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Old 07-31-2013 | 09:01 PM
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as troung stated above; the base 6mt puts down the same amount of power as the automatic type-s.

they both put down about 230 horses with the base 6mt being the lighter of the two.
the base 6mt spanks the auto type-s ALL DAY
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Old 07-31-2013 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by truonghthe
if you want to be fast as a regular Type S just get a 04-06 TL with MT they will go as fast if not faster than most Type S EXCEPT Type S MT.
Hell the TL-S 6spd isn't that much faster than the TL 6spd anyway, but still got luv for it though.

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as troung stated above; the base 6mt puts down the same amount of power as the automatic type-s.

they both put down about 230 horses with the base 6mt being the lighter of the two.
the base 6mt spanks the auto type-s ALL DAY
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Old 07-31-2013 | 10:41 PM
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So we already know the fastest 3G TL would be the 6mt Type S HPT, but what would happen between the fastest 3G, and a 4G SH-AWD? I have had a couple loaners and they feel pretty strong. So they are advertised at about 19 more HP than the Type S, but I know the 4G weighs a crap load more. I guess no matter what neither of the cars are fast, so it's not gonna be some insane race, just two sedans goin at it with one of them a car or two lengths ahead of the other.
Old 08-01-2013 | 12:48 AM
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well, any 6mt TL-S could be considered Type-S HPT as long as you fit em with Bridgestone Potenzas lol
Old 08-01-2013 | 07:04 AM
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Yes, my goal is to hit the magic 300 number. I'm not interested in supercharging it or making 400 hp but 300 is certainly do-able.
I, also, have this goal of 300 hp with my Type S M/T, seems you could get it with J pipe, cat deletes or high flow cats, and a hondata flashpro tune.
Old 08-01-2013 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
So we already know the fastest 3G TL would be the 6mt Type S HPT, but what would happen between the fastest 3G, and a 4G SH-AWD? I have had a couple loaners and they feel pretty strong. So they are advertised at about 19 more HP than the Type S, but I know the 4G weighs a crap load more. I guess no matter what neither of the cars are fast, so it's not gonna be some insane race, just two sedans goin at it with one of them a car or two lengths ahead of the other.
I have my money on the type-s 6MT.

horsepower improved marginally in the SHAWD and has more heft.

in higher gears, the 6MT will take it.
Old 08-01-2013 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DaeHanMeenGuk
well, any 6mt TL-S could be considered Type-S HPT as long as you fit em with Bridgestone Potenzas lol
This is true, but I was more or less talking about straight from the factory installed options. So since traction is a pretty big issue with FWD drive vehicles, I can only imagine a 6mt Type S with the Michelins will lose a race to a 6mt Type S with the Bridgestones assuming equal drivers. I could be wrong but I think earlier 04-06's were available with HPT option as well. Your right thought, by this point there probably arent too many TL's running original tires anymore. Oddly enough though, my 08 I just sold still had its original Michelins on at at 32,000 miles, and obviously my 07 HPT still has its original Bridgestones on at 6,500 miles. They might not be as sticky as they were though back in 2007 lol.

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Old 08-01-2013 | 07:28 PM
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Old 08-01-2013 | 07:44 PM
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lol.


I'll have to finish mine sometime soon. UA(lmost)7 with the bawls to back it up.

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Old 08-01-2013 | 07:51 PM
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skip to 6:05 to see me spank an S
Old 08-01-2013 | 08:11 PM
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Type-s 6MT is way faster than Auto type-s. Even with my auto bolted with jpipe and intake the 6MT just poops on it. Not even close.

I honestly think that intakes on these cars kill us in the low end. I swapped my intake to my 6MT type-s today and that's one of the first things that I noticed - a loss of low end torque. I have a solid butt dyno that proves this. Before I put the intake on my 6MT, I was able to chirp tires shifting 1st through 3rd gear. After I put the intake on, I barely chirp in 2nd anymore at all.
Old 08-01-2013 | 08:13 PM
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Nice bumper, is that custom?
Old 08-01-2013 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JJH
Type-s 6MT is way faster than Auto type-s. Even with my auto bolted with jpipe and intake the 6MT just poops on it. Not even close.

I honestly think that intakes on these cars kill us in the low end. I swapped my intake to my 6MT type-s today and that's one of the first things that I noticed - a loss of low end torque. I have a solid butt dyno that proves this. Before I put the intake on my 6MT, I was able to chirp tires shifting 1st through 3rd gear. After I put the intake on, I barely chirp in 2nd anymore at all.
you have a 6mt...you can chirp 2nd on command.


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Nice bumper, is that custom?
why, yes it is.

Old 08-01-2013 | 08:19 PM
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Yes, but after I put the intake on I lost my ability to chirp in third.
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^ Didn't you just learn how to drive a 6spd?
Old 08-01-2013 | 08:40 PM
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^yes, he's still noobie. he's had the 6mt for all of 24 hours.
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Off topic, but why would OP name this thread TL vs TLS? When all he wanted to know was about some sticker on his car?

Anyway...................................I wonder if he is like most of you all.............having a hard time learning how to drive a 6spd TL.

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Old 08-01-2013 | 09:07 PM
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^he drove 14 hours home. lol

he better have learned quick


and I love your sig!

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Old 08-01-2013 | 09:22 PM
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Justn I seen the vid.

"I'm just kidding, Mother. Shiiit."
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Old 08-01-2013 | 09:24 PM
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I just played it in front of my mom.
she was like who is that?

"thats you, mom!"
Old 08-01-2013 | 09:27 PM
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Dude put your car back together.

BTW on that side street with the empty lots (cul-de-sac), you drove like an asshole. Awesome...!
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Originally Posted by Acura_Dude
Dude put your car back together.

BTW on that side street with the empty lots (cul-de-sac), you drove like an asshole. Awesome...!
OMG! they told me it was empty.
"nah, dude...there's no one there. its cool."

as I did the fast u-turn, I see people chillin in their apartment outside...


I'm like FUUUUU, we gotta get outta here.
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Originally Posted by justnspace
^he drove 14 hours home. lol

he better have learned quick


and I love your sig!
I can see most of you guys doing this in a manual TL


Sig......yeah I bust out laughing when I saw that
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Old 08-01-2013 | 10:19 PM
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^ @ the vid

Originally Posted by justnspace
OMG! they told me it was empty.
"nah, dude...there's no one there. its cool."

as I did the fast u-turn, I see people chillin in their apartment outside...


I'm like FUUUUU, we gotta get outta here.
Old 08-02-2013 | 01:12 AM
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taking the TL diet to the next level!!! i approve of rear bumper delete!
Old 08-02-2013 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
^ Didn't you just learn how to drive a 6spd?
Originally Posted by justnspace
^yes, he's still noobie. he's had the 6mt for all of 24 hours.
Yeah I did, and yeah it's tough compared to the Jetta I had been practicing on. I love it though! Hoping the slave cylinder check valve delete and GM Syncromesh fluid helps me out a bit.
Old 08-03-2013 | 12:17 AM
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Yeah I did, and yeah it's tough compared to the Jetta I had been practicing on. I love it though! Hoping the slave cylinder check valve delete and GM Syncromesh fluid helps me out a bit.
Keep practicing.
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Ehhh dunno if I agree with that. Sure, it has a few of the things that were incorporated into the 07/08 Type S, but the earlier 6mt TL's are without a doubt not unofficial Type S's. Its simply a base TL with manual trans. I agree with justnspace on this one.
Sorry to disappoint you, but the '04/5/6 6MT actually is the unofficial TYPE-S for those model years.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=95

And as for lostinspace, curious how he agrees with you, yet thanked me for the post I made in that link.
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Old 08-03-2013 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Sorry to disappoint you, but the '04/5/6 6MT actually is the unofficial TYPE-S for those model years.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...4&postcount=95

And as for lostinspace, curious how he agrees with you, yet thanked me for the post I made in that link.
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Ooook, if that's what you wanna call it then ;-) I still don't see how you come up with that just because you can get it with a manual tranny, but I won't argue with ya about it.
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Old 08-03-2013 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
Ooook, if that's what you wanna call it then ;-) I still don't see how you come up with that just because you can get it with a manual tranny, but I won't argue with ya about it.
Who's arguing? This is about separating FACTS from opinion.

Did you even bother to go to and read the link in my post? Because if you did, you'd know this ISN'T just about the only difference being a manual tranny. It's about thicker stabilizer bars, brembo front brakes, and a limited slip differential -- none of which came on the BASE A/T model those years.
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Who's arguing? This is about separating FACTS from opinion.

Did you even bother to go to and read the link in my post? Because if you did, you'd know this ISN'T just about the only difference being a manual tranny. It's about thicker stabilizer bars, brembo front brakes, and a limited slip differential -- none of which came on the BASE A/T model those years.
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Sounds to me like your arguing Yes I did read and see the differences in addition to the manual tranny....all of which IMO still dont really have anything to do with a Type S. People can call the car whatever they want I suppose.
Old 08-03-2013 | 08:08 PM
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That was a good vid.
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oemacuraparts lists 04-06 6MTs as 4DR "sport". I dont think the TL-"S" for the 07-08 model year is a random coincidence.
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Old 08-04-2013 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ez12a
oemacuraparts lists 04-06 6MTs as 4DR "sport". I dont think the TL-"S" for the 07-08 model year is a random coincidence.
No. It's NOT a random coincidence. As I stated in the link in my previous post, acuraoemparts.com ALSO lists the '04/5/6 6MT as the "SPORT' model. Just because there was no 'official' Type-S badge during particular years, doesn't automatically mean there wasn't one considering ALL the differences between the BASE and SPORT versions.
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Old 08-04-2013 | 11:08 AM
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Ugh. You said it yourself, there are only THREE differences. The differences between a 04-06 6mt base TL and a 07-08 type S goes on and on.
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