Thinking of trading '04 TL for ap2 s2k

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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:51 AM
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Thinking of trading '04 TL for ap2 s2k

After test driving the car today, im interested in trading my 04 tl for s2k ap2... is this an upgrade or should I keep my tl. My tl is paid off. How much would I get from dealership a 106k miles? Is it worth it?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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Depends on your definition of upgrade. The car has no low end torque but a high revving engine, in fact, the car will take some getting used to as the engine needs to build up some RPM's to get into the power curve as the V Tech comes on @ 6000 RPM with a 8900 redline. It's a great car, nimble with excellent handling, but if you don't mind a 2 seater, you'll thoroughly enjoy the car. The car weighs maybe 2800lbs and has larger tires than the TL. We have a 2 seater and I use it whenever we can, although only 1500 miles p/year, but when I drive the car it's always enjoyable and although I need to hold back when the wife is in the car, I still get a blast out of driving it.

As far as cost, let's say a 2006 list is $20,000, maybe $10,000 for the TL on a trade in.

If you have some extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, get the Honda and throw a supercharger on and you'll never look back.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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Your tl auto or manual?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:36 AM
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what's the specs on the ap2 (mileage/year/color/price)?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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^ +1 on the specs of the S2K and have you done the 105k service yet?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Your car is PAID for. Buy a house, a vacation, a bigger 401k!
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 12:05 PM
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I had my TL for a month and almost got a gorgeous AP2 but I couldn't give up the back seats. I like having the option to drive when hanging out with a group of people.

I'll have a S2k later in life once I have a house and I'm out of school.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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I've been thinking about replacing the TL with an ap1 S2000 after I graduate next year, since I won't be needing to haul around friends & teammates nearly as often.

The TL is loads of fun, and a great car for what it is, but I think I would get far more enjoyment out of driving a barebones rwd 4cylinder two-seater. I've also contemplated NA or NB miatas, MR2s, etc. if I want to go for something even more thrifty/minimalistic.

Does anybody know how TL vs S2k(ap1 or ap2) insurance rates compare?
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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What is the fuss about the s2k? I don't find it nice. I think it looks like a girl car like the IS series. :x
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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If I didn't have a family to cart around, I'd definately consider owning an S2k to putz around in. Nothing like a full-race equipped rwd convertible. Yum.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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I have driven many sk2's and honestly I love my 6 spd tl more.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by callahan
Your tl auto or manual?
i have a 6speed.

i hardly use my back seats and most of the time im solo driving or with my gf.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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You planning on starting a family anytime soon? If not, go for it!
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by anthracite_ftw
Does anybody know how TL vs S2k(ap1 or ap2) insurance rates compare?
It probably varies between states based on various factors.. but I looked at s2k's before I got my TL-S. but for me, the insurance in OH was roughly the same for both vehicles: ~$40/month.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
You planning on starting a family anytime soon? If not, go for it!
not anytime soon, the girlfriend has a mits outback, and i have a second toyota alvalon car sitting the garage.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbonut
Depends on your definition of upgrade. The car has no low end torque but a high revving engine, in fact, the car will take some getting used to as the engine needs to build up some RPM's to get into the power curve as the V Tech comes on @ 6000 RPM with a 8900 redline. It's a great car, nimble with excellent handling, but if you don't mind a 2 seater, you'll thoroughly enjoy the car. The car weighs maybe 2800lbs and has larger tires than the TL. We have a 2 seater and I use it whenever we can, although only 1500 miles p/year, but when I drive the car it's always enjoyable and although I need to hold back when the wife is in the car, I still get a blast out of driving it.

As far as cost, let's say a 2006 list is $20,000, maybe $10,000 for the TL on a trade in.

If you have some extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, get the Honda and throw a supercharger on and you'll never look back.
Ap2s have a 8200 rpm redline.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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Depends on where you live. If you live in a place with bad winters I would keep the TL. If your Acura is paid off, go buy the S2K and use the TL as a DD.

TheChamp. The S2K is an amazing handling car. More dudes drive a S2K than chics. If you know how to drive it, every curvy road becomes a thrill.
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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If you're going to a sports car from a base TL then yeah I would go S2K and boost it. : )
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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 07:32 PM
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trade alvalon for s2k?
keep TL?

s2k is a fun and great car and all but it's definitely not a DD car. there's no room for anything inside the cabin(doesn't even have a real glovebox). altho, the truck space is surprisingly big
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Nukem
Depends on where you live. If you live in a place with bad winters I would keep the TL. If your Acura is paid off, go buy the S2K and use the TL as a DD.

TheChamp. The S2K is an amazing handling car. More dudes drive a S2K than chics. If you know how to drive it, every curvy road becomes a thrill.
Yeah it is fun to drive, just nothing I'd like to be in. I've been in one and its just to girly for me. Even modded
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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Do it!

I was going to say you might miss the practicality, but considering the other two cars in the garage, that's really a moot point.

S2000s are only going to get older, and you might not have this chance later on.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 02:10 PM
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trade avalon in for s2k, problem solved.
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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FYI, at that price:
Nissan 350Z: 8:26 on Nurburgring
Honda S2000: 8:39 on Nurburgring
Mazdaspeed 3: 8:39 on Nurburgring
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 03:14 PM
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FYI, at that price:
Honda S2000: 8:39 on Nurburgring
is that an AP1 or AP2 S2K
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nukem
is that an AP1 or AP2 S2K
AP1 model year 2000
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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You planning on starting a family anytime soon? If not, go for it!
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Old Apr 10, 2012 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by VieTLover
trade avalon in for s2k, problem solved.
yes i was thinking that, but my mom uses that car if her honda fails. she doesnt know how to drive a 6speed...
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 05:21 AM
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by anthracite_ftw
Does anybody know how TL vs S2k(ap1 or ap2) insurance rates compare?

I have a 08 TL-S and AP1 S2k (02) and the S2k with full coverage and listed as a leisure car is about the same to insure as the TL. I'm going to try to switch the S2k to a collectors insurance like haggerty or something but i don't think you can do that if it's your DD. Also, it's very important to consider how much less forgiving an AP1 S2k is compared to the TL when it comes to driving at the car's limits. I would suggest a few AutoX runs for good measure when learning the car. Another important factor to consider as i've seen someone mention a 2000 year S2k is that they started to put glass rear windows in 2002 as opposed to the murky plastic. This may not matter, but the glass was a must for me. Check out s2ki.com and s2kca.com if you need informative S2k resources online, and good luck!
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Might get more for the car selling private party, you can always ask dealer how much he would give you in trade in then see if you can get a little more selling it....
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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It's solved
Teach her how to drive 6 speed
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by anthracite_ftw
Does anybody know how TL vs S2k(ap1 or ap2) insurance rates compare?
You can go to S2K forum to find out the most S2K friendly insurer. I bet I won't be skyrocketing.
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Old Apr 11, 2012 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by archs2000
I have a 08 TL-S and AP1 S2k (02) and the S2k with full coverage and listed as a leisure car is about the same to insure as the TL. I'm going to try to switch the S2k to a collectors insurance like haggerty or something but i don't think you can do that if it's your DD. Also, it's very important to consider how much less forgiving an AP1 S2k is compared to the TL when it comes to driving at the car's limits. I would suggest a few AutoX runs for good measure when learning the car. Another important factor to consider as i've seen someone mention a 2000 year S2k is that they started to put glass rear windows in 2002 as opposed to the murky plastic. This may not matter, but the glass was a must for me. Check out s2ki.com and s2kca.com if you need informative S2k resources online, and good luck!
i only want hardtop option, i seen the plastic window and it looks horrific after aging. im looking at the ap2 06-07 verison
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 01:53 AM
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I have an NA miata as a secondary car. The S2k is going to have a lot more power out of the box, that is for sure. The Miatas do weigh less though and mods are plentiful/cheap. Spend around 2800 for a decent entry level turbo setup with a megasquirt for the Miata and you'll be having loads of fun. Stock motors are good for 230-250wtq, anything more and you start to get wavy gravy rods.

You can also pick up a decent NA Miata for sub 3500 and keep the TL. At 24 I pay 195/mo for full coverage on both cars as well as my renter's insurance.
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Old Apr 17, 2012 | 12:58 AM
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heres an idea, i also own a 05 yamaha r6, maybe i can sell that since i hardly ride my bike anymore
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