brandomc

edit by mod Ron A

The last post in this thread before being resurrected was 12/31/2003, and the thread contained many posts about disabling the seat belt, which we do not allow, and there were numerous posts made today about doing the same thing.

Instead of trying to find all the posts which needed to be deleted, and then sending everyone a PM, I just deleted everything and closed this thread.

Thanks to 1995hoo for the Bad Post Report, and you can consider this the reply to it which I normally send by PM.

HacksawHilliard

You don't wear your seatbelt?

deandorsey

does it chime whenever the cars running?--that would be extremely annoying

SlntSam

No whenever your car is in motion and your seatbelt is on.

I think the best way to remedy the situation is to buckle your seatbelt.

The other day I had put the parking brake down but not all the way. About 10 seconds after taking off this fast chime starts sounding and on the MID I see "RELEASE PARKING BRAKE!" Nice.

brandomc

I wear my seatbelt 99% of the time. The only time I don't wear is a 1/4 mile trip to local stores or driving my car from front to back of house (garage in back). I just don't like to fact that Acura has it's way of enforcing the law. I'm an adult and it my decision if I want to wear my seatbelt or not. Not Acura's decision.

Is there a way to disconnect seatbelt chime?

supergreen

deja vu.
i have a solution for this in the works.
most wouldn't agree with how i'm going about it due to the safety issues involved, but here's my idea.
i work for a company that does cad design and prototyping.
i'm going to have one of our engineers take measurments off of the male end of the buckle, then have our shop build a metal model of the buckle with just enough of the "grip" portion on there to be able to insert and remove it.
i'll keep it in the storage bin and insert it into the female end for short trips to keep the annoying seatbelt alert from beeping and blinking every minute. this also means no modifications to the car... which i was really trying to aviod.

for those that think i should simply go to a wrecking yard and get a buckle off of an accord or older acura.... already tried that. it seems that every honda ever built has a different buckle. makes no sense to me... but oh well.

RJC RSX

too bad most accidents happen right outside the home. Seriously it takes 2.5 seconds to put on your seatbelt and you can't even tell it's there

eneg

I asked this question and got the usual political quotes.
Except for a few, you can't get an answer. It looks like "Supergreen" might have an answer.
I also got a male buckle from a junk yard, but it is a bit too wide.
I'm gonna try and get it machined down (Ouch!)

I'll tell you one thing, though: When you do buckle the belt there is a "click" on the pillar right behind the driver's seat. The real answer is in there. The question is how to get in there!!!

Eneg

Eneg

SlntSam

But don't you think that's too much trouble for something so small as just doing up your seatbelt?

04SSMTLCanada

What about this idea: Make this buckle also receive and allow the real seatbelt to latch on, so you don't have to keep taking this fake buckle in and out and worried about getting lost?

supergreen

that's a little more complicated than what i was trying to accomplish. besides, i don't know if having 2 latching mechanisms for the belt would affect its performance in a severe accident.
it sounds like you might want to access the wires below the female portion of the buckle and see if you can jump them to fool the car into thinking the buckle is always.. buckled.

PappyTL

I'd try to find the wire leading to the switch in the receiver and short (or open) it. That wat the car would think the belt was on all the time. I've never bothered but I can how that would be annoying.

jyg tl 3

why are you trying to outwit the seatbelt warning ?, just wear the belt, it may save your life, :banghead:

Xzinkz

too american ? nah try driving a car in japan those things ring when you go too fast. hahaha , man those things pissed me off.

Z Factor

Well guess where the highest % of accidents occur? That's right, within a 3 mile radius of your residence. The fact of the matter is that seatbelts save lives, and reduce crippling injuries. Just imagine that the 1/4 trip to the store might be your last on earth unless you were wearing your seatbelt.

Here is more bad news for you. Let's say you disable the warning and are in an accident. Your insurance company might find out and be less willing to foot the bill. You may have the right to play James Dean, but they have the right not to insure rebels without a cause. :grenade:

Jinen

in my opinion...it's that individuals' decision whether to wear the seat belt or to go without it...i think people should just stop recommending that ohh seat belt save lives, and all this other bla bla bla...i mean seriously, do you think that the person who started this thread wants to hear that cr@p? one of many things that i have learned growing up is this...YOU CAN'T CHANGE A PERSON UNLESS THAT PERSON WANTS TO CHANGE...no matter how hard you try, how many facts you provide, they STILL WILL NOT CHANGE if they don't want to...

some people have given good suggestions to go around the chime and if that works for you then so be it...but for those who keep on telling people to wear your seat belts becuase it will save lives, please just stop...

don't get me wrong though, i wear my seat belt 100% of the time, even if i have to go from my hosue to my next door neighbors house (it's just an instinct now)...i know the advantages of wearing a seatbelt so please don't misunderstand what i am saying...i am not going against anyone or criticizing anyone...

all i am trying to say is that the person who started this thread PROBABLY DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR the advantages of the seatbelt...so just don't mention it...i am sure everyone is mature and grown up in this forum so let's keep it to that...

Ken1997TL

Move to New Hampshire if you don't want to wear a seatbelt.

MikeRadio

Do the cars in New Hampshire come without seatbelt chimes?

HacksawHilliard

Doesn't the chime only come on for a few seconds?

jyg tl 3

seat belts, l"live free or die" the NH motto
as far as seat belts should be changed to" live free and die" BUCKLE UP"

Chitown-TL

Not wearing seatbelt? I would feel naked. :wow:

In Illinois they just recently started re-advertising "Click it or ticket". This program started back in 1999.

An interesting alternative slogan used back then:

The media messages were designed to target motorists ages 18 to 34, and were graphic and politically incorrect. One billboard slogan featured young drivers, and read "Don't forget your protection."


For an opposing viewpoint:

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/econo...03/ticket.html

brandomc

I didn't mean to start a political battle on this subject...

I just don't like the fact that Acura and other car manufactures have decided to take the law into their own hands (chimes, etc...) We are all adults and don't need reminding...

supergreen

it beeps for about 10 seconds.... but it does that once a minute.. every minute.
if it only did that for the first couple minutes, i'd be 100% ok with it.... but after the 4th or 5th time, i start seeing red.

automophile

All this banter about people being allowed to decide whether or not to wear their seatbelts would be fine - IF:

1. It didn't raise MY insurance when you yo-yo's get killed,

2. It didn't totally devastate your family when you don't come home from your trip to the Liquor Mart.

Grow Up - Buckle Up! People have been killed in car accidents at 13 mph!

Turbowhat2

hey brandomac... you know the Dallas North Tollway?... all my friends have tolltags, but they prefer to go through the exact change lanes at 115 mph while honking to piss off the workers...
Even they wear seatbelts. Some of my friends actually drive on the wrong side of the road daily. ANother one of their moto's "No Cop, no Stop (stop signs)...

if you guys really want to then go ahead and drive without seatbelts.. you are so badass!! *sarcasm*

i really hate that beep, so i buckle, and i never have to hear it ever again.

ex-prelude

While not wearing a seatbelt may be an individual decision in locations where it's not mandatory, it is still STOOPID!!!

brandomc

Turbowhat...The N Dallas Tollroad is the North American autobaun (spelling?). Besides the tolls every 3 minutes, it awesome driving...I do wear my seatbelt on the tollroad...LOL!!!

Turbowhat2

Z Factor

How does this comment go with your earlier comment about driving to your back yard from the front, and only going to the local store while not wearing your seat belt?

Unless you live on the Ponderosa, or out in boondocks it would seem that you do in fact drive around without belts more than you indicated.

JINEN


Without getting into a debate with you, let me say that my experience comes from working the streets as a Paramedic on Miami's Fast and Furious roads. Furthermore, I worked in a Trauma Center as a Critical Care Specialist. I have seen all the accidents you can imagine, and then some. It never failed to amaze me that at times small fender benders could cause death or crippling injuries, yet high speed smash up's would only result in elevated BP's and heart rates when properly restrained.

More to your point, if the person is not reminded on a regular basis by family, friends, and yes, fellow TL drivers, they will be less likely to change a dangerous habit. By the time they decide on their own without reminders, they may be facing St. Pete , or Lucifer :devil:

Furthermore, in no way should someone come along and suggest a way for that person to circumvent an important safety feature. If they did, they would be party at least in some small part to the persons demise should they be involved in a traumatic accident. The chime is designed to remind people that your seatbelt should be on, and even a reluctant wearer will put it on eventually rather that listen to it unless they are so stubborn that they will have a test of wills with their own car :argue:

The bottom line is that if they choose not to wear a seatbelt, they are endangering themselves, and anyone else in the car with them. They may want to gamble with their own lives, but what about their loved ones next to them?

HacksawHilliard

Maybe we don't, but there are some idiots out who do need to be reminded. It has to do with accepting personal responsibility for your own safety; some just don't know how to do that. The people who don't wear them simply because the law states they should couldn't see the forest thru the trees anyway. But at the same time, EVERYONE knows that seatbelts saves lives and/or serious injury.

nruscitti

Man, I would like to know how old you all are, you wimpy bastards. I'm not wearing a seat belt, EVER. I almost didn't buy the 04 Tl because of that and I will figure out a way around it, so don't preach, answer the guys question.

Z Factor

Pretty sad way to start posting here. :tflamer:

It must be due to your obvious lack of maturity. It doesn't matter how cool you think it is to be rebellious, or how tough you think you are because when your femur is snapped in two, you will whimper like a baby. I've got news for you kid, you are not as tough as you think. Kinetic energy will whoop your arse when it slams you into something hard.

PS
When I was younger and dumber, I rarely wore seatbelts because I thought I was such a great driver that I wouldn't get into an accident. People at your age never do, and think of themselves as invincible. Unfortunately, many invincible young kids never reach adulthood due to that fatal attitude. I hope you do not wind up being one of those statistics.

Be cool not a fool :clown:

Turbowhat2

wow you must be a ****ing rebel... *sarcasm*

-$.02 from a 16 Year Old.

eneg

Truly, Truly Amazing!

1. It actually might raise your insurance rates, but it will also raise your Social Security Rates, as the "yo-yo" would never collect. So that's a wash!

2. Really none of your business!

I will be taking a long trip down I95 shortly.
My seat belts will be buckled.

When I stop for Gas and drive 1/4 mile to a rest area, they won't be.
You're the one that should "grow-up" and more importantly,
Mind your own business!

Eneg

Redox

It was no longer your choice when it became the law. If you die in a car accident your family will not get any compensation, even if you're not at fault, because the insurance company will prove that it was because you did not buckle up.

eneg

Oh, really?
Do you obey the speed limit at all times?
Oh, that's right. You "do-gooders" just obey the laws that you want to. Everybody is wrong except you!

When you get a chance, go read the posts preaching to me to wear seatbelts. Then read posts by the very same people that have had the TL over 140+ mph.

Eneg

Turbowhat2

there is a difference... there is no reason why you dont wear your seatbelt... however there are many reasons why you dont follow the speed limit.

eneg

Geeez!
Ya know, you people make me sick!
You tell everybody else what to do, but when YOU break the law, it's okay!
What a bunch of hypocrites!!

Eneg

Turbowhat2

didnt i just say there was a difference?? Maybe you need glasses?

HacksawHilliard

eneg, I think you missed th point made by the post you responded to. If you're killed in an accident that wasn't your fault and you were not wearing your seatbelt, your familiy may still get some money but any amount will be greatly reduced if the insurance companies can show you may not have been killed had you buckled up.

Whether one wears their seatbelt or not is a personal decision regardless of how fast they drive. The facts of matter are that it is proven that wearing your belt will give you a much greater chance of survival if you're in a serious accident.

We have many rights in this country, even the right to be stupid. If one wants to disregard most state laws and even pay some steep fines ($187 in OR) if they get caught, then more "power" to them.