xelvic

Hey guys,

I am heavily considering getting the Comptech supercharger for my 2005 TL auto. I would absolutely love having a 350 horsepower car. I'm very concerned about our transmissions being able to handle the extra power. I have read about the transmission issues with this car. Has the transmission problems been taken care of? Has anyone had any transmission problems with an 05? How does the supercharger effect the warranty? Can I have the Acura dealer install the supercharger and warranty it like Toyota does? I found a link to the comptech supercharger with more info on it. They recommend a extra transmission cooler ant hight temp ATF oil. I wont get the supercharger if it will blow my transmission out. Its just not worth it to me. Maybe I should also post this in the 2nd generation forums because they have put superchargers on there cars. Anyways guys, maybe you can shed some light on this for me. Here is the link for the supercharger with the extra info for it. Thanks in advance for any replies.

Link---> supercharger

cM3go

well its not available yet, so we're not sure how it performs on the 3rd Gen TL

mickey3c

The 04 as well as the previous models require an oil jet.... Now unless a late 04/05 design change has happened, which I doubt (correct me if I am wrong) they just install the oil jet as part of the factory assembly. Of course you feel better that you were not recalled, but that does not mean you do not have the same problem.

If you could get your hands on test data you might have an idea. For example, car makers usually test outside the range of the marketed iron to see where breakage occurs and to see if they can bump up the power and not suffer from a bad image or $$ due to recalls.

Chances are you will void the warranty with a super charger. Headers probably will not void the warranty at all, but the tranny failed in the second gen and headers provided some extra umph, so I am not sure what acura is saying now...

The max torque range on older models was 3500-5500. My impression was that the torque curve for this engine helped burn out the trannies and so the 04 model changed the torque curve higher in the RPM range and added 10 more ponies and 6 more ft pounds. Check into what changes they made to the 5AT and 6MT in 04/05.

I guess you might have to do a clint eastwood... You got to ask yourself... Do you feel lucky ... Well do ya punk?!!!!! lol.. You could get a super charger when it become available... Just be ready to do more maintenance on the engine and tranny. Those of us that performance tune our cars to squeeze every bit of power out of them know that when you do this... you have to accept that the maintenance costs are higher...

r10apple

My local dealer will install ANY Comptech part, including the supercharger ('02-03 TL-S, of course) and provide service w/ no issue concerning the warranty. They even have Comptech catalogues in the waiting areas...

mickey3c

well then there you have it.... good to know... I saw that infiniti also said you can add a super charger and not void the warranty as well.

mickey3c

By the way, you might want to check into a level 10 upgrade if you are concerned about tranny issues. Not sure as to over all how much it could run, but if you are pushing more power out of the engine, it is best to make sure the entire powertrain can take the load... IMHO of course...

http://www.levelten.com/store/import...s_acura_cl.htm

ONAGER

computech is an acura/honda tuner. since they work hand in hand with honda, if a dealer installs the part, it should not void the warrenty. just as stillen is with nissan/infinity, and saleen is with ford.... computech meets or exceeds all of hondas standards for QA and they dont push the limits real high (dont strain parts). but it has to be installed by the dealer. and talk to your dealer before hand... we all know the dealers are a bunch of ass clowns, even if your right they may fight you.... find a dealer that has done this work and is reputable

if you get a tranny cooler and you use high quality fluid, your tranny should be fine. the recall was for 2nd gear over heating and causing damage. this issue has been addressed by honda/acura all new cars should not have an issue, and all older cars have been sent notice of a recall to install a jet kit to cool that gear. just take it easy with the burn out and dont power brake it....

ONAGER

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106076

here is a link to a thread i started comparing older tl/cl type-s to the new tl.
from what i have seen the newer tl hold a slight advantage in power over the older models. there power curves are almost identical, with the new tl just being a little higher.... also the new tl maintains 200ft lb through most of the run with a peak at 5000 rpm...

if what you are saying is true the new models will be chewing up their trannys even faster

NSX-Tuner

I wouldn't expect any more than 300 WHP from the '04/'05 TL 5AT S/C kit, maybe 320 WHP for the 6MT.

mickey3c

I have not kept up with the older tranny issue since I try to have a full life

They must have made some changes. It is just something to watch since there was a second gear issue on the 5AT as well. I am sure someone on here can comment better than I can at the moment as to what changes were made...

xelvic

Wow good info guys keep it comming. I'm going to call Acura and see if they will install the SC. If they do say yes and will not void my warranty, I will crap my pants and buy the SC the day it comes out!

NSX-Tuner

Acura of Pleasanton installed my S/C and the warranty is still good. But they are CompTech mod friendly...

r10apple

With the hbp and exhaust, of course, but otherwise agreed...

xelvic

ya, when I said 350 horsepower I ment at the crank not at the wheels. So I figure the stock is 270 then 350 would not be that far off. If you think I can get 300 at the wheels then WOW WOW WOW! That would be like what 375-385 at the crank?

r10apple

I don't worry about crank figures, but probably in that neighborhood...

Yeah, the '02/03 s/c kit is benefiting a lot with us having headers, but with the hbp, it is putting down about 290hp. You will be right around the 300ho figure give or take. An i/c unit would definitely put you there, but I guess you'll have to wait on the r&d for all that...

NSX-Tuner

My '01 CLS 6MT was dyno'd with 305/262 WHP/TQ at CompTech. This was with CT i/sc/h/fullcat installed. On the 6MT, 305 WHP is approx. 370 at the crank. I'm hoping that CompTech will have a chip upgrade (based on the '04 TL S/C kit) soon to replace my ESM where I might pick up another 15-30 WHP. I don't want to do the HBP because of CA gas. HBP and E-Manage is out of the question because of warranty issues.

NBPTLBOI

I hear about all these tranny probs with the 5at but wut about the 6mt? does that mean that us 6mt ppl are in the clear?

r10apple

Just clutches!!!