFourplay

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DiZlAoSbOiSoFlY

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did you clear or smoke your headlights?

Sun Diego CL-S

how about some rear pics?
what tires do you have wrapping around those Inspyres? talk about traction issues. how long have you had your car?

CleanCL

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whoa, no wonder you had terrible times. look at those low profile tires.

SuperStar

Not in a TL.

I ran 9.5's prior to more modification in my old Grand Cherokee 5.9 and I still turned out 14.9's. The top end on that GC sucked ass.

9.5 is a solid 14 second pass for a TL. Still should be much quicker in a TL-S.

bkzjimmy

what side view mirrors are those?

CleanCL

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there are mathematical equations to determine 1/8th mile times to 1/4 mile times. top end of not, a 9.5 down the 1/8th will put you in a high 14 unless your car revs to like 8-10K, its pretty obvious in his videos he really had no traction and was running poor times.

rondog

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whas the ground wet in those pics? how much did you beat the S2K by? and was it modded at all? Sounded like you were bouncing off the rev limiter for a little bit in the begining, but I bet if you had a bit more tracktion , you woiuld have done alot better.

TLFourplay

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Took em apart, took out the reflectors, painted the turn signal housing piece black (rest of housing by projectors is already black) and put back together.

I will work on that this weekend, after I get her all prissied up I will do a shoot. I have Fuzion 245/35/19 W speed rated. Had the car since 23OCT, has 3339miles.

Yeah, thats what I thought too. So the next weekend (last friday) I put my stock tires back on, lowered the fronts to 20 psi (they are michelin pilot 235/45/17) and warmed em up a little and still only ran a 9.5. I got the same amount of traction.

Stock. 07+ come with blinkers in em.

Ground wasnt wet, just appeared to be cause I geuss all the burned rubber or something, was not wet though. I know that I would have done a ton better with traction. I was toying with the idea of buying two rims (some sort of really light weight wider rims) to put some sort of slicks on and put them on at the track.....

I loaded some more vids, check out the VSA active one, its funny sounding. Its like the VSA is struggling to control the beast.

reynaldo

Is it possible to put a headers on the 3.5 liter engine?

lookinco

There are no header avaliable to the 3G TL, unless you are talking about the E-shift pro cats.

Dave_B

A 9.5 1/8 mile is in the 14.7 second run range. And I'm sorry, there's no way that with better traction, he'd shed 1 second off his 1/8 mile time. An 8.5 second 1/8 mile is a low 13 second run. We all know this isn't happening in any sort of TL, NA or forced induced.

CleanCL

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eh? i'm pretty confident the new TL-S is capable of a 13.5 pass

TLFourplay

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Uh... Maybe you should do your research before you go off saying stuff you have no clue about...https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=track+faster

I gaurantee you if I had 100% traction I would defintely run a mid 8 second 1/8th.

SuperStar

So you'd be running near stock c5 autos that make 64 more hp, 100+ more torque, and weigh less than you?

The combination of power and drive train, will not allow you to run an 8.5 in the 1/8th, with a stock TL-S. Based on generic conversion, you would have to shave over .5 off of your 60 ft to even consider running your 1/8th 1 second faster.


On the other hand the guy that wants to use mathematical equations for 1/8th mile to 1/4 mile times, better be included things like gear ratio, wind resistance, humidity, barometer readings, and elevation.

I believe that a 9.5 in a TL-S should be good for a 14.6-14.8.

SuperStar

Top end or not?

I dont even have to address your post with that comment. Dont post when you dont know what you're talking about.

TLFourplay

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You have a valid point.

Here is my arguement. I tear out all through first and second, I get traction in third but I only have about 10-15 ft of track left in the 8th when I get into third gear. So if you take that into consideration and figure in if I had 100% traction in first and second, full throttle both gears through the entire RPM range. What do you think I would run? I would think it would most definitely be in the 8's.

SuperStar

The only place you have significant ground to make up is in your 60 ft. The looseness in 2nd and into 3rd is not a significant time impact. (What was your 60 ft?)

I believe that you have a car that should be a 9.0-9.2 1/8th mile car, in stock form. Which could be enough for you to knock on the door of some low low 14's or high 13's. There is no such thing as 100% traction in any car. And I certainly dont buy into this mathematical shit, far too many variables to play with that on a forum.

TLFourplay

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Well, I agree to disagree. I know that if I had some sort of slicks that I would gain a ton of traction instead of just having to feather it through first and second. Definitely putting me into the 8's. I know that there is no such thing as 100% traction, I was just speaking hypothetically. Obviously my car is not in stock trim either. What kind of car do you drive? I am starting to think that you drive a comptetitive vehicle and refuse to believe that the TL is this fast. I know that the people I race think that, I havent lost yet though. I raced a S2000, Evo8, 91 mustang GT, and an NSX. Either way I am proud of my car and I enjoy driving it, and I do know what it is capable of. I dont know what my 60ft was, this is some hick track, they dont have time slips or anything. I really want to go out to bowling green to run the 1/4. Have a nice one. Tony.

lookinco

Who is we? lol...and i think if you read the forum enough, you would know the TL is more then capable of running in the 13s. One member with supercharger and 50shot nitrous even ran a 13.12 and that's with automatic.

Dave_B

Okay. You got me. One guy that runs a 13.7 in fairly modded TLs at a Canadian track means that all TLs will do the same? The facts are most TLs on this site are stuck DEEP in the 14s. Most are in the mid 14s+.


Impossible. Your car does not have the power to run a mid 8 second pass, even with slicks. I tell you what, why don't you post your whole slips, increment by increment and your MPHs. Do you not understand how much power it takes to run a mid 8.5 second pass?

Dave_B

Read what you just stated. It took a forced inducation AND a 50 shot to get the 13.1. A 50 shot of nitrous typically adds 40whp, but a whoping 70wtq. That's a good bit of additional power. I said NA and forced induced. Not forced induced and nitrous.

TLFourplay

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Well its cool guys. I am not getting in a pissing contest with anyone. I know who I can beat and who I cant and how good my car looks doing it .

Just to me, with simple logic.. Let me re-itterate. I have to FEATHER the throttle in first and second. I shift into third for usually around the last 15 ft of track... So basically I have to feather the throttle the whole 1/8th mile. If I had slicks and a lot more traction there is NO WAY I wouldnt be able to easily get right into the 8's. It makes sense to me. But opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

CleanCL

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yea your right, even though an N/A TL 3.2 ran a 13.7, phew, i guess the 3.5 makes you slower then right?

yea i really know nothing about these motors/cars.

-01 NBP CL-S 3.5L

TLFourplay

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I dont know, the hollow cams keep it pretty light lol, good one CL

BustedJack

what is all this bashing?

TLFourplay, good run

Dave_B

Why not post your entire 1/8th mile run?

I don't doubt you have to feather the throttle a bit in 1st and some of 2nd. That's common with about every higher powered FWD car with a manual. My old Maxima was the same way. But I'm certain you won't get in the mid 8s, even on slicks. Now if you are just talking about upper 8s on slicks, then I can see it happening assuming you're willing to side step the clutch at 5000-5500rpms and can land some 1.8 60 foots.

TLFourplay

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I did. I had one of my troops film it with my sony digital camera. It cant zoom after the film has been started. Not anything quality but it gets the job done.

lookinco

I think you should read what you posted instead. You said the TL is in no way able to run 13s in the 1/4mile in any sort of TL, NA or forced induced. I find it funny how you would ignore the fact that people have proved the TL is capable of running 13s and used the argument that most TL run deep in the 14s. The car itself we all know is capable, but that doesn't mean the driver has the skills to make the perfect launch and shifts.

Also the example I gave about the nitrous is just an example showing what the TL is capable of doing. All supercharged TL are running in the 13s provided that the driver can control the traction problem.