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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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It seems when someone talks back to me via bluetooth, the speakers crackle. Lowering the volume only seems to lower the crackling. Stereo sound has no problems, just when its in Bluetooth mode.Brought to Dealer, they hear it also,coming out of all front speakers. Any suggestions?
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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I have this problem as well. I have the SE T616 phone.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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Which phone do you have? With my SE T616, I hear some minor distortion occasionally, but nothing particularly annoying...
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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I have the T 616 also. The dealer next time wants to try my phone to another car and see what happens. I seem to think its something in the speaker system, not the phone itself.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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Using the Siemans s56 it works perfect. Sound like a phone issue
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:57 PM
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The sound that you hear is most likely some DIGITAL processing noise in the cell phone system, not in the car.

The car audio system is much better quality than the phone earpiece, so now you can hear it.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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The early Sony Ericsson T610/616's had a bluetooth static problem. This was a well known issue amongst people that were anticipating this SE phone, and has been discussed in several cell phone forums (definately at howard chui).
I am not sure if an update to the firmware fixed all the bt static, or if it was a change to the hardware.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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I have the t616 and have the static also. Can some check to see if there is a firm ware update?
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 03:43 AM
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Old Dec 8, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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I have a 6310i and hear the same crackling.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Re: Speakers Crackling With Bluetooth

Hmm. I don't have a Bluetooth phone yet, but when I push the HFL button on the steering wheel and say, "dial 5551212", the system comes back to me with a message that sounds something like, "No phones have been pared. Returning to the main menu."

The funny thing is that I do hear the crackling in the speakers during that announcement!

Does anyone have this?


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It seems when someone talks back to me via bluetooth, the speakers crackle. Lowering the volume only seems to lower the crackling. Stereo sound has no problems, just when its in Bluetooth mode.Brought to Dealer, they hear it also,coming out of all front speakers. Any suggestions?
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Here are some links to howard forums where they discuss the bluetooth static/crackle problem:

SE T616 problems?

BT Crackle

T616 and jabra bluetooth static

New T616 firmware (might fix bluetooth)

If you do a search on the site, you can find more. Apparently most early adopters of the T610 have experienced the bluetooth problem. But not many T616 users have.
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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i'm getting that too...i have the T610 with Tmobile...it doesn't happen all the time, only sometimes...so i am assuming it's something wrong with the service from Tmobile...but what really pissess me off is the microphone...i find myself YELLING at the darn thing at times when it can't recognize what i say...i need to have them put a new microphone....but besides that, i love the system...very helpful....
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Old Dec 9, 2003 | 11:13 PM
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Might be battery

There are a LOT of BT forums out there guys. Just do a simple search and you will find them. One issue with these newer cell phones is battery life. The batteries on these GSM phones are small (because they can be) but when they start loosing juice, the quality of the BT connection can get pretty weak (poor signal to the BT antenna I guess).
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 12:06 AM
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Originally posted by csrx
The early Sony Ericsson T610/616's had a bluetooth static problem. This was a well known issue amongst people that were anticipating this SE phone, and has been discussed in several cell phone forums (definately at howard chui).
I am not sure if an update to the firmware fixed all the bt static, or if it was a change to the hardware.
Sounds like reasonable... my 610 has slightly crackling or static sound, obtained on Oct from T-Mobile. Maybe all of you have tried this: I always shut it off and turn back on each time if this takes place. This usually help... for my case...

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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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When I started this thread, some people are getting the impression that its like a static issue which its not. It`s more like if someone was talking into an over powered mic with an underpowered speaker. A crackle that happens with certain voice tones from the person speaking
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by danno
When I started this thread, some people are getting the impression that its like a static issue which its not. It`s more like if someone was talking into an over powered mic with an underpowered speaker. A crackle that happens with certain voice tones from the person speaking
Right, I don't have problems for all the calls, but some of them do have some background noise... it could be the source of who you talk to.
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What I`ve found when it happens is when I hear a telephone answering recording or someone talking to me on their cell phone
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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What's the latest on this issue? Has anyone followed it through to a solution? Does the Siemens S56 do this?

I picked up a T616 tonight (3 of them actually), and am not happy with the crackling and the distortion (I get both). There are definitely two distinct issue - distortion and crackling.

Anyone know how to obtain a firmware upgrade to the T616?
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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I've never noticed such a thing with my Siemens S56.

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Old Dec 26, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Originally posted by svtmike
I've never noticed such a thing with my Siemens S56.

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And I have never had a problem with my Sony T616 either, so it must be certain phones, but certainly not all of them.
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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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I just noticed this issue for the first time with my SE T608 yesterday. It was the first time I had put the phone into the armrest bin with a car charger connected. Depending on how I shifted, the location of my arm seemed to make the staic come and go.

I decided that it was me blobking the Bluetooth signal between the handet and the car. Does anyone know where the Bluetooth antenna is in the car so I can just relocate the phone there?

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Old Dec 29, 2003 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by youngmic
What's the latest on this issue? Has anyone followed it through to a solution? Does the Siemens S56 do this?

I picked up a T616 tonight (3 of them actually), and am not happy with the crackling and the distortion (I get both). There are definitely two distinct issue - distortion and crackling.

Anyone know how to obtain a firmware upgrade to the T616?

http://www.globalmob.com/cart/customer/home.php?cat=55
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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same problem

sounds like the speaker that the voice is coming out of can't handle the volume. works better when I turn it down but very frustrating. Anyone have tips on how to get a clearer signal
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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I have both a T616 (old firmware) and an S56. The T616 crackles and the S56 doesn't. Also, callers on the other end say my voice is clearer when using the S56. I've sent the T616 to have the firmware upgraded and should have it back soon. I'll see if the newer firmware fixes the crackling.
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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I have the T616 as well, lots of crackling...
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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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I agree with Danno and Audinomore: this complaint does not appear to be with the BT connection or a specific phone.

Those problems may exist. However, this sounds like the speaker is clipping or something in the speaker rattles when the party on the other end talks. Turning it down doesn't seem to provide significant relief.

It sounds more "physical" (clipping, rattle) than the distortion or echos previously described.
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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I haven`t had time to bring it back to the dealer. Anybody else moving forward with this?
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:12 PM
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Where does everyone stand on the crackling issues with the SE616???
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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TESLA, any progress with the upgrade on the phone?
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by danno
TESLA, any progress with the upgrade on the phone?
I got the phone back from globalmob.com with the new firmware. I've been extremely busy lately and have not really had a chance to do a thouough comparison of the updated T616 vs the S56. I should have a chance over the next few days and I will definitely report back to this forum.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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I have the crackling too. But not all the time. I hear more when I am making a call and you here it ringing. once I connect I don't here it anymore.
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Old Jan 29, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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I too am going to send my phone out for the new firmware; to the same place as Tesla[/B]. I have the first version of the firmware(RA1054); I believe there have been 2 upgrades. I bought my phone on 28 November; you would think it would come with the newest version.

They say the new firmware helps hold a signal better; scrolls through the M-mode faster; and has Bluetooth upgrades. All will be welcome addititions. My phone gets the re-verb/crackling also; turning down the volume on the phone seems to help a little.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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The updated firmware seems to significantly improve the crackling problem on the T616, in addition to providing impoved RF peformance overall. I think sound quality through the S56 is still better, but not by much.
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The updated firmware seems to significantly improve the crackling problem on the T616, in addition to providing impoved RF peformance overall. I think sound quality through the S56 is still better, but not by much.
Time to buy a new keyboard. I seem to be missing a few "r"'s !
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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Anybody know if a new T616 will have the upgraded firmware? I can always return the phone within 30 days I guess.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:05 AM
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How do you get a T610/616 to tell you the firmware level? (and what's the current latest?, previous?) - thanks.
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Anybody know if a new T616 will have the upgraded firmware? I can always return the phone within 30 days I guess.
Just got a new T616 from AT&T. It has the latest firmware (R1B...)
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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How do you get a T610/616 to tell you the firmware level? (and what's the current latest?, previous?) - thanks.
Using the joystick and the keypad you will need to press:

Right * Left Left * Left *

to get into the service menu. Next click on service info and then Software information.
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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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My SE T608 exhibits none of the issues described. People I've talked to from the car give me feedback that they can tell it's a speakerphone, but sound quality is fine, no problems hearing or understanding me from their end, and it always sounds fine to me. Since BT significantly accelerates battery drain, I usuallyhook it up to a power cord and leave it in the cup holder. Whether or not battery condition or phone location has an influence on sound quality, I do not know. I turned on BT on the way back to the car once yesterday, then forgot and left the phone in my pocket, made a call enroute, and it sounded fine also.

I do think the BT/HFL feature is an underrated, significant safety feature, particularly for a 6MT car. Anything that keeps a driver's eyes on the road at all times gets my vote.
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