In the "3G TL Service Department (AKA: "THE GARAGE"): Questions & Answers- CHECK HERE FIRST!" sticky thread I read about Driveline Vibration - 5th gear/1500 RPM/50-60 MPH in Most Common Issues/Questions. But those links are already dead.
And I have this issue. Explain me please the reason.

 

Go to the death link, copy the entire address bar, paste to google and perform a search.


Boom the thread is revive again.

 

Oh! Wow! The thread is not revive again, but it helped me to find an information! Thank you so much!

 

you are welcome, that what happened when you hang around this forum since the car was new.

 

+1 for the tip, lots of lost threads to explore.

What was the forum culture like when the 3G were new?

In 2008 I was still hanging out on Rennlist despite having sold my 928S, and was active on a couple Z31 300ZX forums because I had one. Never been part of a forum for new cars with warranties and dealers and such. Must have been cool to see companies coming out with new performance parts for the 3G.

 

When the car was new everyone was so involved, people had meet like twice a week for local folks, modding game is at it finest, nice rim set up, coil/airbag, no matter how expensive the part was people spend money to get it, car break down and some DIY some did warranty work and they all share data, pricing.

If you need technical data a lot peoples willing to scan the service manual book pages to help out.

Now? people complaining a set of Osram CBI $90 is too much, never mind about spending money maintaining their car. Sockr1 can vouch for this matter as I feel the 3g TL turn into 90 civic.

 

Yeah 3G TL is now 10-15+ years old, most cars probably on their 2nd to 3rd++ owners who are likely not able to afford the car when it was new so definitely more griping about cost. Plus lot of the OGs have moved on (as clearly seen here in the Car Talk section of former TL owners) and so the enthusiasm is not as great and newbies will ask questions that still get some replies.

Bitter sweet I guess.

 

Second owner checking in here; yeah, the 3G TL is not inexpensive to properly maintain, that said, the platform has proven to be very robust and reliable (and ultimately not a huge drain on the wallet), IF properly maintained. For someone of limited means buying a fifteen year old TL, the car will most likely become a money pit in fairly short order.

 

Sounds very strange. Now when the car is 10-15 years old, its owners became meet issues more often. It means the activity on this forum has to raise up. When I owned an over20 years old Mercedes-Benz SLK, I saw its owners were in a very friendly international community. And they have the same activity as you said, but talking not about "modding game is at it finest, nice rim set up, coil/airbag" but about getting their cars like new again. Because when you have a new car, you want it to be different and you're making some mods. And when you own an old one, you want your car will be different looking like a new one.

 

The good ole days is gone now, only a handful user that still left in the 3g TL section as I remember from 2007. I tried to group up with old folks when I bought the KBP from Kansas city but none of you guy was around, particular you and MR. Steven Bell.



Well this is the dilemma people buying used car, after all this is a glorified Honda Accord. Mostly these parts are interchangeable and if you could get a hold of OEM supplier part then its even cheaper than buy Accord part, 90% of the work on the TL could be DIY with limit of mechanical skill or knowledge. What people fail to realize is they are too focus on a initial purchase price.

Example Horses paid $XXXXX, he over paid. I paid $2500 for mine TL I got a killer deal, but what they fail to realize your car might need a clutch and axles other than that nothing major wrong. In the meanwhile that person has a crap ton to mechanical issue to deal with which could be quickly add up or exceeding your purchase price.




Lol if you been here long enough you will get the idea, more issue thread often? yes but image how you will deal with

"what the average MPG?"
"what oil should I used"
"new to the TL, how do I force induction my TL"
"how do I streaming music via BTA on my TL"
"what is the best brake can I used"
"Just got my TL, where do I purchase Aspec lip"

and the list goes on and on....

Horseshoez how often does these thread emerged?


If you type in Google search bar and ask whatever topic you looking for, Chance there are bunch of threads that already covered for the same topic you looking for (that same goes for any car forum). This is why I don't get upset when people revived an old thread because its shows me that he/she did the research. However if whoever buying a used TL and $100 part is too expensive for them, I would recommend they get rid of the car and either buy a new luxury sedan or buy a used economy car. And FYI I never mod my car when it was newish nor do anything ultra special to it when its old, my OG TL-S is pretty much looks and drive the same if not better than when I first took delivery.

 

Oh nice, KBP from KC?! That's my old/current stomping grounds. I actually met up with Anil(swoosh) soon after I got my base 06 TL and he helped me do some maintenance stuff and he was storing Steven Bell's red C7 in his garage and I checked out his TL which was pretty badass. And this was like ~4 years ago and he (Anil) said he was already being too busy with life and the Acura community was drifting apart. I think I attended an Acura meetup long time ago at Jay Wolfe Acura in KC way back then and was hoping to go to more but meets stopped happening as I'm sure people moved on from the cars and from the scene. It's cool though living in KC since I do hear Steve Bell's voice on the local classic radio, I think he DJs on weekends....

I don't consider myself any type of OG at all...since I was a 2nd owner of the TL and I'm too damn cheap to really take care of mine which I still drive but it is a beater now and needs bit of work, cosmetically, to make it look nice again. I would've bought a 3G TL-S had I known more about the car before I bought it.

Good thing is that I'm in a much better financial situation so...now I'm debating if I should move on from the TL and get either a 3G TL-S....or something different....

 

Oddly enough, my 2001 Accord proved to be MUCH more expensive to maintain than my TL, but yeah, your point is well taken.

Yup, I seriously "over paid", but other than the clutch and the rather tired OEM axles, the car was extremely well maintained and rust free. After looking at so many cars, I was actually happy to over pay; go figure.

Yeah, and my jaded "old-guy" attitude says, "Yup, another Facebook kid with a TL wanting to turn it into a Ferrari beater."


Quoted for truth.

 

Yes, I know how annoying could be the newbies. I was on your side and can understand you. But now I am a newbie and I am on the other side. And I understand the newbies too. It was very good idea to create The 3G TL Garage: FAQ for 3G TL Newbies..... But information can getting older. And this thread may have not actual information and dead links. Just like with my research about having USB adapter for the stock stereo system. Many devices recommended in those threads which you can find on the forum are often discontinued by their manufacturers or there are new devices with advanced functionality. It would be so nice if someone could update that sticky thread and we could give a links from it for answering on these annoying questions from newbies.

However people will always try to use a less resistance way and have direct answers on their direct questions without any research. We don't like to read the bunch of threads that already covered for the same topic

 

As long as you showed that you did research and the link is broken. I am happily to help, I did that to one of your thread right? sadly the youngsters (majority) of TL owner these day love using the social media platform as they expect the info come almost instant just like some one like/love their post, Online forum platform starting to slowly fading out because it involve in heavy reading to acquire information.



Only few of us OG left in the 3G section and we have seen all kind of trend that happen on a TL so we can help, but first the person need to show that they did the research and did not get an answer.

 

Having been a contributing member of several internet car forums since 2001, and visited many others, I know well the things they have in common:

- The dislike of newbies making new threads to ask same basic question (that's always clearly answered in a sticky thread) over and over again. "What wheels will fit?" Is flipping universal.

- The group-think certainty about x.is good and y.is bad, and always a few contrary dissenters who are out-numbered yet fly their freak-flag proudly.

- Endless, endless, endless arguements about oil. On Rennlist these threads ran to a hundred pages and included deep engineering analysis amongst the armchair expertz and mud-slingers.

- Scammers in the for sale sections.

- Girls get driven off by leg-humpers or stay for the attention, or in rare cases get the leg-humpers banned with clever baiting and become high-status members of the community.

- The one or two guys who spent $$$$ to modify their car beyond belief and hold the dyno/laptime/et records.

- The one or two guys who develop a hoarding tendency and own way too many beat-up old examples of the car. Often they morph into major sellers of parts and SME on every mechanical task too. In rare cases the guy has money and collects way too many super clean rare options/color combo examples of the car and swims in a pool of everyone's jealous tears.

- Trolls.

Some forums get a lot of big fragile egos and become flamewar zones. There was a Viper forum that was insane for this, every thread was a battleground. I was all up in RX7club at the time and we would go over there to spectate and troll them a bit as it was too easy.

Some forums take the group-think too far and are extremely unwelcome to newbies who don't immediately adopt the rigid beliefs. These forums just die off after a few years.

My last car was a 2008 Nissan Sentra SER Spec-V. It never sold well, and many of the ones sold got crashes out while new. So by 2019, the forums are nearly dormant due to lack of members and nearly all the aftermarket had dried up. It was sad.

This forum is pretty good. It appears to have very good moderation, which is extremely important for the health of a forum. There's a delicate balance between correcting poor/ignorant behavior and ruling with an iron fist, and speaking as a former mod for a work-software forum I think the mods here are doing an excellent job. The culture itself seems about average for import cars that need DIY, lots of very good How To threads and helpful members, without too much negative behavior- although I'm sure there's a history of drama as all forums have some sooner or later.

I absolutely love my TL-S and plan to stay. Catzilla pwns you all!

 

 

Yeah I pick up the KBP in KC from a 19 years old college student, well I am not sure if Independence/ Grain Valley consider KC lol. Which side of the city you guy on? KS or MO? I see a lot of 3g TL over there but too many enthusiast like us back in the day, the previous owner family bought several Acura from Jay Wolfe Acura lol. He even surprise asking me how did I know about the meet that happened back in the day at Jay Wolfe Acura.

 

Yeah! It is so sad! Online forums must be alive. They hold a huge amount of precious cataloged information. Where Google will do his search if there will be no more forums?

​​​​​​​What does the "OG" mean?

 

Great knowledge! Awesome! Thanks for sharing.

 

OG mean "Original Gang" or in my term "Original Group" indicate veteran member who contribute to the forum. Most DIY thread OP already moving to something newer and more powerful as Acura had slacked since 2009.

 

The TL's are far & few these days. I hardly ever see one & when I do they look like they were neglected & in bad shape. I never see a TLS either. I'm at 171,000 on my 07 Type S but the engine seems like its getting tired.

 

Hmmm. In my city I see many TL. Only on my street there are 4 TL!

 

Hmmm, getting tired after only 171,000 miles? For J30, J32, and J35 engines, that is barely broken in; has your engine been abused?