TheOne305

im thinking of getting direct port NX system.I'm a big nitrious fan for i ran17 bottles of 75shot of zex in my 92 Prelude Si AWS with 145k miles and held up just fine.but i dont know if i can run 100shot on the J32 or will the drive-by-wire will some what be a hassel.Anyone have any tips?

Teh Jatt

nitrious = on 04TL

Aegir

That was scientific. Why not?

NightRider

Aegir

I don't think the DBW would be an issue. Just use a separate WOT switch.

rets

Let us know how it performs, please...

TheOne305

not sure what you mean by seperate WOT switch,do you mean manual switch or just use the WOT that comes with the kit

Aegir

The one that comes with the kit.

Teh Jatt

I was just whoring :fingerfawk:

mastertl

I thought the displacement of the TL would not allow you to run a NOS system

TheOne305

well the direct port fuel injector adaptor wont work on the tl.I look under the intake manifold and theres not enough room the injectors are already barely fitting.So a dry or wet shot from the intake tube seems like the only place other then tapping your intake which im not going to do

Aegir

Yep. Run it to the intake tube - should be fine for a small shot. Use an aftermarket CAI and the whole thing could be pulled out in a few hours with no obvious signs it was ever there. I'm sure there are plenty of 2nd gen A-CL/A-TL folks who've done this. A search would probably retreive some good advice and tips.

I'd get my butt kicked by the 'boss' for running NOS to such a new car , but I'd consider it a few years down the road. Hard to beat the bang for the buck.

GaleForce

NOS is like steroids for your engine. I think its a bad idea. Put real hardware in like a Supercharger, something that provides constant boost as an actual addition to the engine. NOS is as bad for your engine as steroids are for a person. And on top of that NOS is only a temporary boost.

Tommy_boy

Yeah, But it will give you the edge against an M5

ensley696

Not sure about the new M5 though, 500HP is a lot of friggen power. I would rather a supercharger or turbo charger myself.

TheOne305

NOS is always mistreated as a bad idea.like a turbo/nos your motor has limits.both setups do the samething but in a diffrent way.Turbo forces air into your motor and nos does it in a form of science.Basicly doesnt matter what you run the KEY word for most blow motor(AKA most f ck ups)is not enough FUEL.I'll say it again FUEL,and there's a key phrase MUST HAVE PROPER MIXTURE.dont have proper A/f your gonna run lean or rich.i have ran almost 20 bottles of nos on my 92 prelude with almost 150k miles and it held up just fine and i passed emissions before i sold it.my .02 about nos

Aegir

This is a common sentiment, but is it accurate? Consider this: Is there really a difference (in stress and strain on internal engine components) between making 350hp with a properly configured supercharger and 350hp with a properly configured nitrous system?

fast-tl

Yes, as I see it. Boost from the S/C builds power gradually with RPM, while the engine is "shocked" by the shot of nitrous. Flooring your car gradually is not the same to the drivetrain as flooring it from a dead stop.

GaleForce

Yes. The SC provides a constant boost as the engine builds power up (well, RPMs anyway). The NOS takes the engine, running under NORMAL, non-boost conditions, and suddenly shocks it into one with boost. Granted, a SC gives the car boost, but the car is constantly running boost. Just like working out you can constantly work out to build your muscles, or try and do way too much way too fast when you're not normally exercising (or boosting in the case of the engine) and end up hurting yourself. I don't see suddenly boosting your engine from normal running conditions while you're driving as something that can be good for the engine. Kinda like flooring the car from a stop light. Its fun to do every once in a while, but redlining the car to the limiter isn't good for the engine.

fast-tl

Uhhh, GaleForce? Thanks for the backup, eh?

GaleForce

Just defending my stance since he was challenging my post .

Aegir

I see the point you are making, however I disagree that the cylinder pressures or rod/piston/crank forces and acceleration rates are greater when nitrous kicks in at say 4500rpm than they would be at 6800rpm in either a supercharged or nitrous engine. In fact, the cooling effect of nitrous should allow nitrous systems to produce the same power as supercharged cars at lower cylinder pressures.

fast-tl

OK, but the problem as I stated is the sudden, rather than gradual change in pressure. It's the same with a balloon, even in that you can inflate it gradually better than a 300psi burst, which could, well, burst it. Either power adder could blow the engine, it's just that it's much easier to mis-apply nitrous than a s/c. Either can be done incorrectly, though.

Azuki

I wouldn't use NOS to my TL until year 2012

Hey, TheOne, I used to have a 92si also, were you ever at HondaPrelude.com? The site got shut down because no $$$~~

TheOne305

No i wasnt on a forum until i got my TL.I wish i was i like being on forums

TheOne305

well you cant compare a human body to a motor and when you say shock you make it sound like a dry shot makes a instant slam your fist hard on the table shock :sqnteek: .have you ever use a dry shot before.It actual lags for a second and its doesnt hit that hard at once.You should have some EXP!! first with nos because if you did you would know that a dry shot does not hit with great shock all at once :sqntfawk:

TheOne305

right on

TheOne305

well you cant compare a human body to a motor and when you say shock you make it sound like a dry shot makes a instant slam your fist hard on the table shock :sqnteek: .have you ever use a dry shot before.It actual lags for a second and its doesnt hit that hard at once.You should have some EXP!! first with nos because if you did you would know that a dry shot does not hit with great shock all at once :sqntfawk:

Just defending my post

Scott GN231

Your analogy does not hold up.

As a poster above pointed out, a key part of any power adder such as nitrous oxide, turbocharging, or supercharging is ensuring that fueling as adequate. You're not going to be able to safely run a supercharger or turbocharger without adding fuel or pulling timing.

Explain your last sentence? You are not redlining your car if you shift before the limiter...

-S.

TheOne305