Does anyone else think that the 2006 headlights look strikingly similar to the TL headlights?

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/...me=Civic+Coupe



I don't know why I'm upset at this, but it bothers me that even if not the exact same, it sure as hell looks like the same design between the Civic and the TL.

 

I think mazdas are more similar. What bothers me is that my car says honda all over it.

 

I'd be more concerned if my $60,000 Lexus said Toyota all over it.

I'm proud to say that my TL is the cream of the Honda crop. You don't ever hear people trash talking about Hondas, do you?

It is the icon of engineering and quality both here and Japan.

You mean to say the Civic has xenon HIDs??

You even have to pay extra for those on a Mercedes-Benz.

 

I agree that hondas are good cars, but I associate the name with "cheapo." The Acura name costs us, the consumers, some money, maybe not as much as BMW or Mercedes Benz, but enough that I don't think my Acura should say Honda all over it.

 

I'd say the only thing similar between the Civic and TL's headlights is the way the side marker blends with the headlight. Other than that, I don't see the similarity. No projectors, for one thing.

I think that new Civic is quite ugly, though. It looks like a worn bar of soap to me.

 

honda, cheapo?? that's crazy talk. Cheapo is kia, hyundai or daewoo.

and the only place it says honda is on the glass :P

 

Lights too. Honda is cheapo in my book. But unlike the korean cars(not trying to make a generalization, I like samsung, i have a DLP from them: Said that to prevent flame war) hondas are actually good. I just wouldn't personnally purchase a honda, toyota, or nissan(Yes, even the 350Z) because those cars came out with an initial statement to be cheap, and I don't like the name that comes with it. I do love acuras, and give kudos to honda on that and recognize there work, I just wouldnt buy a HONDA brand car. Again, thats me, it doesnt have to make sense to you BUT I think you know where I am coming from.

I will also not buy saturns(if that makes anyone feel any better), I wont even ride in kias hyunadais(which actually arent too horrible) or daewoos.

 

Do you live in the OC?

 

Acura is a lot cooler than a honda in terms of prestige but I actually feel more confident about my acura knowing it's got a honda framework under it. All you hear about honda is how they are built like tanks and great cars. It's the best possible combo. After all infiniti is just a nissan and lexus a toyota and what have you, but out of those cars honda definitely has the best rep for durability. What acura means is a "super honda" which is just fine! Honda may not brand their some of thier best cars "honda" but that doesn't mean they aren't a damn fine company for racing and otherwise.

 

All in all it's still a honda. Acura was made because us americans have issues with classification. Acuras have honda written all over it. Look behind you bumpers and under the hoods and panels. It's just a name to make us feel like we are above someone else. Personally, I wouldn't have been as press to get a TL if we recieved the same cars they do in Japan. I would have loved to have an Inspire( accord) with HID's instead on the TL and been just as happy. Knowing that acura is still a honda makes me more comfortable drving and buying the car because i know i can still maintain and work on the car myself. The only reason i like Acura is because Honda is their parent company otherwise I would have been looking at BMW's ( which I still am for the future but would still rather go for TL to RL at the moment..distant future:P)

As for the civic, Every year a new one comes out, no one like the modifications. No one liked the bug eyes then everyone was buying hatches. No one like the 7thgen, but people still bought them( including myself) and worked on them. A challenged I would say as far as modding and booosting. And with this new one people won't like it but it will grow on them. New engines in the future to come out and backing from the aftermarket.

 

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I dont know if anyone else has kept up. but the accord has LED tail now and the rear end has been changed too. When the TL came out, it had already been said that it's rear end resembled something with an honda symbol instead of an Acura symbol. But what do you expect. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.

 

Relax, no one will mistake the Civic for a TL. If they do, laugh in their face... unless it's a cute girl, then take your time to show her the car.

At least we have it better than the Saab 9-2X... "Fuji Heavy Industries"... suckers.

BTW, top of the line Accord 3.0 V6 w/ navi = 30k. TL w/ Navi = 35k. I don't think we're paying that much "premium" for the brand at all, considering the TL has better seats, stereo system, design, suspension, BT, and so on.

EDIT: I would've bought this car even if it was badged as Honda and called Accord.

 

Is this bother u? :

 

You won't buy any car at 15 without a job. Perhaps dad, who is the one who owns the TL, should make you work and buy a car that you can afford on whatever part-time check you make - probably a Kia or a Hyundai. Speaking of Hyundai, it beat Honda and Acura in initial quality according to JD Powers and Associates.

The Honda Accord is the benchmark in sedanland. Edmunds.com calls it the 3-series of the midsize market. The TL is on the exact same platform, and despite their many differences, they share the same roots.

My experience with Honda badged cars has been far superior to that of my Acura badged one, by the way - but that won't deter me from buying another. I understand and respect Honda's brilliant engineering, dedication to safety for both passengers and pedestrians, and concern for the environment. I admire the company for what it stands for as well as its products.

I learned growing up with not much material comfort that you couldn't ask for more faithful service or a better car for any price than our Accords. They weren't glamorous, but what they did, they did very well... now, you grow up.

 

Now this is something I agree with...!! The honda of 20 years ago were bullet proof. The acuras of today leave a lot to be desired with the nagging issues they are having.

But, be light on the 15 year old whose dad went from a beat taurus to an acura. That's a big step up and they cannot tell the difference between a beater and a new car. He has no real experience from which to drawn from.

 

:gheylaugh:

 

I'm in no way bashing Hondas...sorry if it came across like that. No, the Civic doesn't have HID's. Yes, the Civic is a good value. But I still think that the headlights look like the TL's, which seems like the design team just got lazy on that aspect. Maybe the headlights stuck out to me b/c I think it's the only good looking aspect of that car.

And the comment about not buying brands because they are supposed to be "cheap" is rediculous. Almost everything between the Nissan 350Z and the Infiniti G35 coupe is shared and it is a REDICULOUS statement to say that those brands that have models that cost $40,000 are "cheap." Not everyone in the world has a money tree in their backyard.

 

If anything the new accord has resembelances with TL's posterior...

 

People on forums/message boards trip me out at times. You do realize that Acura, Lexus, Infiniti are just gimmicks in the US/Canadian markets to get more money out of us. Why is it in Japan where most of these cars are made, is it not so important to them to have a higher end name/line-up? Your $60k lexus is a Toyota in Japan as your Infinity G35 is still a Nissan Skyline in Japan. I don't care if my Acura says Honda everywhere on it. In fact I would rather it be a Honda and not a brand that only exists in North America.

PS: Isn't it your parents car anyways?

 

I have only one thing to say:

North America: Acura NSX
Japan: Honda NSX

Same car.

'nuff said.

 

When I was 15 I was the same way. I always had to have the name brand clothes and shoes because I couldn't bear to showed up to school in the Target knockoffs. Now that I'm older I seek out the non-name brands in a lot of things I buy. I've found that most are just as good as the name-brand. Once you grow up you'll realize that having the name-brand doesn't mean as much as it did when you were a kid. Saving money becomes a priority when you're an adult.

As others have pointed out the Acura name is around to stoke the egos of Americans. It obviously works on you.

 

I'm happy to see some Americans (on this forum) who don't fall for the marketing ploys... Honda obviously puts higher-quality components and better fits and finishes in their Acuras, but they are still Hondas, and I'm SOOO proud to be driving a Honda! If it was called the Honda TL, it would still be in my driveway.

 

I'm not so sure about the higher-quality components and better fits and finishes in the Acuras. It's hard to beat perfection, which is what 5/6 of my Accords were.

 

I guess what I meant by that was the trim and features... things like that. The Acuras LOOK more expensive than the Hondas... that's done on purpose obviously.

 

I've just had a bad experience with an Acura-branded car and many, many positive experiences with Honda-branded ones.

 

Quote: Do you live in the O.C?
New England Equivalent, Newton, though I am probably the least spoiled in the city, A few kids at our school have TLs, one a TL and WRX-STI, and we(the highschool) also have an slk500.

As far as being able to afford my own car, I have a job at a bike shop and plan to spend about 1-2k on a used Integra(will last longer than a new kia, even without the warrenty, plus there are tons of JDM parts on ebay for about 5-10 bucks, im gonna rice it up).

I admit I will only go for the "name" and I aknowledge hondas are great cars. I just see it as they being marketed as cheap(not neccesarily bad), and that not being my styles. Again I will not buy nissan, toyota, honda, kia, hyundai, daewoo(I wouldn't by any korean car since not only are they marketed as cheap, they fall apart), volkswagen, even the american saturn. I know I have horrible values, but hey, thats me.

My father wouldn't even keep the 600 dollar taurus for me cause I didn't have the money to pay him for it.

If the TL had the Honda name I wouldnt have gotten it, but if the s2000 had the acura name, I would. Just my reasoning.

 

Thats because you're immature.

 

Well, Crazy: INCOMING!

"There is nothing so sad as condemnation before investigation." I heard that once and remembered it. Actually, it is the essence of bias and prejudice.

You could be talking about Kia's, black people, gays, Muslims, or escargot. The principle is the same.

A more vernacular version would be "Don't knock it if you haven't tried it."

In today's stressful world, especially when you're a teen, it is easier to latch on to an accepted status symbol than to take the time and effort to evaluate a product for yourself. But, even in this climate of peer pressure, there are sheep and there are shepherds.

Shepherds are the trend setters who do investigate something, have the boldness to choose what they like based on inherent qualities, and then lead the sheep to it. They project confidence and people follow them.

Throw in the snob factor now. People with lots of discretionary money don't want to investigate every purchase, so they either get the same thing that the Astorbiches got or they just pick based on the highest price. These folks will often be heard to say, "You get what you pay for." The salesmen just love to see them coming. Especially the BMW and Mercedes salesmen.

I like to think shepherds drive Acuras/Hondas, Infinitis/Nissans, and Lexus/Toyotas.

There's another saying. "If you get an outfit you can be a cowboy too." Or, if you want to have the same status as the Astorbiches of Nantucket, just buy the same brands (outfits) that they do.

It's unfortunate that many young people today are 3rd and 4th generation label chasers. Or maybe not. In a way, it's kind of a hidden tax which redistributes the wealth from the rich to the not-so-rich. So maybe it serves a good social purpose after all.

 

So, I am a label chaser, big deal. There must be one other person hear who knows where I am coming from. Again, I am not prejuding a car, I know hondas are great, I just don't want to be associated with a cheap car(even though not all are). It is snobish, and it doesnt make much sense, but its the way I feel about things. Prejudging cars is different than prejudging people. In addition Acura is somewhat of a status symbol over just plane Honda(dont flame for that remark please), And I am very very high on myself, and like the feeling of pulling up in something thought of as more than neccesary. It makes me feel good.

On another note, Oh god I am going to hell.

Everyone has there own values, and I like labels, they make me all tingly inside.

 

So does .

j/k :wink:

 

So if you live in Japan and you drive a Toyota Soarer it's not as good as driving a Lexus SC300? It's the SAME FREAKING CAR!!!! Nissan Skyline is the same thing as the Infiniti G35 but it's not as good because it says nissan?!? It is a freaking badge that makes the diference and that's it. Acura Integra engines all say Honda on them because that's what the hell they are not Acura's. Nothing is better about them. That expensive ass Acura RL is a Honda Legend in Japan. Do you get my point?

If I want a higher end more luxurious Toyota I will buy a Lexus but I don't care if it has toyota marks all over it and matter of fact I would rather it be badge Toyota. If I want a more luxurious honda or nissan I have to go with there North American counterparts in order to do so. That's just a gimmick to get more money and give more people a chance to own a variety of different dealerships. I personally have never seen a Lexus/Toyota, Infiniti/Nissan, and or Acura/Honda dealership under the same roof. Have you? Not saying they don't exist but I have never heard of one.

Once you get a couple more years under you, you won't care so much anymore. Trust me, you will just want a nice car.

 

For the last time. I know. I pay more for the label, so? I still don't see whats wrong with that. Part of a label is it showing you have more money and being ostintatious, I like that. I have fucked up values, but I don't care. I also object to getting a car that initially stood for being cheap and simple, no matter how much they have advanced. At this point I really don't care if you flame me. I have made my point.

 

AH, I remember the days when having a cell phone was a status symbol. You used to see everyone showing it off in public, making sure that everyone heard it when it rang, and making sure everyone saw you talking on it. Time has passed and now bums on the street corners have 'em.

 

topic onhand ...lights do look similar...so?....now for Honda being cheapo, well then why can't I buy a used 1990 Civic for under 2k, now I've found some 1997 Fords for well under 2K...that' tells me your "W...RONG....."...carry on another thread gone to....

 

I meant they convey the cheapo message. Hondas are much better cars than fords(except for some of the classics), I just wouldn't buy one because of the label. Sue me.

BTW, my friends bro sold his accord 95 I believe, for 500, while my father sold his ford taurus for 600. The only problem with the accord was the head gasket, the taurus had a shot tranny, shot suspension, crappy interior(rugs coming up) and crappy exterior) tones of keyings and paint scraped where I put on duck tape racing stripes for april fools day.

 

A Honda Accord EX-V6 Navi conveys a "cheapo" message? The Accord has almost everything a TL does, and your dad's 5AT TL would be prey for a new Accord V6 6spd. What's cheap about an Accord? The Accord simply blows its competition away. The Civic is the same when compared to its competition.

You're going to buy a used Integra for 1-2k and you're calling Honda cheap? Integras were great vehicles, but they had cheap interiors and a cheap feel.

You just really need to grow up - perhaps myself and the rest of this community are expecting a little too much from someone who doesn't even know what driving is.

 

OK - I started this thread, now I'm asking for a mod to I started this just to ask if anyone thought the headlights looked similar...not to start something stupid about brand names.

Thanks to everyone who responded, sorry if I rubbed some of you the wrong way with how I said it...that wasn't my intention.

 

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