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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Exclamation Selling the TL and received this email!

I have my TL for sale on craigslist and this is an email response I got from a buyer. Now I know there is a lot of phony stuff that comes from craigslist, but I also know Paypal is a very safe and secure payment method. But what do you guys think about this response.

Great,my Brother always want something like this so am buying this
for his Xmas Gift,i am surprising him by buying this for him.I would
have loved to come for the inspection myself but i am mostly away,am
an engineer and i work offshore most of the time, needless to say, i
wont be able to come myself. However I have a private courier agent
that will represent me and come for the pick up after the payment has
been made,they will handle issue of my details,transferring the name
of ownership and signing of all paperwork will be done by the courier
agent As for the payment,i can only pay via the safest and secure way
to pay online i.e (PayPal) here, as i do not have access to my bank
account online,but i have it attached to my PayPal account hence my
insistence on using pay pal to pay.If you don't have a PayPal account,
you can easily set up one at WWW.PayPal.com and sign up its very easy.
i would have loved to talk to you on phone but i work mainly offshore
and our satellite server has been down due to the bad weather which
restrict our calls,please get back to me!! i appreciate your time.

Thanks and hope to read from you soon.

Regards,
Brenda
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:35 AM
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dont do it.
it has scam written all over it.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:42 AM
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Yup. Scam
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:48 AM
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thats what i was thinking just unsure because there will to send the money thru paypal which i havent seen one of those yet. most the time there willing to pay by check thats usually fake.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:49 AM
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Scam. I had a lot of those in the past.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:50 AM
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Funny, she wanted to buy my car too when I was thinking about selling a few months back.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:51 AM
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Scam broskie, ive sold many stuff on CL and i get those a lot, delete it and on to the next
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by akertulis
thats what i was thinking just unsure because there will to send the money thru paypal which i havent seen one of those yet. most the time there willing to pay by check thats usually fake.
you can tell its fake, 5 secs into reading it.
-doesnt list specific car....just says...my bro wants it.
-offshore and cant inspect it herself.
-cant call to speak to you, herself.
etc.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by akertulis
thats what i was thinking just unsure because there will to send the money thru paypal which i havent seen one of those yet. most the time there willing to pay by check thats usually fake.
here is basically how the scam works.

100% scam.

there is no buyer.

there is only a scammer trying to steal your money.

the next email will be from another of the scammer's fake names and free email addresses pretending to be "Paypal" saying "kindly send us some acceptance fee via Western Union or moneygram and we will release the funds". Paypal does NOT send such emails, ever. Paypal does NOT demand the receiver pay to receive the money.

Or the scammer will say "I sent extra money, kindly withdrawal some and send it back to me or the non-existent car transportation company via Western Union or moneygram." When the REAL owner of the paypal account realizes YOU took his/her cash, you get the real life job of paying the REAL paypal account owner back.

Now that you have responded to a scammer, you are on his/her 'potential sucker' list, he will try again to separate you from your cash. He will send you more emails from his other free email addresses using another of his fake names with all kinds of stories of being the perfect buyer, great jobs, lottery winnings, millions in the bank and desperate, lonely, sexy singles. He will sell your email address to all his scamming buddies who will also send you dozens of fake emails all with the exact same goal, you sending them your cash via Western Union or moneygram.

You could post up the email address and the emails themselves that the scammer is using, it will help make your post more googlable for other suspicious potential victims to find when looking for information.

Do you know how to check the header of a received email? If not, you could google for information. Being able to read the header to determine the geographic location an email originated from will help you weed out the most obvious scams and scammers. Then delete and block that scammer. Don't bother to tell him that you know he is a scammer, it isn't worth your effort. He has one job in life, convincing victims to send him their hard-earned cash.

Whenever suspicious or just plain curious, google everything, website addresses, names used, companies mentioned, phone numbers given, all email addresses, even sentences from the emails as you might be unpleasantly surprised at what you find already posted online. You can also post/ask here and every scam-warner-anti-fraud-busting site you can find before taking a chance and losing money to a scammer.

If you google "fake car buyer paypal Western Union", "fake paypal email scam", "car shipping company fraud" or something similar you will find hundreds of posts from victims and near victims of this type of scam.

brenda is a bitch. don't trust her.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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i am shocked that anyone would think this is even 2% legit. sorry. come on people!!!!
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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no one said they thought it was legit i was just double checking
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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run the other way. NOW. all the more reason i don't trust craigslist.

i've had a friend get held up at gun point when he was selling a laptop on craigslist (somewhere in baltimore i believe). granted he reported it to the police and they caught the guy, but that's just too friggin' scary. (yes he was in a public place, and he had his GF at the time with him as a witness, and the guy threatened her).
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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How Do I Contact PayPal Customer Service? At PayPal, we have over 800 customer service representatives standing by.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I don't know whats worse... the way that the guy wrote the letter or that you actually thought it might be real.

Common man....
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HEAVY_RL
How Do I Contact PayPal Customer Service? At PayPal, we have over 800 customer service representatives standing by.
OP, have you tried calling paypal?
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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It's a scam.


You should call Paypal.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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forward it to spoof@paypal.com
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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100% scam.
I got a same email when I was trying to sell my bike.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Seems legit to me
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by av2600
I don't know whats worse... the way that the guy wrote the letter or that you actually thought it might be real.

Common man....
not looking to be trashed here and like i said i never thought it was real i was just being extra cauious with it since they said about using paypal. thanks for your though bud
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by TLDude876
forward it to spoof@paypal.com
done
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:38 AM
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I actually went on CL one time and tried to find a job. Some lady said that they needed someone to take care of her mother for a few days and they will pay $1000 per day. They said they will send me a check first and they did. I withdrew the $4000 and spent it all in the next few days on stuff and my bank told me the check never cleared (and they still allowed me to cash it) and that it was a scam. They told me I had to return the money, I told them tough luck not my fault. Free $4000 cha-ching-- never worked a day

You should post in your ad that you ONLY deal with locals and make them post 'Acura TL' as the subject line in the email. Always works
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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i even got sth like this when i tried to sell my tv on CL....i usually replied "go f*^K urself.."
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
I actually went on CL one time and tried to find a job. Some lady said that they needed someone to take care of her mother for a few days and they will pay $1000 per day. They said they will send me a check first and they did. I withdrew the $4000 and spent it all in the next few days on stuff and my bank told me the check never cleared (and they still allowed me to cash it) and that it was a scam. They told me I had to return the money, I told them tough luck not my fault. Free $4000 cha-ching-- never worked a day

You should post in your ad that you ONLY deal with locals and make them post 'Acura TL' as the subject line in the email. Always works
didnt you get held up, as well?
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
I actually went on CL one time and tried to find a job. Some lady said that they needed someone to take care of her mother for a few days and they will pay $1000 per day. They said they will send me a check first and they did. I withdrew the $4000 and spent it all in the next few days on stuff and my bank told me the check never cleared (and they still allowed me to cash it) and that it was a scam. They told me I had to return the money, I told them tough luck not my fault. Free $4000 cha-ching-- never worked a day

You should post in your ad that you ONLY deal with locals and make them post 'Acura TL' as the subject line in the email. Always works
similar thing happened with me.

i sold a car a few years back on craigslist. got some bogus email (similar to OP's) and they said that the company they work for is issuing me a check for more than what the car was selling for. they wanted me to cash the check, and then send them back a certified money order for the extra money. sold the car for $2,000 and they sent me a $3,000 check. so basically they were trying to get $1k for nothing. they said that they had a minimum dollar amount that each check had to be made out to (bullshit).

i knew it was a scam from the beginning, but i decided to play along to see how far it would go. i had them mail the check to a random P.O. box. i went and picked up the check issued to me from some random non existent company. went to the bank that it was issued from, cashed it, "spent" the money, and then got a phone call from the bank a few days later saying the check was bad and never cleared. i told them the same thing you did, tough shit that's not my fault. they should have better practicing procedures at banks. in the end, i didn't pay a dime back and i made $3k for about a 1/2 hr's worth of work.

a few days later, i actually sold my car to a real person locally.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:02 PM
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Wow a horrible attempt of a scam.

Can access paypal but not his bank account? Can access internet but not phone?
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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the internet is great lol
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Reasons like this remind me why i like to deal with autotrader more.

You should troll the scammer like this guy (if you have the time): http://419eater.com/html/joyce_ozioma.htm

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Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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Something "LIKE THIS" SCAM! Notice they didn't even mention the year & model of the car? My GF got the same email last year when she was selling her sons car. It's a generic email from scammers. If somebody wants to buy my car then they come with CASH or no sale. I don't trust bank checks etc.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:45 PM
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Scam.
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by justnspace
didnt you get held up, as well?
No? lol

Originally Posted by SharksBreath
similar thing happened with me.

i sold a car a few years back on craigslist. got some bogus email (similar to OP's) and they said that the company they work for is issuing me a check for more than what the car was selling for. they wanted me to cash the check, and then send them back a certified money order for the extra money. sold the car for $2,000 and they sent me a $3,000 check. so basically they were trying to get $1k for nothing. they said that they had a minimum dollar amount that each check had to be made out to (bullshit).

i knew it was a scam from the beginning, but i decided to play along to see how far it would go. i had them mail the check to a random P.O. box. i went and picked up the check issued to me from some random non existent company. went to the bank that it was issued from, cashed it, "spent" the money, and then got a phone call from the bank a few days later saying the check was bad and never cleared. i told them the same thing you did, tough shit that's not my fault. they should have better practicing procedures at banks. in the end, i didn't pay a dime back and i made $3k for about a 1/2 hr's worth of work.

a few days later, i actually sold my car to a real person locally.
Yeah exactly. Wish I could do that again :x
Old Dec 12, 2011 | 01:22 PM
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Good job guys!!!

I was worried there for a bit; this was one of the tougher ones, but after 30 posts we were able to ferret it out - it's a scam.





Old Dec 12, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
No? lol




https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/best-looking-tl-ever-817522/

EDIT- sorry didn't realize Bearcat closed the thread.....
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