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Old 01-03-2008, 12:53 PM
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FWIW:

Sylvania Bulb Replacement Guide for the 2007 TL/TL-S says:

7440 for the Rear Turn Signal
1157 for the Front Turn Signal

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...placementGuide


(OTOH, that's also the guide that says the 2007 Fogs are 9006, when if fact they are H8. Caveat Emptor.)
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Have you guys tried the blinkers without the resistor... ?

I like the flashing 2X as fast.

It's more attention getting that way.... being a motorcyclist, you're mentaility always seems to focus on safety and gaining the attention of "other drivers", and the rapid flashing seesm to do that.

The faster flashing seems to say:
"Hey you, I'm turning left, watch out, here I come... Here I am, Hey mo, turning left... who hoo", at least that's how I feel out on the road when I use them now.

I'm fine with it flashing faster rather than hacking those nasty heatsinks into my turn signal wiring. Now if we ever figure out the "relay mod" to fix this, I may consider that.
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Wont it eventually short something out in the long run?
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Have you guys tried the blinkers without the resistor... ?

I like the flashing 2X as fast.

It's more attention getting that way.... being a motorcyclist, you're mentaility always seems to focus on safety and gaining the attention of "other drivers", and the rapid flashing seesm to do that.

The faster flashing seems to say:
"Hey you, I'm turning left, watch out, here I come... Here I am, Hey mo, turning left... who hoo", at least that's how I feel out on the road when I use them now.

I'm fine with it flashing faster rather than hacking those nasty heatsinks into my turn signal wiring. Now if we ever figure out the "relay mod" to fix this, I may consider that.
My brain may be working a lil slow today but I almost believed you. Please tell me you're joking right?
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
Have you guys tried the blinkers without the resistor... ?

I like the flashing 2X as fast.

It's more attention getting that way.... being a motorcyclist, you're mentaility always seems to focus on safety and gaining the attention of "other drivers", and the rapid flashing seesm to do that.

The faster flashing seems to say:
"Hey you, I'm turning left, watch out, here I come... Here I am, Hey mo, turning left... who hoo", at least that's how I feel out on the road when I use them now.

I'm fine with it flashing faster rather than hacking those nasty heatsinks into my turn signal wiring. Now if we ever figure out the "relay mod" to fix this, I may consider that.
That annoys the hell outta me. Mine have been like that for a bit and even my hazards flash fast because all four of my signals are LEDs. I ordered 4 resistors yesterday so hopefully they arrive shortly.
Old 01-03-2008, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rockyfeller
My brain may be working a lil slow today but I almost believed you. Please tell me you're joking right?
Nope... It's not a big deal for me. jmbnova and I discussed this as well, he agreed... at least during that conversation, so I'm not crazy.

and I just can't seem to get passed those heatsinks... what a caveman way to compensate.

I say, let it blink fast.
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
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and I just can't seem to get passed those heatsinks... what a caveman way to compensate.

.....

Now you sound like that guy was about the TPMS Banding Strap Solution - Such a CRUUUUDE Solution!! lol
Old 01-03-2008, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat94
Now you sound like that guy was about the TPMS Banding Strap Solution - Such a CRUUUUDE Solution!! lol
Haha... JD TL-S. I hope is Civic is doing OK.

It's not so much the crudeness, but the heat concern. These things get hot... Not only that, they consume mucho power... more than the stock bulbs. That's what I don't like.
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No arguement about the energy waste.....200watts with the hazzards on!! My alternator will fry once I wire my 1000W Rockford Fosgate amp!! I have to do something about it because I doubt my 1fd capacitor will suffice!

I only use the signals when necessary and don't leave them on longer than 30 sec. I mounted the resistor onto metal well away from anything else to prevent catastrophe. The resistor is exposed to plenty of air circulation and uses the metal as well as the heatsink to dissipate heat. Wish there was another way but until someone invents one I settle for this.
Old 01-03-2008, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rockyfeller
No arguement about the energy waste.....200watts with the hazzards on!!
That's a good point too... Don't park in a delivery spot for 20 minutes and leave your hazards on. You may return to a dead battery.

I'll just let my blinker blink fast.
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This is a good point, so these will drain the juice if left on for an extended amount of time?
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what about the electronic flashers for LED signals? Instead of the resistors
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also - autolumination has:

6 OHM 50 Watt LED Load Equalizer
Adds a 25 watt load

Says 2x required per side

but...

3 OHM 50 Watt LED Load Equalizer
Adds about 50 watts of load, 1x per side

So you could get the 3 ohm / 50 watt setup and only have to install 2 in the rear ?


Edit - found this from autolumination - it says one 3 ohm / 50 watt resistor per side if you're installing front and rear LEDs, if you're doing only the front or only the rear you need one for each LED unit installed
Old 01-04-2008, 06:09 PM
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how did you mount the resistors to metal? did you have to drill holes in anything?
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Good find Timmah, but you're misreading the broken english. You need to install one at each corner. You need 2 6 ohmers front or rear if your doing front or rear only, or 4 3 ohmers if you're doing led all around.

Originally Posted by Timmahh
also - autolumination has:

6 OHM 50 Watt LED Load Equalizer
Adds a 25 watt load

Says 2x required per side

but...

3 OHM 50 Watt LED Load Equalizer
Adds about 50 watts of load, 1x per side

So you could get the 3 ohm / 50 watt setup and only have to install 2 in the rear ?


Edit - found this from autolumination - it says one 3 ohm / 50 watt resistor per side if you're installing front and rear LEDs, if you're doing only the front or only the rear you need one for each LED unit installed
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I have a friend who is a electrical engineer...I need to talk with him and see if there is a better way to do this. I hate the idea of something electrical getting hot that I "need" to make the car act normal.
Old 01-05-2008, 07:38 AM
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^ thats the way you do it..... if there was another way someone would have done it already
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what do the tail light LEDs look like?
Old 01-06-2008, 12:57 PM
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Yeah the wording is confusing about load resistors. I put 1 at each corner but I am pretty sure I could have gotten away with splicing them into both left and right sides front or rear and doing away with 2 of my 4 resistors. I'll look into it in the spring. Waste of energy!
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If you have LEDs in all 4 corners, you still need 4 resistors (depending on what ohm and all that) but you dont have to put them all in the 4 corners, you can put 4 in the back or 4 in the front (2 per side)
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Originally Posted by sunny201
If you have LEDs in all 4 corners, you still need 4 resistors (depending on what ohm and all that) but you dont have to put them all in the 4 corners, you can put 4 in the back or 4 in the front (2 per side)
If that's the case, why couldn't a person figure out how much power is consumed by the standard bulbs, minus the power used by the LEDs, then build a resistor to match the power originally consumed. This would eliminate 2 resistors that you needed to wire in.
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Originally Posted by BrianC636
If that's the case, why couldn't a person figure out how much power is consumed by the standard bulbs, minus the power used by the LEDs, then build a resistor to match the power originally consumed. This would eliminate 2 resistors that you needed to wire in.
They actually have a resistor that 3 ohm(I think) and that eliminates the need for 2 of them, but its still the same thing. I guess 4 6ohm resistors are easier to find than the 3ohms?
All I know is that I have LED signals in all 4 corners and I put in 4 resistors in the back (2 for each signal) and they work perfectly fine.
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uhhh sunny, I'm not getting what you are saying...you say you put 2 resistors per bulb? (2 per corner? 8 total for the car.) That's not necessary. You only need the resistors wired to the signal leads to give you a normal flasher rate. (1 per corner or 4 for the entire car.)

If you had a car like say a BMW which has the additional problem of giving you "bulb burned out" warnings on your OBC then you'd have to wire in an additional resistor to the parking light as well. Then you would need 2 resistors per bulb (8 total on the car)

I am trying to say that I think you may only need 2 resistors for the whole car. 2 lights could actually share a resistor. Someone please enlighten me about how the math adds up theoretically as I'm not good with that stuff. I'm sure someone will know if it is possible or not. I don't care what autolumination says. They just wanna sell more resistors. Brian is right. I think it would be easy enough to build (and cost less than $15x4 to make) 1 resistor for the whole car.
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Originally Posted by rockyfeller
uhhh sunny, I'm not getting what you are saying...you say you put 2 resistors per bulb? (2 per corner? 8 total for the car.) That's not necessary. You only need the resistors wired to the signal leads to give you a normal flasher rate. (1 per corner or 4 for the entire car.)

If you had a car like say a BMW which has the additional problem of giving you "bulb burned out" warnings on your OBC then you'd have to wire in an additional resistor to the parking light as well. Then you would need 2 resistors per bulb (8 total on the car)

I am trying to say that I think you may only need 2 resistors for the whole car. 2 lights could actually share a resistor. Someone please enlighten me about how the math adds up theoretically as I'm not good with that stuff. I'm sure someone will know if it is possible or not. I don't care what autolumination says. They just wanna sell more resistors. Brian is right. I think it would be easy enough to build (and cost less than $15x4 to make) 1 resistor for the whole car.
No im talking about 4 resistors total, and I have 2 per bulb in the back, none in the front. Like you said there has to be a more cost and energy efficient way of doing this.
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