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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:22 AM
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TL vs TLS

I just purchased an 04 TL Im trying to figure out if someone put a TLS badge on it or if it actually a TLS. any help or tips are appreciated
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:26 AM
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Post a pic. Because if it really is an 04 it is not a type s.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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if you take a look at the vin number it should say 19UUA6 or 19UUA7

UA7 is the type s
and obviously, UA6 is the base model.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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19UUA6 Damnit LOL
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 12:01 PM
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Hopefully you didn't pay for the type S badging.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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Hopefully you didn't pay for the type S badging.

i didnt thank god
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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How does somebody buy a car and not know what they have? LOL Like others have said no its not a Type S because they didn't even make those until 07 for the 3G, but besides that an 07/08 Type S really doesn't look anything like an 04 with exception of the sheet metal.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
How does somebody buy a car and not know what they have? LOL Like others have said no its not a Type S because they didn't even make those until 07 for the 3G, but besides that an 07/08 Type S really doesn't look anything like an 04 with exception of the sheet metal.
we've seen fully converted base models being sold before.

the Vin number is a dead give-a-way
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JTS97Z28
How does somebody buy a car and not know what they have? LOL Like others have said no its not a Type S because they didn't even make those until 07 for the 3G, but besides that an 07/08 Type S really doesn't look anything like an 04 with exception of the sheet metal.
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we've seen fully converted base models being sold before.

the Vin number is a dead give-a-way
Even so I agree with JTS. People need to do research on the car they are about to purchase.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilVirus
Even so I agree with JTS. People need to do research on the car they are about to purchase.
your car can pass for a type-s, just saying.
brembo brakes, type-s front and rear. debadged.

even i was confused when I first saw it.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:03 PM
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^ I get what you are saying but still research your vehicle properly
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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^yes, by the vin number.
19UUA6
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19UUA7
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:14 PM
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dead giveaway is the quad exhaust unless the previous own did that mod too.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:15 PM
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^lol Evil virus has quads, and I so thought it was a type-s when i first saw it. he even had the waffles.
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:19 PM
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A friend of mine has a type s with base tips. I was so confused when I first saw it. Apparently the car was rear ended and they put a base bumper on .
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:30 PM
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OP - didja buy this one?

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/retard-claiming-his-2004-tl-type-s-his-craigslist-ad-890007/

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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Acura604

no he never made the claim of the type s but it has another aftermarket badge on it so I assumed the type s one was out there and not accurate
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 02:52 PM
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hold up, another aftermarket badge besides type s? doesn't happen to say aspec does it
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 03:21 PM
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does it go fast? does it handle on rails? if so, its a type S
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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^ Duh. Type-S = Racecar
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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hold up, another aftermarket badge besides type s? doesn't happen to say aspec does it

No the Acura badge isnt stock from acura its pep boys letter spelling A C U R A
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Just remove it
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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Speaking of badges, there's a Type S around me that has not only the standard Type S badge on the back, but up in the grill as well. Never seen that before

http://www.tampaselect.com/inventory...ype-S+Tampa+FL
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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The 19UUA6 designation by itself is actually a misnomer. If you have a 6MT, then you have the 'unofficial' Type-S for '04-'06 known as the 'Sport' Model with thicker stabilizer bars, a limited slip differential, and Brembo front brakes.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DMZ
The 19UUA6 designation by itself is actually a misnomer. If you have a 6MT, then you have the 'unofficial' Type-S for '04-'06 known as the 'Sport' Model with thicker stabilizer bars, a limited slip differential, and Brembo front brakes.
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my 6mt TL is still a base TL tho.
199UA6 designates the base chassis from the type-s Chassis.
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Originally Posted by DMZ
The 19UUA6 designation by itself is actually a misnomer. If you have a 6MT, then you have the 'unofficial' Type-S for '04-'06 known as the 'Sport' Model with thicker stabilizer bars, a limited slip differential, and Brembo front brakes.
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Ehhh dunno if I agree with that. Sure, it has a few of the things that were incorporated into the 07/08 Type S, but the earlier 6mt TL's are without a doubt not unofficial Type S's. Its simply a base TL with manual trans. I agree with justnspace on this one.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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know your stuffs before making a decision.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Speaking of badges, there's a Type S around me that has not only the standard Type S badge on the back, but up in the grill as well. Never seen that before

http://www.tampaselect.com/inventory...ype-S+Tampa+FL

They were probably trying to do something similar to this:

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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 02:05 PM
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^^^ That looks really dumb on the Type S. One of my pet peeves is when people put extra badges on cars. The OEM one on the trunk lid, the headrests, and the steering wheel is perfect as is. No reason to clutter the car up and degrade its look at the same time.

Here is a perfect example of what happens when people with poor taste get their hands on what was once a good car. I took this picture in a mall parking lot. Who in their right mind would put additional emblems on the headlight doors? LOLOLOL then think to themselves, "yeah this looks really good" hahahaha

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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 02:06 PM
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they had OCD and needed the perfect trifecta of emblems to make themselves feel better
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Type S is rarer than base TL but yet its no where near the performance offer by BMW M, MB AMG, Lexus F (NOT F sport package), Audi S comparing to their base model. I don't know why some Type S owner think they are special (put on flame suit) sorry if I offended any one own a Type S.
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Old Jul 30, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Type S is rarer than base TL but yet its no where near the performance offer by BMW M, MB AMG, Lexus F (NOT F sport package), Audi RS comparing to their base model. I don't know why some Type S owner think they are special (put on flame suit) sorry if I offended any one own a Type S.
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:11 AM
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I want to know what the exact differences are like one member mentioned, not by vin, but 3.7 Liter engine vs. 3.5 L, different suspension? different exhaust? Limited slip diff, what are the mechanical differences?
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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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3.2 vs 3.5
Only vehicles with the manual transmissions had LSD, this includes the base TL as well.
minor suspension changes, they are all interchangeable. minor exhaust differences, they are all interchangeable.
the base TL with manual transmission has brembos.
all type-s has brembos

not much mechanical differences.

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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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TL Engine
  • 3.2-liter SOHC V-6 aluminum alloy engine
  • 258 hp at 6200 rpm and 233 lb-ft of torque at 5000 rpm
  • Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC®)
  • Dual-stage induction system with lightweight magnesium intake manifold
  • Cold-air intake system
  • Computer-controlled Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
  • Direct ignition system
  • Unique exhaust manifolds that are cast directly into the head
  • High flow close-coupled catalytic converters plus under floor catalytic converter (900 cell count)
  • High capacity 32-bit RISC processor engine control unit
  • 100,000 mile tune-up intervals
TL Type-S Engine
  • 3.5-liter SOHC V-6 aluminum alloy engine
  • 286 hp at 6200 rpm and 256 lb-ft of torque at 5000 rpm
  • Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC®)
  • Dual-stage induction system with lightweight magnesium intake manifold
  • Cold-air intake system
  • High flow, sport tuned exhaust system with quad exhaust tips
  • Computer-controlled Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI)
  • Direct ignition system
  • Unique exhaust manifolds that are cast directly into the head
  • High flow close-coupled catalytic converters plus under floor catalytic converter (600 cell count)
  • High capacity 32-bit RISC processor engine control unit
  • 100,000 mile tune-up intervals
The TL Type-S features a high-flow exhaust system with 14-percent better flow than the TL, with larger pipes through much of its length. Tuned for an aggressive sound befitting the high-performance image of the TL Type-S, the system also features exhaust tip with large quad outlets (two on each side).


Type-S Exclusive Features
  • 3.5-liter, 286 hp, 24-valve, SOHC VTEC® 6-cylinder engine
  • Exclusive 10-spoke, 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels
  • Sport-tuned suspension
  • Four-piston Brembo brakes
  • Black chrome exterior trim
  • Wider side sills
  • Exclusive front and rear fascia
  • Exclusive headlight, taillight and side marker treatments
  • Three-spoke steering wheel
  • Aluminum carbon-fiber look trim and contrast stitching on doors, seats and steering wheel
  • High-performance seats with increased lateral support and Type-S logo embossed on headrest
  • Gauges featuring "spun-metal" look with laser-etched numerals
  • Standard Acura Satellite-Linked Navigation System™
  • Active Noise Cancellation (ANC)
  • Ambient cabin lighting (Red)
  • Stainless steel sport pedals
  • Integrated quad-outlet sport exhaust
  • Rear Type-S badging

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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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^^^^ Many thanks bro!

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Old Jul 31, 2013 | 05:43 PM
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if you want to be fast as a regular Type S just get a 04-06 TL with MT they will go as fast if not faster than most Type S EXCEPT Type S MT.
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Its sad that as good looking of a car as the type s is, not that the base isn't, that they only upped it to 286 from 258 or whatever. Maybe it was that shift from 270hp to 258hp (I forget what changed it) has something to do with it. If the same measurement was used I bet the type S would've been close, if not over 300. 300hp is where it should be in my opinion to stand out, aside from the other additives it got. Whatever, I'm sure plenty people around here have found ways to get it close to 300 on their own anyways with CAEs and whatnot.
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Its sad that as good looking of a car as the type s is, not that the base isn't, that they only upped it to 286 from 258 or whatever. Maybe it was that shift from 270hp to 258hp (I forget what changed it) has something to do with it. If the same measurement was used I bet the type S would've been close, if not over 300. 300hp is where it should be in my opinion to stand out, aside from the other additives it got. Whatever, I'm sure plenty people around here have found ways to get it close to 300 on their own anyways with CAEs and whatnot.
Yes, my goal is to hit the magic 300 number. I'm not interested in supercharging it or making 400 hp but 300 is certainly do-able.
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