ChairmanKaga809

...is it just me or does the steering feel a lot heavier than before? Of course, I had a 2012 TL for a loaner for a week, and the electric steering assist was great, so maybe it could be that...

turbo_oxide

it took a week...?

Bearcat94

Waiting on parts?


OP - No, feels the same to me. Although the TL-S has always had 'tight' steering.

bonnhew

i called the dealer for the recall and they told me it was only going to take an hour to get everything fixed. i know everybody is getting loaner cars and stuff but id rather just wait there if its only going to take an hour. is that how long it would take to get the power steering recall fixed?

ChairmanKaga809

No, it took one afternoon. I had other warranty work done separate from the power hose recall.

paperboy42190

iTrader: (7)

i had my loaner 2012 tsx w/ tech for 2 days and had free gas and miles

Healingduck

I think people in the recall thread were saying it took about 3 1/2 hours. Might as well get a loaner and either go do something or just go home.

DaeHanMeenGuk

took me an hour half. and to answer your question, steering feels the same.

J35A8

Yes, mines feels a tad heavier

ryanyk

I'm with you OP, my steering feels heavier.

ChairmanKaga809

Good to know its not just me. I'd like to know the mechanics behind this, can anyone with substantial knowledge chime in?

KJ TL-S

iTrader: (9)

So after having 2 loaners recently, a TSX and a TL, I can say that when I get back in my Type-S the steering feels much heavier. But I felt that after the TL I had first and after the TSX I had for the recall.

My opinion is that our steering is just way heavier than the newer models, not a bad thing in and of itself.


Although I really do like the thicker steering wheels they have...

BrownBuck

I was told they had to wait for the car to cool cuz it's behind the engine so it would ATLEAST take 2-3 hours.

TheChamp531

iTrader: (3)

I think the PS recall helped overall in terms of steering. Was slight heavier feel, but it felt more "confident/secure" when turning at higher speeds.

Steven Bell

iTrader: (2)

^^^ This.....is correct.

ZOMGVTEK

Is it safe to assume the PS fluid would be replaced recently if this recall was performed? I recently purchased a 07 TL and 'My Acura' does not say my vehicle needs the recall. The PS fluid is fairly dark. Is it just that they are slowly rolling out the recall?

jeeva86

Loaners get you free gas? I don't mind waiting if it's an only an hour, but 2-3 hours wait is a bit too much.

ChairmanKaga809

I checked myacura too and I wasn't notified about the recall. I called American Honda just to be sure and the customer service rep did confirm that my car is under the recall.

So I would call Acura to double check.

Same! I love how the wheel on the newer generation TL and TSX is smaller, and the leather feels really good. I wonder if anyone has changed out the leather on the 3rd gen TL steering wheel, or heck, fitted a 2012 TL wheel to a 3rd gen TL

ZOMGVTEK

For those that have had it done, does it appear they simply topped off the PS fluid, or does it appear extremely clean as was likely all replaced?

jeeva86

Got my appointment set for next Tuesday! Hopefully I don't get a crappy CSX as a loaner! :|

Will Y.

The steering feel on my '05 TL did not change after the PS hose recall was done.

FWIW, the dealership forgot to change the inlet o-ring at the time.

No-- not even close.
My PS fluid was only topped off.

FWIW, PS fluid replacement/flushing is not a normal maintenance item, so I'd change it only if it got really dark.

Sick TLS

iTrader: (11)

i have had the biggest fiasco with the dealer i took mine too. Told me it would only take an hour, so i declined the loaner... ended up taking just under 4 and a half hours with no notification from anyone what was going on. When i would talk to the service advisor, he said he would go check and let me know... 3 times of getting with him, still no response.. then i get my car back and there is power steering fluid all over the engine bay from them apparently just pouring fluid all over the engine bay and hoping it went into the resivoir. And to top it all off, 2 bolts are missing on my strut tower bar and all 3 plastic engine covers are broken and loose in the engine bay... Getting it figured out here either today or tomorrow.

OP to answer your question, my steering does feel considerably heavier. I thought it was just my imagination since im between a lifted wrangler and tl all the time.

BlitzBlackGSXR

I have this recal on my car and i just need to find the time to get it done.

On the heavy steering feeling, I bet the dealer is using a thicker fluid. I know in motorcycles , mostly street bikes , some of the bikes come fitted with an OEM steering stabilyzer ( kind of like power steering for motorcycles ) and the thicker/thinner the fluid used will net you different results as faster turn in or slower turn in. So I bet the dealer is using a different kind of fluid that may be thicker than what the car originally came with. That would create the heavier steering feeling but I could be wrong and its just a thought.

07BLKTL

Is there any sure fire way to check to see if all TSB's have been preformed? I wanna see about getting mine replaced on tuesday if it's not been done.

Do they change the entire PS fluid then?

paperboy42190

iTrader: (7)

I took my car in on monday 11am, and they said it should be done by the end of the day. they called in the afternoon saying it will take until tuesday. I got busy on tuesday and waited until wednesday to return to the dealership. 2 days of free gas and miles I drove 92 miles those 2 days

cbptls

Got my appointment set up for next week, the first thing they did was offer me a loaner vehicle. I will update if I feel a similar result after the work is performed.

offaoffaoffa

iTrader: (1)

So I went in for the recall at 9:30am and they were done by 11:30. Does this sound fishy to anyone?

Sick TLS

iTrader: (11)

no.. if they can get it done in that about of time, perfect! i would have prefered that but no such luck.

Warrior 6

Service was completed two weeks ago, free loaner provided, 2012 TL Advanced, ok car. No change to feel of the pwr steering from my perspective.

ZOMGVTEK

I really wouldn't think the PS feel would change. The first thing I noticed when I first drove my TL was the EXTREMELY heavy steering. Way heavier than any other car I drove. After only a week, I got used to it and it feels normal. I'd say the people saying it feels heavier got used to the loner vehicle.

For those wondering if the recall was performed, call Acura up. I checked online on My Acura, and it showed no active recalls. After calling, they said it should show up, since the recall has not been performed and it affects my vehicle. I set up an appointment for Monday. I'll take pictures of the fluid color, level, and hoses before it goes in to see what was done since apparently nobody knows.

gdong

It felt looser on mine after the recall. It's still stiffer than any other car I've driven.

jeeva86

Has the stiffness at standstill decreased because that's the one that requires 2 hands sometimes.

ZOMGVTEK

These pictures were taken yesterday, before the dealer performed the recall service. I will take some pictures after I get it back today.

ZOMGVTEK

After.









The fluid does not appear to be changed. The level is slightly lower, it still has a slightly burnt color and odor.

jeeva86

Did they indicate PSF in the invoice?

ZOMGVTEK

Yep. 3 QTY.