Top speed for a TL

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Oct 13, 2005 | 07:47 AM
  #41  
Quote: Fine, a FULL SPOILER SET UP. The fact of the matter is with supercharging, NOS, Nitro, re-gearing, and some other goodies, probably tallying of 50-60K could bring a TL to over 200 on a strip. I say that engine would easily make over 1k horse power if rebuilt correctly, and I think the TLs drag factor is not so bad that it couldnt be overcome in the 200 mph department.

Do you talk just to hear youreslf talk? I swear the shit that comes out of your mouth on a regular basis...........Oh where do I begin? I think you are an attention whore.

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Oct 13, 2005 | 07:51 AM
  #42  
Quote: It cut the gas off when I hit 151 mph (according to the speedo).
Same here, I've done it about a dozen times in my '03CL-S6 w/about 1000rpm left in 5th & all of 6th!
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Oct 13, 2005 | 11:00 AM
  #43  
Seems to me your the attention whore, at least I was giving input to this thread, you just came here to post some pic and insult me, its called PMing buddy, dont need to ruin a whole thread.

When do you guys expect, if at all, that some company will come out with a chip to remove or top speed limiter? I would also like the option of keeping vtec on all the time(it would be easy to stick a bypass switch in).
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Oct 13, 2005 | 11:12 AM
  #44  
Quote: I would also like the option of keeping vtec on all the time(it would be easy to stick a bypass switch in).
Here's an article on vtec :How Stuff Works - VTEC

You DO NOT want to keep it on all the time. Your performance at low rpm's would go dwn the toilet.

There are a ton of websites on the internet which explain how different cam profiles affect performance at different ranges (low, middle, high). These will help you understand why vtec is set to kick in where it does. You really need to understand cams (profiles) and vtec to understand why it kicks in when it does, and why you wouldn't necessarily want it to kick in earlier.

BTW - The link above is not very technical, but should get you started..
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Oct 13, 2005 | 11:19 AM
  #45  
Quote: Seems to me your the attention whore, at least I was giving input to this thread, you just came here to post some pic and insult me, its called PMing buddy, dont need to ruin a whole thread.

When do you guys expect, if at all, that some company will come out with a chip to remove or top speed limiter? I would also like the option of keeping vtec on all the time(it would be easy to stick a bypass switch in).

Ok Let me lay it down for you. You post in almost every thread. Most of the time with some of the dumbest shit I have ever read. I post when I have something constructive to say or to help out. If I can add no input or if someone has already given the answer I normally click on the next thread. You however post no matter what. That's the difference between people that add to the board and contribute with actual knowledge and make good debates versus the stupid shit you normally end up typing. You post just to post which is the reason your post count is almost 2k and mine is still just below 600. So far I think I have only read 1 thing that you may have even been on point with. But with all the other shit you normally post I forgot what the hell that was. You are just a rice boy getting ready to break outta your shell.

Oh and the reason I posted this here is because it needs to be said to you in the forums. I know I am far from the only person that feels this way.

BTW it's your DADDY's car not YOURS. Keeping Vtec on all the time does nothing good for the engine nor does it give the car more HP. Also, they do make Vtec controllers they are called VAFC's or even Fields Vtec controllers. So buy one put it on your Daddy's car set Vtec for 2k RPM's and blow the engine. Do you even know how Vtec works. OMG why am I even wasting my time.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 11:56 AM
  #46  
Quote: hahaha.... ANyhoots, max i took minez is 130, felt pretty crazy... but felt like it had alot more... Let up cuss it was late at night and I didnt want a cop to pop out from no were...

Same here..130 mph.. going South on the 71 Fwy. (Usually Light traffic there)
but worried about cops, so had to let up.

I think it could do more easily...
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Oct 13, 2005 | 11:59 AM
  #47  
Wow, she's got a great ass.
I would definitely give her all my attention!!


Quote: Do you talk just to hear youreslf talk? I swear the shit that comes out of your mouth on a regular basis...........Oh where do I begin? I think you are an attention whore.


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Oct 13, 2005 | 12:28 PM
  #48  
I don't believe him either but the gearing for a stock R1 would come close. Most magazines have the R1 limited by aerodynamics to ~185MPH.

R1 redline 13800RPM
190/50-17 tire
6th gear 33/26
Engine/transmission gear 65/43
chain spockets 45/17

13800 * 26/33 * 43/65 * 17/45 = 2717 RPM rear tire

Rear tire diameter = (((190*0.5)*2)/25.4)+17 = 24.48"
Rear tire rotation length = 24.48*Pi/12=6.41'

Distance per minute in 6th gear at 13800
= 2717*6.41'=17413 ft/minute
17413/5280 = 3.30 mile/minute = 198MPH

Assuming the tire info for size which can be off.

KilroyR1 is quite correct that dropping the front sprocket would reduce the top speed.

Fortunately my stock Honda 500 Interceptor redlines at 130MPH.

Quote: SORRY TO JUMP OT...

1 tooth what in the front (up or down)? Without a turbo, you have no chance of approaching 200 on an R1. A stock R1 hits the limiter at 172 in 6th gear with a new tire. You probably went down one tooth on the front, so your top speed would be 161 mph. If, by chance, you went up on the front sprocket, the top speed would be 183. To gear for 200, you would have to go up 2 on the front and down 2 on the rear (giving a top speed of 203 at the limiter). Do you even know the stock gearing?

Even with a full system, pc and k&n, a 2003 R1 makes no more than 150 rwhp (on an optimistic Dynojet dynomameter). Less than any of the current liter bikes that do not approach 200 mph with better aerodynamics. I will conceed that most motorcycle speedometers read wildly optimisticly (usually 9% to 11%); however, they ALL have a 1 as the third digit.

Come back to reality my friend, and all is forgiven.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 12:33 PM
  #49  
Hey my mistake in the above thread.

He said a 2003 R1, I was assuming a 2004+ R1 which redline at a higher 13800RPM.

In that case KilroyR1 is correct and I need to get back to my job and actually accomplish something today.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 12:38 PM
  #50  
Quote: ...I would also like the option of keeping vtec on all the time(it would be easy to stick a bypass switch in).
Locking the VTEC on would pretty much be the same thing as removing it and setting the timing to a fixed value. Locking anything "variable" makes it "not variable" any more. It's not like a nitrous boost or something.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 12:38 PM
  #51  
Quote: Fortunately my stock Honda 500 Interceptor redlines at 130MPH.
Since this turned into a Mototrcycle Thread.

I am thinking of buying a 2002 Yamaha YZF-R1 Blue.

Any opinions? Good bike or not?
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Oct 13, 2005 | 12:52 PM
  #52  
I went up 1 tooth in the front. In stock form the bike would do 187MPH and I know mine did 200. I dont know how accurate the speedometer is but I kept on it until it said 207. I think the difference would be 6 on the speedo.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 12:57 PM
  #53  
governer was removed and car hit 160+ dunno what the exact speed was... but was on a strip of I-84 that is 20 miles long and straight in the middle of the night..... didnt do any lane changing and didnt run it for long... thats the fastest ive ever been in a car... was very exciting!
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Oct 13, 2005 | 01:09 PM
  #54  
Quote: governer was removed and car hit 160+ dunno what the exact speed was... but was on a strip of I-84 that is 20 miles long and straight in the middle of the night..... didnt do any lane changing and didnt run it for long... thats the fastest ive ever been in a car... was very exciting!
How did you remove the governor? I thought it was part of the ECU's code.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 01:37 PM
  #55  
Quote: Since this turned into a Mototrcycle Thread.

I am thinking of buying a 2002 Yamaha YZF-R1 Blue.

Any opinions? Good bike or not?
Awesome bike, you will be very happy with it (even if it won't do 200 mph). The Fuel Injection if perfect, the power is awesome, and the handling is great. My only addition would be HH+ sintered brake pads.

Don
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Oct 13, 2005 | 01:56 PM
  #56  
Sorry, let me rephrase that, with our sohc could we get any benefit out of using vtec during hard acceleration like those ivtec setups, or is that only good for dohc setups
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Oct 13, 2005 | 05:11 PM
  #57  
Quote: Sorry, let me rephrase that, with our sohc could we get any benefit out of using vtec during hard acceleration like those ivtec setups, or is that only good for dohc setups
Variable valve control works independently of the number of camshafts.
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Oct 13, 2005 | 05:50 PM
  #58  
Quote: Ok Let me lay it down for you. You post in almost every thread. Most of the time with some of the dumbest shit I have ever read. I post when I have something constructive to say or to help out. If I can add no input or if someone has already given the answer I normally click on the next thread. You however post no matter what. That's the difference between people that add to the board and contribute with actual knowledge and make good debates versus the stupid shit you normally end up typing. You post just to post which is the reason your post count is almost 2k and mine is still just below 600. So far I think I have only read 1 thing that you may have even been on point with. But with all the other shit you normally post I forgot what the hell that was. You are just a rice boy getting ready to break outta your shell.

Oh and the reason I posted this here is because it needs to be said to you in the forums. I know I am far from the only person that feels this way.

BTW it's your DADDY's car not YOURS. Keeping Vtec on all the time does nothing good for the engine nor does it give the car more HP. Also, they do make Vtec controllers they are called VAFC's or even Fields Vtec controllers. So buy one put it on your Daddy's car set Vtec for 2k RPM's and blow the engine. Do you even know how Vtec works. OMG why am I even wasting my time.

that was very well said bro.......
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Oct 13, 2005 | 05:50 PM
  #59  
why would anybody in there right mind want to take the TL that fast anyway. Give the car to someone who will appreciate it more and go see how fast a Kia will go.....
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Oct 13, 2005 | 05:54 PM
  #60  
Quote: why would anybody in there right mind want to take the TL that fast anyway. Give the car to someone who will appreciate it more and go see how fast a Kia will go.....
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Oct 13, 2005 | 07:36 PM
  #61  
Quote: Same here..130 mph.. going South on the 71 Fwy. (Usually Light traffic there)
but worried about cops, so had to let up.

I think it could do more easily...
I usually just get to 130 and let off because then my brain kicks in and says COPS!! TICKET!! JAIL!! TL GO BYE BYE and the other person usually lets off by then except for a recent encounter with a G35 coupe but we stopped because of up coming red light...twice.
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Oct 14, 2005 | 11:16 AM
  #62  
Quote: Sorry, let me rephrase that, with our sohc could we get any benefit out of using vtec during hard acceleration like those ivtec setups, or is that only good for dohc setups
How about when you become old enough to afford your own TL (or even to obtain a drivers license for that matter), you post your opinions.. JDM is right on this one..
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Oct 14, 2005 | 11:47 AM
  #63  
Quote: How about when you become old enough to afford your own TL (or even to obtain a drivers license for that matter), you post your opinions.. JDM is right on this one..

you guys are killing me...laughing out loud at work...coworkers think im crazy!!!
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Oct 18, 2006 | 01:07 AM
  #64  
Cut the guy some slack! So he comes up with some silly crap, you dont have to read it!.............and its not like we were not 16 once. And, thank god, back then we did not have the ability to broadcast our thoughts to the masses like these forums allow. cuz I woulda been coming up with some silly crap too. The way I see it is as long as he is posting here he isnt on the road thrashing daddys TL, and he is stayin out of trouble.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 01:15 AM
  #65  
Not any long streched out road in Newyork i found.... but i tried to take the car to 140MPH on JonesBeach road. Its not straight, a sliiigght curve is there.... but my 2002 TL-P was as smooth as any TL should be.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 02:06 AM
  #66  
Quote: Cut the guy some slack! So he comes up with some silly crap, you dont have to read it!.............and its not like we were not 16 once. And, thank god, back then we did not have the ability to broadcast our thoughts to the masses like these forums allow. cuz I woulda been coming up with some silly crap too. The way I see it is as long as he is posting here he isnt on the road thrashing daddys TL, and he is stayin out of trouble.
you are about a year late on the response there buddy

and in response to this thread, i hit about 235mph in my TL, my penis is 18 inches long and i can pee about 12 yards away
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Oct 18, 2006 | 04:31 AM
  #67  
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120~130m (200km)
My car only around 6000km....
I will try faster in the future~


2006 Dynamic w/Nav
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Oct 18, 2006 | 04:56 AM
  #68  
Quote: you are about a year late on the response there buddy

and in response to this thread, i hit about 235mph in my TL, my penis is 18 inches long and i can pee about 12 yards away

way to start some shit there buddy......
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Oct 18, 2006 | 07:00 AM
  #69  
My 04' 6m/t Has Seen 155mph Or So. Still Had Plenty Gear In 5th, Just Decided To Put In 6th For Whatever Reason. Still Havent Topped It Out Yet.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 08:03 AM
  #70  
dont you lose your license on the spot if you get clocked doing anything over 35+ ontop of the speed limit? i mean they take your butt to jail.
i have friends who had their licenses ripped infront of them.
so the better question is whats the fastest you been clocked by a cop and got pulled over and what happened?
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Oct 18, 2006 | 09:31 AM
  #71  
Quote: governer was removed and car hit 160+ dunno what the exact speed was... but was on a strip of I-84 that is 20 miles long and straight in the middle of the night..... didnt do any lane changing and didnt run it for long... thats the fastest ive ever been in a car... was very exciting!
Where is I-84 straight? The only place I can think of would be coming from MA toward Hartford, where it's also pretty much *down hill* too. But, that stretch of road certainly isn't straight for 20 miles. Still interesting, tho...

I'd never take my chances there with out-of-state plates on my car....
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Oct 18, 2006 | 10:00 AM
  #72  
Quote: dont you lose your license on the spot if you get clocked doing anything over 35+ ontop of the speed limit? i mean they take your butt to jail.
i have friends who had their licenses ripped infront of them.
so the better question is whats the fastest you been clocked by a cop and got pulled over and what happened?

I'm not sure about the losing your license on the spot, although I think it's merited. I also think a good ass-kicking on the side of the road right in front of God and everyone is merited as well.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 10:10 AM
  #73  
Quote: I'm not sure about the losing your license on the spot, although I think it's merited. I also think a good ass-kicking on the side of the road right in front of God and everyone is merited as well.
had friends who did 2 pushups for every mile over the speed limit. he had to do 80 in the side of the road while it was snowing. thank god the cop let one of his friends help.
and he was slowing down to exit that is why he got clocked at that speed.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 10:24 AM
  #74  
Quote: I went up 1 tooth in the front. In stock form the bike would do 187MPH and I know mine did 200. I dont know how accurate the speedometer is but I kept on it until it said 207. I think the difference would be 6 on the speedo.
I had an 03' R1 up one tooth on the counter, PCIII USB, Hindle full exhaust, 520 X-ring chain conversion and it would not do 200mph, no way. Generally motorcycle speedos are about 10-13% off from the factory. I now have a 2006 GSXR 1000 which will spank my old R1 and it won't do 200. I haven't tried it but my friend has (same bike). It is federally mandated that these bikes don't go over 180 something mph.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 11:08 AM
  #75  
most i've ever gone is like 80 mph.... hehe u guys are nuts, there are way too many cops where i live. with my luck, i'd get busted. not worth that ticket!
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Oct 18, 2006 | 11:26 AM
  #76  
I was at a honest 155mph in my corvette on the front straight at Road America, but never hit the top speed. Tl....only highway speeds so far.

Couple things to remember- First speedo indicated speed and actual ground speed are usually different. Especially so at high speed. GPS speedo functions are usually quite a bit more accurate.

2nd 200mph is pretty firgging hard to hit. 500-600 hp as a mininum for a car to reach it. You have to remember air resistance increases with the square of velocity.

And 3- hell, a neon recently hit like 224mph on the salt flats. So I guess its possible, but you're not going to be talking about a streetable car at that point.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 11:30 AM
  #77  
Quote: most i've ever gone is like 80 mph.... hehe u guys are nuts, there are way too many cops where i live. with my luck, i'd get busted. not worth that ticket!
Remember to stay in the right lane please, grandpa.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 11:32 AM
  #78  
I know this is completly off topic but I was driving back from San Francisco and me and my friend came across "baby Lambo" I forgot the model name was but that what we call the entry level Lambo. Anyways I was cruzing on the highway at about 65 mph when we saw the baby Lambo weaving thru traffic. My friend wanted to get a better look at it and told me to keep up with it. So I floored it and could not keep up with it. Before you know it was 5 car leanths ahead of me and I was pulling 120. This all happaned with in a minute ( fastest ive ever been in the TL, but Ive pulled about 130 in my 94 Accord =D ). I was like in aww.... I wish I had a baby Lambo =(
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Oct 18, 2006 | 11:32 AM
  #79  
Just a reminder - whether these 155'ers are lying or not, don't attempt at this with stock rubbers... neither the EL42's nor the MXM4's are suitable for a stunt like this.
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Oct 18, 2006 | 01:35 PM
  #80  
You guys are nuts . Despite the cops, you wouldn't want to lose it at 150. There wouldn't be much left of you or the car.
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