3/19 : Took delivery of Anthracite/Camel 5AM.

Great weekend driving this fantastic automobile.

Regarding the startup screen on the Navi system. Minor annoyance having to see that over and over and waiting for OK button. Anyone know of a way to bypass that message?

Thanks

 

jamison - I don't have a Navi; however, I've lurked here and been a frequent poster for awhile and I don't recall anyone ever mentioning how they got around this navi disclaimer. It woud be a minor annoyance though I think.

Someone with a Navi will be along soon enough to give you a definite answer.

 

Its the law to put the disclaimer there. All companies do. Its something you have to live with...

 

I have my manservant start my car and wait to hit the 'ok' button before I set foot in my garage.

 

There is no "law" that dictates that this is done! It's purely a CYA (cover-your-ass) move by Acura and it pisses me off that it's done every single time the car is started!

 

yeah i really hate that warning screen. i wish there was a bypass of some sort.

 

yeah.. I have nothing better to do with those 30 seconds that i must continually fill up forum space bitching about waiting that IMMEASURABLE amount of time before my brain and car become functional. Put the damn thing in reverse and drive, by the time you get to the first stop sign you're done. the XM is already on when you start it, you can change stations with the knob or push buttons.

sheesh.

 

"put it in reverse, get out of the driveway, then drive" it should be, missed a section.

 

I've seen a similiar screens in Lexus and Jaguar cars. It's not just Acura.

 

wait so you are telling me that if i back the car out of the driveway and then start driving i do not have to push the "OK" button??

 

Actually, from what I've heard, the OK button is just there to hide the fact that the nav system takes that long to boot up anyway. Even if you didn't have to press anything, it still wouldn't come up right away. I guess it is a bit annoying to have to press it, but like Sherlock said, you can always press it after you've started driving (kind of ironic, though, since in a way they're making you do what they're telling you NOT to do)... :p

 

While I don't mind the button all that much, I think there's gotta be a way to hack the .BIN file on the DVD to take that screen completely out.

 

No, he's trying to tell you that by the time you've backed out of your driveway and driven to the first stop sign, one quick tap on the joystick will get rid of the nag screen.

 

That's an unnecessary distraction no matter how little effort it takes! Sometimes I start driving and, because of traffic or some other conditions that require my full attention, I miss the period after Ok comes up and before the screen turns off. Then it take more clicks to get it back and Oked.

 

well then if you just..

no.. i'm not going to even bother continuing..

 

Wow I created a storm from my little innocent question! Well, I enjoyed everyone's replies - the funny ones, the ironic ones, and the tech ones. If anybody figures out the .bin hack please let me know. I hear ya that it's probably a cover too for the system boot time, but still no reason for the extra OK step. I know I know I can just drive but understand I'm fully aware of the esoteric and existential nature of my interest, yet I'm still interested in it somewhat.

 

Only problem with hacking the .BIN is we need to make sure the screen stays on after the pre-programmed time out... otherwise it's kind of the same problem: you still have to hit an extra button.

 

We would also need to be able to burn dual layer dvds (the drives are coming out really soon around $300)

 

the dvd is not dual layer, its a regular dvd disc i believe.

 

Two points:

(1) It takes a little over 30 seconds for the Navi system to boot up. Acknowledgement screen or not, the system isn't going to be ready to do anything until after about 30 seconds. So, the only thing that you will be saving by getting rid of the "nag screen" is pushing the joystick once (or twice if the display has shut off). No big deal to push the little button, is it?

(2) If anyone modifies the Navi software to get rid of the nag screen, they are opening themselves up to a potential lawsuit. Not that it would happen often, but all it takes is once. Lord Knows ... we Americans seem to be a insanely litigious and greedy bunch.

I know, I know ... You say that you would never sue the cool dude who wrote you that nifty little patch code. And, you're probably right. However, what happens when your mother-in-law borrows your TL for a few days, and SHE gets in an accident while using the Navi system?

She never saw the disclaimers, and so she didn't know that she wasn't supposed to be fooling with the Navi, adjusting her destination while she was driving to get to the nearest manicurist. She gets into a nasty accident, and sues you (you never were good enough for her daughter, anyways) ... and the dude who wrote the code that got rid of the message.

It sure would be difficult to mount a credible defense, since you willfully removed the disclaimer message by modifying the standard Acura-provided DVD.

Far fetched? Maybe. But, there sure are a lot of true far-fetched stories out there.

I remember hearing one a few months ago (on Car Talk on NPR) where a guy and his girlfriend swapped cars while they were driving somewhere. The girlfriend was following him, and she was busy fooling with the radio in her boyfriend's car when ... WHAM! ... She rear-ended him, wrecking both her car and his car. The insurance companies didn't quite know how to handle this one, and said they had never heard of an accident like this before. The cars weren't the only thing that was totalled in the accident - their relationship ended not long afterwards.

 

¿GotJazz? : Those are excellent points. I hereby end my quest.
On to the next way to learn about and enjoy this amazing machine.

 

I like the nag and the OK you have to hit...

basically, in my home area if I have noplace to go special, I let it cycle and it goes off if you do not hit OK... and I dont have the nav on... which is fine sometimes... or if you want a nice dark cabin at night....

 

does the NAV system really take 30 seconds to boot? my 2002 Camry also has a built-in navigation with disclaimer screen, however i can click OK right away and there is no noticalbe lag in the system.

however, the camry has one thing that annoys me even more: you can't do a lot of navigation functions if your car is in motion AT ALL (>3 mph or so i think). although it's for your safety, it pisses me off like no other.

 

my benz had the same type of disclaimer but did not take so long to boot. so what if you have to wait a few seconds. what are you a-d-d or something. its not hurting anything and no one needs to get to a map THAT fast anyway. for its usefulness its worth the bother but then it doesnt bother me at all.

 

I agree, GotJazz has the points. This nag screen is not only getting rid of some potential lawsuits to car makers or owners, but also covering up this boot-up time. Usually, when I drive out of my garage, it's the right time to press OK... even though I don't press it on time, I can do it anytime when I want.

IMO, it's just OK... you will get used to it.

 

Its not that we need our Navi that fast, but still:

1. Yes, when I want to program in an address, I don't want to sit in my garage waiting for 20 seconds.

2. The warning screen is great, the first time. Do I need to be reminded again and again and again....? No.

3. Why not warn against more things (in addition to the annoying air bag stickers and navi screen)...

Don't speed
Obey all traffic laws
Don't drive and talk on your cell...
etc.

We could have a twenty minute boot up before the car will go into gear so that we can read or listen to a list of warnings.

The point is, if the warning is there that long only so the Navi can boot up, great. If its there so I have to be annoyed every time I start my car, its stupid, and only encourages people to PLAY WITH THE NAVI WHILE DRIVING, the very thing one is not supposed to do.

(BTW, I still love the navi and my TL)

 

Actually, I'd be happier if the system booted up to show the audio first and then if you switched over to NAV, you'd get that stupid splash screen the first time. The audio portion boots up quicker than the NAV, so the net impression would be a faster overall boot time (even though it might not be). As it stands now, I need to wait for NAV to boot, give me the splash screen that I need to OK before I can cut over to the audio display, since most of the time I don't want the NAV map showing anyway.

 

:lol1: Oh that is funny!!!!! :lol1:

 

Mother-in-law borrowing the TL?

Hope it will start...cause it's going to be a cold day in...

 

Oh, it will still start...and then flatspot like crazy...

 

It sure seems to take 30 seconds or so. I've tried a couple of variations on boot-up, and they all end up somewhere between 25 and 45 seconds.

This may be because of the Alpine design of a DVD-based system. If the system always "boots" from the DVD drive instead of a hard disk, the DVD has to start spinning and stablize its speed from a cold start (about 5-10 seconds for that alone). Then, it would load the operating system from the DVD if (assuming it isn't stored in flash memory). Not too hard to imagine that it takes 30 or so seconds to load up then.

 

start car. screen comes on. seat belt on. put in gear and back out. close garage. get to sidewalk and look. finally into street. how much time does this all take and subtract it from the boot screen. still its not a problem even if youre in a parking lot and have nothing to do.

 

You're missing the point completely! :banghead:

Choose between these two options:

1. Disclaimer comes on when the system is started, Ok button appears 30 seconds later. You push the Ok button and the system immediatelly shows you the map.

2. Disclaimer comes on when the system is started, Ok button appears IMMEDIATELLY. You push the Ok button and the system shows Acura logo while it's continuing to boot up.

Don't tell me that ANYONE in their right mind would select option number 1 over option number 2. Acura could've just as easily implemented the second option. That's why I'm pissed off at them. Is it clear now?

 

If its anything like the MDX (tL on order) I wish it would go to the map after hitting OK. The MDX takes you to a menu and you need to hit the map button to get the map.

As for the OK button, it would be nice if it popped up earlier but I have lived with it for the last 11 months and it's had no negative impact on my life yet.

 

Just a thought.

I'm waiting for delivery of my Anthracite/Ebony/5AT/Nav and am finding this thread interesting.

My thoughts would be that this wait was good regardless.

I would wait for about a minute after ignition anyway so that the fluids in my car can come up in temps a bit and redistribute. Wouldn't this wait be good for the car anyway?

 

The 03 TL's navi worked as you described, but the 04 goes straight to the map after hitting OK.

 

I use the time it takes for the OK button to appear to let my engine warm up a bit, especially first thing in the morning. While waiting, I get my seat belt on, dig out my sun glasses, and whatever else I need to do. Then when the nav is done with its startup, I hit OK, put it in gear, and go.

I use this as a feature (but yes, I do wish it wasn't there)!