Anyone has good experience using Shell V-power gasoline? I was told that it would increase your gas mileage + better performance.

 

my friend says shell get there gas from the bottom of the gas holder thing, so you get all the dirty stuff with your gas. he says only cheveron and exxon get it from the top. but i dont know if thats true but ive been gettin more mpg with cheveron then shell. just my opinion.

 

Chevron's gas has a real weird additive that hasn't made any of my cars or friends/family's cars perform well. V-Power is the way to go. I know Mazda recommends Shell V-Power and when I took my car (98 Accord v6) to service, my service advisor said the same thing. Now judging from what xlilbluux said...I would say he's just naive and hasn't passed the fast and the furious stage yet so there must be room for NOS.

btw, if there was anything such as "dirty gas," government regulations keep oil companies in check and if it is so true, link me to your source. thanks.

 

All I use is V-Power. I get 25/26MPG on the highway while driving 80+MPH. I like it. I buy my beer at the same Shell station.

 

didnt they close down like 500 hundred shell stations like a couple months ago? it was said to mess up your mileage meter to tell u that u did...250/tank but when u actully on went like 200 miles? any1 heard of this?

 

I can't tell much difference between Shell and Costco gas. Third choice is Union 76. All three work well with 23 MPG in city and 30 on the hwy going 70 in the TL.

Waaaay too many unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo here guys. Save the innuendo for Prep H!

 

Yes, in Florida. It was one shipment of bad gas isolated to a small area there. It was a while ago, and they caught it immediately, so I wouldn't be too concerned.

The error was a build up of some kind of intert gas that made your gas gauge indicate your tank was full when it was empty. That was all, it didn't cause any real damage from what I remember.

I got turned on to V Power when the press release came out from Chevron saying it was preferred for BMW/Toyota vehicles. A friend told me the gas that would likely qualify, or was the closest things since we don't have Chevron out here was VPower.

I started using it 2 weeks ago in my Accord, and its made a noticable difference in accelleration and idle stability. I'd reccommend it, but I found a station that sells it for 2 cents over what the generic is sold for, so I just go there.

 

LOL!

Just filled up (my 2nd tank!) with V-Power yesterday... Will try and pay attention to the drive/mileage compared with the first tank (Chrevron). I buy my beer at Von's though.

 

Haven't tried V-Power yet. But so far, NOTHING I've tried comes close to the power of BP Amoco Ultimate 93. Even Sunoco Ultra 93 doesn't give my TL as much power.
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i've been getting great miles with chevron supreme...and every wed and sun, 5 cents off!

 

Amoco Ulitmate is just that. The ultimate in gasoline. It definetly cant be beat!

 

I noticed an increase in mileage as well. On the V-Power tanks I went a full 30 to 40 miles farther than I normally do on Hess/BP (all large reputable dealers). I switched back and forth for a few weeks then did V-Power for two weeks and still got 30 to 40 miles more on V-Power.

V-Power is said to have 5 times more additives than the competitors so I agree that it is probably the closest thing to Chevron with Techron.

 

I doubt it produces any more power - i has just barly enough detergents, so if it cleans some dirty induction parts,it could provide a return to new performance but no more.

Chevron is the only other ajor that has kept decent levels of detergents in their premium gas - it still is adequate IMO, which is why i routinely use one of the cleaners when i covered this topic in The RR Journals

V-power to me is like a dentist saying he is no longer causing pain - that's nice, but he should never have in the 1st place. The Govt ordered MINIMUM lvels of detergency have not been kept up by the mfr's, so thgis to me reeks of being a hype for omething Shell should have done anyway.

Besides, thyy are foreign owned, and by Royalty no less - I keep using Chevron, than you very much. Up with the People!!!!!!

 

damn, they have Beer? the Shell by my house doesn't even sell cigarettes

 

Chevron all the way. Shell is full of marketing crap.

 

Yeah, In Kentucky you can buy beer just about anywhere. It's odd to me when I travel that I can't ever find any drive thru liquor stores like we have here. Even odder is that out of Kentucky's 120 counties, over 100 of them are dry. But, we make all the Bourbon here.

P.S. Quit smoking cigarettes and start smoking something we also have a lot of in Kentucky

 

I've been running Mobil premium in the car. Just put in a tank of V Power - had a $2 off coupon - and haven't noticed one bit of difference so far.

 

i use a gas station 5 min away from my house...hmm, i just blanked out and have no idea what the name is. Anyways, its good gas, i get 23mpg in the city and got 36mpg on te highway 4 days ago; my car only has 1,200miles on it.

 

Chevron gas around here stinks when burning (ie the smell coming out of the exhaust). It smells like sulpher.

It may be better for the engine, but it still stinks. I get 5% off gas at shell, so that's what I used. That and the shell refinery is in houston, so 90% of the gas around here comes from there wherever you buy it. The only difference is (supposedly) the additives.

 

Hmmm, you all are making me become concerned about my gas mileage. Some of the numbers above, like 36MPG on the highway, must be over a short distance will very little throttle.

I went from Louisville to St Louis and back last weekend. It was almost 600 miles. Over the course of the entire trip I got 25MPG. All highway miles.

Now is that low? It seemed reasonable to me. Is it my driving style? Could be, I stayed at or above 80MPH the entire time (except for the occaisonal left lane blocker ). Or, is it my choice of gasoline (V-Power)?

I hope that the high numbers above are from a short trip and not a long trip. That would be outstanding if it was a long trip but, I'd have trouble believing it.

What kind of mileage are you all getting over the course of several hundred miles? If it's 30 or more, I'd like to know why I don't get that good of mileage.

 

Sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but gas is gas. It all comes from the same refineries, almost all owned by private refiners. Where they are oil company owned, they all buy from each other. I saw an expose' some time ago in the Bay Area where reporters followed name brand oil company tankers. They ALL picked up their gas at the Benecia refinery, a privately owned company. By ALL, I mean Shell, Chevron, BP, Rotton Robbies, Costco, etc. As for additives like Techron, V-Power, there was clear evidence that the Chevron driver crawled up to the top of the tanker and poured a quart sized bottle of something into the 10,000 gallon tank. If you think this small amount of additive is going to make a difference in 10,000 gallons, you are delusional. Techron and V-Power are the modern day equavilents of Buick Dynaflo. Bottom line, buy your gas at the least expensive station. Just don't fill up when a tanker is filling the station's tanks. Gas mileage is determined on how you drive rather than gasoline brand.
DOMINO

 

I used the V-Power gas in my last fillup. I noticed no difference in gas milage or performance.

 

I noticed the V-Power makes a substantial difference in accleration in the 99 Maxima but i can't tell the differece from shell/cheveron in the TL

 

So that means that is no difference between Arco /USA gas and Chevron/ Shell gas??? Interesting!!!

 

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble domino, but believe it or not, you wish you had BP Amoco Ultimate 93 in AZ. I believe all other brands are likely to be the same s**t as you described because my TL has the same power on all of them. But THERE IS a difference. The Amoco Ultimate power increase was just as noticable on my '89 Accord. Chevron doesn't exist here in NY and our Premiums are 93 octane, not 91...don't know why that is

With all the other shooting matches going on in other threads on which is faster and who can beat who in a TL versus a G35, I could care less. But I wouldn't think twice on betting big $$$$ on a 6MT TL in such a race with BP Amoco Ultimate 93 running through its veins. Hope you get the chance to drive one one day.

I wonder how many here really know what a Buick Dynaflow is. My '63 Riviera (RIP) had one.

 

well rite now i fill up on regular gas since the accord doesnt deserve premium cause of the races i lost. but ill try the premuim from cheveron and vpower from shell whenever i get the TL .

 

I challenge anyone to find a difference in gasoline on the dyno! Unless the stations are passing off regular as premium (news reports about 10% of the time) or you can cross the border between oxygenated (ethanol or MTBE) and non-oxygenated gasoline areas (about 4% mileage penalty), you will not notice any difference.

 

If you pay for the dyno runs, I'll be more than happy to ask my friend in town for his TL. Another friend owns a shop with a dyno so I'm set...just need funding for dyno runs.

 

You obviously haven't ever experienced a root canal performed by my esteemed dentist. Does the job with no gas and minimal numbing juice. Worth the drive in your TL from Virginia to Washington. And after the job we'll party on with the likes of ice cubes, peanut butter and corn nuts!

 

any comments on exxon gas? speedpass is awesome

 

Domino is absolutely correct. Much of the East Coast is fed from refineries in Houston, with an oil pipeline also originating in Houston. This pipeline connects to tank farms in Atlanta, Knoxville (I think), somewhere in the Carolinas, a few more tank farms, and ends up in New Jersey. The pipeline is boosted by huge pumps, and when a tank farm needs to fill up some of their tanks, they instruct a main office in Atlanta to send x million gallons of kerosene, diesel, low, mid, or super gas down the pipes which they tap off of. (I recall the pipeline is about 36" or 40" in diameter, so it's capable of sending huge volumes.) Once the fuel is in one of their tank farm tanks, then tanker trucks from all gasoline retailers load up with the same fuel. The only difference is a small amount of additive the tank truck driver adds to his truck.

Look up "Colonial Pipeline" on the web, or follow this link:
http://www.colpipe.com/ab_map.asp

Look at all the companies using products from this very pipeline:

Agway Petroleum Corp.
Air BP, Division of BP Oil Company
Amerada Hess Corporation
American Airlines, Inc
Apex Oil Company
Astra Oil Co., Inc.
Atlantic Trading & Marketing
Atofina Petrochemicals Inc.
BP North America Petroleum, Inc.
BP Oil Company
British Airways, PLC
Cargill, Incorporated Petroleum Trading
Center Oil Company
Chalmette Refinery
Charter-Triad Terminals, LLC
Chevron USA, Inc.
ChevronTexaco Global Trading
CHS, Inc
CITGO Petroleum Corp.
ConocoPhillips
Continental Airlines Fuel Mgmt.,Inc
Crown Central Petroleum Co.
Cummins Terminal, Inc.
Department Of Defense
Duke Energy Merchants
El Paso Merchant Energy
Energy Merchant LLC
Epsilon Trading Inc.
Equiva Trading
ExxonMobil Oil Corporation
Flint Hills Resources
George E. Warren Corporation
Glencore Ltd
Global Companies LLC
Gulf Oil Limited Partnership
Hess Energy Trading Company, LLC
Hunt Refining Co.
Itochu Petroleum Japan
J. Aron & Company
Kinder Morgan Energy
Koch Petroleum Group LP
Lion Oil Company
Louis Dreyfus Energy Services, LP
Lyondell-Citgo Refining Company Ltd
Maples Gas Company, Inc.
Marathon Ashland Petroleum Co. LLC
Metroplex Energy Inc
Mieco Inc. New York
Mieco Product Services LP
Morgan Stanley Capital Group, Inc.
Morgan Stanley Orion
Motiva
Murphy Oil USA, Inc.
Musket Corporation
NIC Holding Corp
NWA Fuel Services Corp.
Parker Oil Company, Inc.
Petrocom Energy Group Ltd
Petrolea Oil Corp.
Petroleum Traders Corporation
Phibro Inc.
Pilot Corporation
Placid Refining Company
Premcor Refining Group Inc
Quiktrip Corp.
Rwe Trading Americas, Inc
Sheetz Inc
Shell Oil Products US
Shell Trading
Societe Generale Energie (USA) Corp
South Padre Energy, LTD
Southern States Cooperative, Inc.
Southwest Airlines
Sprague Energy Corporation
Statoil Marketing & Trading (US)
Sun Refining & Marketing
Tauber Oil Co.
Taylor Oil Co.
Trafigura AG
Trammo Petroleum, Inc
Transmontaigne
Truman Arnold
United Airlines
United Parcel Service
US Airways, Inc
Valero Marketing And Supply
Valley Oil Company, LLC
Vitol S.A., Inc.
WAWA Incorporated
Western Petroleum Co
Williams Energy Marketing And Trading
World Fuel Services

 

I agree with all you wrote except the salient point - the amount of detergent additives, whicxh is the real difference between the fuels (at least what i have been posting). But since addtives levels are measured in PPM, it is entirely possible that a jug of highly concentrated Techron added by the driver can make for a reasonable effect on 10,000 gallons. Proper titration can certainly be effected by what the driver adds. But it certainly supports my posts and my selection of Chevron fuels, based on experiences with the tear downs of a lot of cylinder heads and old injectors.

This is also the reason i advise people to use a quality fuel system cleaner routinely, such as before an oil change.

 

i think this is what your askin for, im not sure, but for the accord you get better performance for regular.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...295#post299295

 

Another gas company BS. All gasolines contain enough detergents to maintain the engine clean!

 

If you want to clean your injectors and valves, buy a container of Chevron Techroline. Use it about every 6 months. I have read reviews on it years ago and it is very effective in cleaning. Shell and Chevron are the most expensive gas in my area.

 

In reply to dcarlinf1
I went upstate, which is about a 50minute drive going 65mph steady. On my way upstate i reseted my mpg clock and ended up wiht 32 when i arrived at my friends house. On my way back home, i did the same thing, and got 36 mph. On my way back i was traveling 65mph at a real steady rate, going there i had to accel/decel a few times. In the city with plenty of traffic lights i get anywhere between 20-23mpg. Your highway mpg does seem a little low to me, its only a little above my city milage.

 

To DMZ;

It wa Buick's marketing name for their automatic transmission. Chevy = PowerGlide, etc.

 

Right! Buick's automatic transmission from 1947 - 1963. It was also known as 'Twin Turbine Transmission', in the owners manuals. A 2 speed non-shifting automatic with a passing gear. Good for about 40,000 miles between rebuilds.

 

It's probably my driving style. I drive pretty fast. For example, going from St Louis to Lousiville I'd say about 2-3 cars passed me, whereas I passed at least 100, maybe more. I have a lead foot. I too have reset the trip computer while already on the highway and have gotten well over 30 MPG. but not for long. Once I even saw 44 MPG. I floored it and it dropped to 27 pretty fast. I could see 30-32 if driving a steady 65 MPH, but I can't drive that speed. I feel like I am sitting still.

 

I have filled up with Shell V Power premium twice so far this month . My station gave me coupons for $2 off a 10 gal or more purchase. I have two coupons left, but they expire at the end of this month.
I usually like Exxon or Amaco/BP Ultimate, but this Shell station was cheaper even before the coupons. Did not notice any diff in performance.