Turanza LS-Z Tires (1,000 Mile Update)
04-18-2004, 09:19 AM
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Turanza LS-Z Tires (1,000 Mile Update)
As requested, here is my review of the Turanza LS-Z after having driven them for about 1,000 miles.
I decided to replaced my "original" Turanza EL 42 tires on my own, and chose the Turanza LS-Z tires over the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S due to the "theoretical" smoother/quieter ride of the LS-Z's.
Pluses
- Very quite ride (unless you are on very coarse concrete pavement, you do not hear the tires at all).
- Smooth ride (I do not feel every single pavement imperfection anymore). Don't worry, the TL still handles like a TL and not a Lincoln.
- No vibration (except for when the engine is struggling on 5th gear and low RPM at around 1,500 RPM)
- No apparent worsening of handling
- Very good performance on rain. You will need to push it very hard to make them "unglue" from the pavement.
- Car does not change behavior when pavement changes, as it did with the EL 42's.
- I do not need to keep on correcting steering, as I had to do with the EL 42's.
- Due to lower noise and vibration and increased sense of security, you will drive faster, without noticing it.
- I drove a newer TL with the new EL 42's, and the LS-Z's are better (if you like smoother/quieter).
Minuses
- Expensive. They go for $217 at tirerack. I paid a total of about $1K, including mounting, balancing and taxes. I went to a local Firestone dealer and had them price match tirerack.
- I ended up giving my money to Bridgestone, who, through Acura, sold me a crappy tire in the first place.
- Somebody is this forum has observed flatspotting with these tires, but it has been too warm for flatspotting.
- Given that the tire vibrations and noise are gone, the poor performance and behavior of the TL at 1500 RPM/55 MPH is actually, to some extent, more noticeable. It is now more obvious when the engine downshifts. When cruising on the road in the 40-60 MPH range, I actually have been using manual (I have an AT).
Bottom Line
Not happy with having had to spend $1K on top of $34K, but very happy with the end result.
I just wished Acura would adjust their AT logic and increase the RPM threshold where the TL shifts from 4th to 5th gear.
I decided to replaced my "original" Turanza EL 42 tires on my own, and chose the Turanza LS-Z tires over the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S due to the "theoretical" smoother/quieter ride of the LS-Z's.
Pluses
- Very quite ride (unless you are on very coarse concrete pavement, you do not hear the tires at all).
- Smooth ride (I do not feel every single pavement imperfection anymore). Don't worry, the TL still handles like a TL and not a Lincoln.
- No vibration (except for when the engine is struggling on 5th gear and low RPM at around 1,500 RPM)
- No apparent worsening of handling
- Very good performance on rain. You will need to push it very hard to make them "unglue" from the pavement.
- Car does not change behavior when pavement changes, as it did with the EL 42's.
- I do not need to keep on correcting steering, as I had to do with the EL 42's.
- Due to lower noise and vibration and increased sense of security, you will drive faster, without noticing it.
- I drove a newer TL with the new EL 42's, and the LS-Z's are better (if you like smoother/quieter).
Minuses
- Expensive. They go for $217 at tirerack. I paid a total of about $1K, including mounting, balancing and taxes. I went to a local Firestone dealer and had them price match tirerack.
- I ended up giving my money to Bridgestone, who, through Acura, sold me a crappy tire in the first place.
- Somebody is this forum has observed flatspotting with these tires, but it has been too warm for flatspotting.
- Given that the tire vibrations and noise are gone, the poor performance and behavior of the TL at 1500 RPM/55 MPH is actually, to some extent, more noticeable. It is now more obvious when the engine downshifts. When cruising on the road in the 40-60 MPH range, I actually have been using manual (I have an AT).
Bottom Line
Not happy with having had to spend $1K on top of $34K, but very happy with the end result.
I just wished Acura would adjust their AT logic and increase the RPM threshold where the TL shifts from 4th to 5th gear.
04-18-2004, 09:42 AM
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Thanks for the review, I have to decide soon what I want to upgrade to and was looking at the LS-Z's or the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S.
Did you try to sell the EL-42's back to the Firestone dealer ?
Did you try to sell the EL-42's back to the Firestone dealer ?
04-18-2004, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CrappyTires
As requested, here is my review of the Turanza LS-Z after having driven them for about 1,000 miles.
I decided to replaced my "original" Turanza EL 42 tires on my own, and chose the Turanza LS-Z tires over the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S due to the "theoretical" smoother/quieter ride of the LS-Z's.
Pluses
- Very quite ride (unless you are on very coarse concrete pavement, you do not hear the tires at all).
- Smooth ride (I do not feel every single pavement imperfection anymore). Don't worry, the TL still handles like a TL and not a Lincoln.
- No vibration (except for when the engine is struggling on 5th gear and low RPM at around 1,500 RPM)
- No apparent worsening of handling
- Very good performance on rain. You will need to push it very hard to make them "unglue" from the pavement.
- Car does not change behavior when pavement changes, as it did with the EL 42's.
- I do not need to keep on correcting steering, as I had to do with the EL 42's.
- Due to lower noise and vibration and increased sense of security, you will drive faster, without noticing it.
- I drove a newer TL with the new EL 42's, and the LS-Z's are better (if you like smoother/quieter).
Minuses
- Expensive. They go for $217 at tirerack. I paid a total of about $1K, including mounting, balancing and taxes. I went to a local Firestone dealer and had them price match tirerack.
- I ended up giving my money to Bridgestone, who, through Acura, sold me a crappy tire in the first place.
- Somebody is this forum has observed flatspotting with these tires, but it has been too warm for flatspotting.
- Given that the tire vibrations and noise are gone, the poor performance and behavior of the TL at 1500 RPM/55 MPH is actually, to some extent, more noticeable. It is now more obvious when the engine downshifts. When cruising on the road in the 40-60 MPH range, I actually have been using manual (I have an AT).
Bottom Line
Not happy with having had to spend $1K on top of $34K, but very happy with the end result.
I just wished Acura would adjust their AT logic and increase the RPM threshold where the TL shifts from 4th to 5th gear.
I decided to replaced my "original" Turanza EL 42 tires on my own, and chose the Turanza LS-Z tires over the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S due to the "theoretical" smoother/quieter ride of the LS-Z's.
Pluses
- Very quite ride (unless you are on very coarse concrete pavement, you do not hear the tires at all).
- Smooth ride (I do not feel every single pavement imperfection anymore). Don't worry, the TL still handles like a TL and not a Lincoln.
- No vibration (except for when the engine is struggling on 5th gear and low RPM at around 1,500 RPM)
- No apparent worsening of handling
- Very good performance on rain. You will need to push it very hard to make them "unglue" from the pavement.
- Car does not change behavior when pavement changes, as it did with the EL 42's.
- I do not need to keep on correcting steering, as I had to do with the EL 42's.
- Due to lower noise and vibration and increased sense of security, you will drive faster, without noticing it.
- I drove a newer TL with the new EL 42's, and the LS-Z's are better (if you like smoother/quieter).
Minuses
- Expensive. They go for $217 at tirerack. I paid a total of about $1K, including mounting, balancing and taxes. I went to a local Firestone dealer and had them price match tirerack.
- I ended up giving my money to Bridgestone, who, through Acura, sold me a crappy tire in the first place.
- Somebody is this forum has observed flatspotting with these tires, but it has been too warm for flatspotting.
- Given that the tire vibrations and noise are gone, the poor performance and behavior of the TL at 1500 RPM/55 MPH is actually, to some extent, more noticeable. It is now more obvious when the engine downshifts. When cruising on the road in the 40-60 MPH range, I actually have been using manual (I have an AT).
Bottom Line
Not happy with having had to spend $1K on top of $34K, but very happy with the end result.
I just wished Acura would adjust their AT logic and increase the RPM threshold where the TL shifts from 4th to 5th gear.
04-18-2004, 11:55 AM
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Thanks for the updates on the LS-Z's... I'm have the new LS-Z's on order and should be installed this week. I first had the old EL42's and had them replaced with the new EL42's. The new ones may not have flatspotted as bad but that may have been because of warmer temps though, but had vibration's at different speeds felt in the steering with new ones... Tried the Bridgestone route, contacted the Bridgestone district manager for my area, (found on the BS website), he made me an appt. at a Firestone company store. They determined the tires had too much movement on the balancer due to low spots in the tires. (funny they can determine this in a few mins. but the Acura dealer installed the tires anyway) I had around fifty grams of weight on one tire, which shows you that the tire is probably junk. The manager at Firestone said a bunch of 'dead weight'. They checked two tires which were bad and I mentioned the LS-Z's, the manager told the service guy not not to even worry about checking the back two tires and ordered me four new LS-Z's for free. Which are suppose to be a lot better tire. Great customer service all around, hopefully the new tires will match the service I got!
04-18-2004, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dheel
Thanks for the updates on the LS-Z's... I'm have the new LS-Z's on order and should be installed this week. I first had the old EL42's and had them replaced with the new EL42's. The new ones may not have flatspotted as bad but that may have been because of warmer temps though, but had vibration's at different speeds felt in the steering with new ones... Tried the Bridgestone route, contacted the Bridgestone district manager for my area, (found on the BS website), he made me an appt. at a Firestone company store. They determined the tires had too much movement on the balancer due to low spots in the tires. (funny they can determine this in a few mins. but the Acura dealer installed the tires anyway) I had around fifty grams of weight on one tire, which shows you that the tire is probably junk. The manager at Firestone said a bunch of 'dead weight'. They checked two tires which were bad and I mentioned the LS-Z's, the manager told the service guy not not to even worry about checking the back two tires and ordered me four new LS-Z's for free. Which are suppose to be a lot better tire. Great customer service all around, hopefully the new tires will match the service I got!
Also Firestone dealer manager said that they checked with Bridgestone and there isn't any difference with the new and old EL42's. Someone just giving everyone a line, either BS or Acura?
04-18-2004, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dheel
Thanks for the updates on the LS-Z's... I'm have the new LS-Z's on order and should be installed this week. I first had the old EL42's and had them replaced with the new EL42's. ........................ Great customer service all around, hopefully the new tires will match the service I got!
04-18-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CrappyTires
As requested, here is my review of the Turanza LS-Z after having driven them for about 1,000 miles.
I decided to replaced my "original" Turanza EL 42 tires on my own, and chose the Turanza LS-Z tires over the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S due to the "theoretical" smoother/quieter ride of the LS-Z's.
Pluses
- Very quite ride (unless you are on very coarse concrete pavement, you do not hear the tires at all).
- Smooth ride (I do not feel every single pavement imperfection anymore). Don't worry, the TL still handles like a TL and not a Lincoln.
- No vibration (except for when the engine is struggling on 5th gear and low RPM at around 1,500 RPM)
- No apparent worsening of handling
- Very good performance on rain. You will need to push it very hard to make them "unglue" from the pavement.
- Car does not change behavior when pavement changes, as it did with the EL 42's.
- I do not need to keep on correcting steering, as I had to do with the EL 42's.
- Due to lower noise and vibration and increased sense of security, you will drive faster, without noticing it.
- I drove a newer TL with the new EL 42's, and the LS-Z's are better (if you like smoother/quieter).
Minuses
- Expensive. They go for $217 at tirerack. I paid a total of about $1K, including mounting, balancing and taxes. I went to a local Firestone dealer and had them price match tirerack.
- I ended up giving my money to Bridgestone, who, through Acura, sold me a crappy tire in the first place.
- Somebody is this forum has observed flatspotting with these tires, but it has been too warm for flatspotting.
- Given that the tire vibrations and noise are gone, the poor performance and behavior of the TL at 1500 RPM/55 MPH is actually, to some extent, more noticeable. It is now more obvious when the engine downshifts. When cruising on the road in the 40-60 MPH range, I actually have been using manual (I have an AT).
Bottom Line
Not happy with having had to spend $1K on top of $34K, but very happy with the end result.
I just wished Acura would adjust their AT logic and increase the RPM threshold where the TL shifts from 4th to 5th gear.
I decided to replaced my "original" Turanza EL 42 tires on my own, and chose the Turanza LS-Z tires over the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S due to the "theoretical" smoother/quieter ride of the LS-Z's.
Pluses
- Very quite ride (unless you are on very coarse concrete pavement, you do not hear the tires at all).
- Smooth ride (I do not feel every single pavement imperfection anymore). Don't worry, the TL still handles like a TL and not a Lincoln.
- No vibration (except for when the engine is struggling on 5th gear and low RPM at around 1,500 RPM)
- No apparent worsening of handling
- Very good performance on rain. You will need to push it very hard to make them "unglue" from the pavement.
- Car does not change behavior when pavement changes, as it did with the EL 42's.
- I do not need to keep on correcting steering, as I had to do with the EL 42's.
- Due to lower noise and vibration and increased sense of security, you will drive faster, without noticing it.
- I drove a newer TL with the new EL 42's, and the LS-Z's are better (if you like smoother/quieter).
Minuses
- Expensive. They go for $217 at tirerack. I paid a total of about $1K, including mounting, balancing and taxes. I went to a local Firestone dealer and had them price match tirerack.
- I ended up giving my money to Bridgestone, who, through Acura, sold me a crappy tire in the first place.
- Somebody is this forum has observed flatspotting with these tires, but it has been too warm for flatspotting.
- Given that the tire vibrations and noise are gone, the poor performance and behavior of the TL at 1500 RPM/55 MPH is actually, to some extent, more noticeable. It is now more obvious when the engine downshifts. When cruising on the road in the 40-60 MPH range, I actually have been using manual (I have an AT).
Bottom Line
Not happy with having had to spend $1K on top of $34K, but very happy with the end result.
I just wished Acura would adjust their AT logic and increase the RPM threshold where the TL shifts from 4th to 5th gear.
Thanks. This post makes me put this tire into my shopping list again for consideration.
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