Is there something wrong with my 04 TL?
02-10-2011, 01:18 PM
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Is there something wrong with my 04 TL?
Hi everyone i used to own a 02 tl type s now i own a 04 wich i will post pics real soon. The problem is i raced a 4 gen tl about a week a go and it was not the awd model. The car easily pulled 3 cars away from me 0 to 80.I'm mostly mad because my car has an iceman cai, mid muffler deleted, magnaflow cat 2/1/2 inch resonator along with the rest and the stock mufflers. Sometimes my car pulls hard from a dig and sometimes it feels like it looses power.WHAT COULD IT BE? SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE.
02-10-2011, 01:31 PM
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OP sorry to burst your bubble, but you're still not making nearly as much power as the 4G. Yes, the 4G is heavier, but 3 cars isn't really a whole lot.
Maybe catch up on your maintenance?
02-10-2011, 01:49 PM
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Sorry my tl is auto but still a stock 4th gen base tl should be at least on par with mine i think.My car is up to date on maintenance i used the stock 5 20 oil put in a bottle of lucas oil stabilizer (just in case) and use fuel injector cleaner everytime i fill the tank and it hasn't passed even 2 weeks since the last oil change
02-10-2011, 01:50 PM
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Full of water...
The problem with your car is that its slower, and no intake or muffler mod will make it faster. The only way you might come close is if you had the MT.
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02-10-2011, 02:28 PM
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mines the 04 it has 270 wich was later revised to 258 on 06 models and up.Still i guess since the 4 gen base tl has a 3.5 im guessing it has better low end torque.Damn should of waited and bought a manual but still i love my car and mostly got it auto because of my wife.
02-10-2011, 02:33 PM
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mines the 04 it has 270 wich was later revised to 258 on 06 models and up.Still i guess since the 4 gen base tl has a 3.5 im guessing it has better low end torque.Damn should of waited and bought a manual but still i love my car and mostly got it auto because of my wife.
and probably about 210 to the wheels.
the testing was revised. not the engine.
your engine is the same as mine.
except i'm putting down about 230 to the wheels without including mods.
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mines the 04 it has 270 wich was later revised to 258 on 06 models and up.Still i guess since the 4 gen base tl has a 3.5 im guessing it has better low end torque.Damn should of waited and bought a manual but still i love my car and mostly got it auto because of my wife.
02-10-2011, 02:47 PM
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mines the 04 it has 270 wich was later revised to 258 on 06 models and up.Still i guess since the 4 gen base tl has a 3.5 im guessing it has better low end torque.Damn should of waited and bought a manual but still i love my car and mostly got it auto because of my wife.
mines the 04 it has 270 wich was later revised to 258 on 06 models and up.Still i guess since the 4 gen base tl has a 3.5 im guessing it has better low end torque.Damn should of waited and bought a manual but still i love my car and mostly got it auto because of my wife.
what? jr, did you even read what justin so eloquently wrote for you?
02-10-2011, 03:08 PM
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ok thanks for the update i thought they had 270 and then 258 so i guess i was wrong i know i lose more hp than a manual but damn still i think i he should of at least pulled like about 1 car length from me what do you guys think?
02-10-2011, 08:55 PM
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mines the 04 it has 270 wich was later revised to 258 on 06 models and up.Still i guess since the 4 gen base tl has a 3.5 im guessing it has better low end torque.Damn should of waited and bought a manual but still i love my car and mostly got it auto because of my wife.
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Double post FTL?
02-10-2011, 09:32 PM
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I thought I read a thread recently about a sensor that sometimes needs replaced on the Auto cars. This line is what made me think it could be that same issue:
"Sometimes my car pulls hard from a dig and sometimes it feels like it looses power."
Anyone know what I'm talking about? I've got a 6MT so I didn't pay close attention.
"Sometimes my car pulls hard from a dig and sometimes it feels like it looses power."
Anyone know what I'm talking about? I've got a 6MT so I didn't pay close attention.
02-10-2011, 10:57 PM
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Lol wut
02-11-2011, 10:41 AM
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that's the main thing I'm trying to say sometimes it's fast from a dig and sometimes an old man in a wheelchair takes of faster than me what the f... obviously i know my car isn't a porche I just want to know if anyone with an auto tl has had this problem and if so please let me know what it is ok thanks.
02-11-2011, 10:44 AM
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I thought I read a thread recently about a sensor that sometimes needs replaced on the Auto cars. This line is what made me think it could be that same issue:
"Sometimes my car pulls hard from a dig and sometimes it feels like it looses power."
Anyone know what I'm talking about? I've got a 6MT so I didn't pay close attention.
"Sometimes my car pulls hard from a dig and sometimes it feels like it looses power."
Anyone know what I'm talking about? I've got a 6MT so I didn't pay close attention.
or an ECU reset.
that's the main thing I'm trying to say sometimes it's fast from a dig and sometimes an old man in a wheelchair takes of faster than me what the f... obviously i know my car isn't a porche I just want to know if anyone with an auto tl has had this problem and if so please let me know what it is ok thanks.
here let me find the thread for you. hang on.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/resetting-ecu-makes-me-happy-747662/
read this thread and follow the directions in order to reset your ECU.
after the reset your car should be pretty snappy.
Also, we cannot possibly tell if your car is running in optimum condition or not. you have not presented us with any hard data.
all we have to go on is....my car is sluggish.
winner for the most vague description ever.
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^i don't know man...i'm not sure how it can be fast sometimes and slow other times. 
different weather/humidity, different power?
full tank of gas, almost on E?
reset ECU?
when you say "fast from a dig"...fast compared to what? the other car you are racing or just in general?
different weather/humidity, different power?
full tank of gas, almost on E?
reset ECU?
when you say "fast from a dig"...fast compared to what? the other car you are racing or just in general?
02-11-2011, 11:04 AM
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APP sensor.
or an ECU reset.
you can do a simple ECU reset.
here let me find the thread for you. hang on.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747662
read this thread and follow the directions in order to reset your ECU.
after the reset your car should be pretty snappy.
Also, we cannot possibly tell if your car is running in optimum condition or not. you have not presented us with any hard data.
all we have to go on is....my car is sluggish.
winner for the most vague description ever.
or an ECU reset.
you can do a simple ECU reset.
here let me find the thread for you. hang on.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=747662
read this thread and follow the directions in order to reset your ECU.
after the reset your car should be pretty snappy.
Also, we cannot possibly tell if your car is running in optimum condition or not. you have not presented us with any hard data.
all we have to go on is....my car is sluggish.
winner for the most vague description ever.
02-11-2011, 11:29 AM
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ok i bought the car about 2 months ago all maintenance has been done oil change,tranny oil change, new power steering pump,new alternator,new 900 ca optima battery like i said if i step on the gas vsa off sometimes it responds ok sometimes its sluggish.I'm uploading a few pics of the car now
02-11-2011, 12:12 PM
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thanks i will reset it. I posted some pics of my car in my profile if anyone wants to see the shape its in. Thanks for the comments good or bad someway they gotta help right? I'll let you guys know how the car runs after ecu reset thanks again.
02-11-2011, 12:37 PM
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OP, What kind of tires are you running, and what kind of condition are they in. Before you go replacing sensors, remove the throttlebody and clean it. If by chance your around 100,000 miles, you might want to think about replacing the plugs. You could try the ECU reset. Unless the new FWD 3.5 TL is modded, you shouldn't have any problems beating that car, because they aren't fast at all.
02-11-2011, 01:31 PM
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i changed the spark plugs the first week i bought it and the car only has 76,000 miles on it and im running on sport summer tires since it never gets cold were i live. Thanks for the suggestions i appreciate it.
02-11-2011, 01:36 PM
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If the car is a dog sometimes off the line, and great other times, and this is all when the VSA is switched off, I don't think it is something consistent like crappy tires. It sounds like something that is "hit or miss" like a faulty sensor.
