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Old 09-23-2004, 02:38 PM
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Saw The New Backup Sensors Today

Acura STILL doesn't get it!

They're practically the same stupid open black holes just like before with just the outside part of the rings painted to match the car's color. Even my dealer's GM agreed, "WTF is Acura's problem?"

Believe me, if they were now made to look like just like the factory backup sensors on EVERY other make and model of car, I would have had them installed, no questions asked.

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are you sure you didn't see the old ones?
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Originally Posted by cTLgo
are you sure you didn't see the old ones?
100% POSITIVE !

The dealer's parts manager offered to order them for me with the condition that if I didn't want them, he'd return them to Acura. This was their 1st opening of a box of the new sensors and his & the GM's 1st glance at them. The outside rim was painted the exact DGP of my car.

Both their opinions: :wtf:
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you're sure it's the new one. Old one has the same color, too.

I like to see the comparison if possible.... THANKS.


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Originally Posted by rets
you're sure it's the new one. Old one has the same color, too.

I like to see the comparison if possible.... THANKS.
Just spoke with the dealer's parts manager. He confirmed the part # IS for the new sensors and he'll refrain from returning them for now. My TL is in for service and will be ready tomorrow. I'll take my digital camera when I go back.

The dim tail light problem I complained about in an earlier thread was determined to be a bad LED panel which had to be ordered overnight. According to the Service Manual, they have to completely remove the rear bumper to replace it.
Old 09-23-2004, 03:47 PM
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Acura needs to learn from Ford and GM! Then, and only then, will we have flush sensors! BMW, Lexus, Porsche, MB, Chrysler, Nissan, etc., too!
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the new ones are suppose to be FLAT style.... if you saw colored rims with black centers, those are not the new ones...
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Just spoke with the dealer's parts manager. He confirmed the part # IS for the new sensors and he'll refrain from returning them for now. My TL is in for service and will be ready tomorrow. I'll take my digital camera when I go back.

The dim tail light problem I complained about in an earlier thread was determined to be a bad LED panel which had to be ordered overnight. According to the Service Manual, they have to completely remove the rear bumper to replace it.

Ok, sounds like the very bad idea from Acura. I hope I could see it personally...




About the dim tail light, I guess your left and right taillight is significantly different, right? Either my acura dealer lacks the ability to figure that out or my dim taillight is under the reasonable range of difference.

Maybe you should wake up your thread out there, too. Thanks. http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92223
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Old 09-25-2004, 07:25 PM
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Ok Gang, Here's The Pics

As you can see, the outer ring is painted the car color. This one is the Deep Green Pearl.
Sorry for the clarity.




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so you're saying the new sensors are red Xs... yeah i dont like the new ones then :P
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Originally Posted by cTLgo
so you're saying the new sensors are red Xs... yeah i dont like the new ones then :P
What red X's?
Old 09-25-2004, 09:54 PM
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I can see them...
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Yah, the new ones are pretty similar to the old one... I cannot tell since I never saw the old one individually.
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damn, I can't see them, when i copy and paste the link it says the file is locked or somethign... weird
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id say id rather have the 4 holes for the sensor then to have to back up into an on comming car.
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i have a dealer installed backup sensor... just not the $800, holes in the bumper version... it uses multiple sensors with doplar radar and are installed behind the bumper... they work perfect and the beeps are louder than the Acura model, which can warn you better as well as annoy you... my warning light display is mounted on the headliner, near the rear window, dead center... the light is visible while backing up, both through the rear view and when turned and looking out the rear... if Acura fails to follow through with the flat style sensors, this may be the best alternative at around $300...
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Dealer Installed Backup Sensor

Originally Posted by tizo
i have a dealer installed backup sensor... just not the $800, holes in the bumper version... it uses multiple sensors with doplar radar and are installed behind the bumper... they work perfect and the beeps are louder than the Acura model, which can warn you better as well as annoy you... my warning light display is mounted on the headliner, near the rear window, dead center... the light is visible while backing up, both through the rear view and when turned and looking out the rear... if Acura fails to follow through with the flat style sensors, this may be the best alternative at around $300...
I'm not sure I understand... did your Acura Dealer install the "behind the bumper" backup sensor? If not, where did you buy it & where did you get it installed? What is the brand and model? Also, can you post pics of the visual display?

Thanks!
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RETS -- I believe the sensors are supposed to be mounted horizontally; these were done vertically.


somewhat related - my friend's new VW Touareg V8 has the factory backup sensors which are behind-the-bumper.

They also have the helpful green/yellow/red LED's in addition to beeps - very classy system and better than the TL's.
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Originally Posted by lindros2
RETS -- I believe the sensors are supposed to be mounted horizontally; these were done vertically.


somewhat related - my friend's new VW Touareg V8 has the factory backup sensors which are behind-the-bumper.

They also have the helpful green/yellow/red LED's in addition to beeps - very classy system and better than the TL's.

I seem to see some fuzzy effect around those holes. Installation failure?? (Is it only me or you guys see the same things?))

http://www.freepgs.com/bruno/upload14/MVC-003S.jpg


This car has almost perfect installation.

http://www.pifiu.com/upload/uploads/...kup sensor.JPG







This one is so called "new" flat style. Pic by DMZ. If comparing with two above, they do look very similar.

http://www.pifiu.com/upload/uploads/...ackupview1.jpg
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the sensors are pretty ugly. aren't there sensors that can be hidden?
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Originally Posted by SilverSpike
I'm not sure I understand... did your Acura Dealer install the "behind the bumper" backup sensor? If not, where did you buy it & where did you get it installed? What is the brand and model? Also, can you post pics of the visual display?
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the sensor was installed from the dealership... i`m still in the process of finding the pamphlet, but here`s some pics to give give you a better understanding... i would include a rear bumper shot , but there`s nothing there...





if you can`t see the pics, click on the link... posted pics always tend to be temperamental...

sensor001
sensor002
sensor003
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dead links?
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Originally Posted by aGenKa
dead links?
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Originally Posted by tizo
if you can`t see the pics, copy and paste the links or click on the link and then click [->GO] next to the browser address... posted pics always tend to be temperamental...
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Originally Posted by tizo
i have a dealer installed backup sensor... just not the $800, holes in the bumper version... it uses multiple sensors with doplar radar and are installed behind the bumper... they work perfect and the beeps are louder than the Acura model, which can warn you better as well as annoy you... my warning light display is mounted on the headliner, near the rear window, dead center... the light is visible while backing up, both through the rear view and when turned and looking out the rear... if Acura fails to follow through with the flat style sensors, this may be the best alternative at around $300...
Looks nice!

Does that $300 include both the device and labor?
Is there a volume control?
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Originally Posted by DMZ
Looks nice!

Does that $300 include both the device and labor?
Is there a volume control?
includes the sensor, installed... no volume control...
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Tizo - I have a new quest, I must know more about your system. the light display head looks good, no sensors are visible, AND you got it for $300?!?! you' da man!!!
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this must be some aftermarket sensors you had installed tizo, if the dealer did it, do you think you could get the product info from them? that would be helpful, thanks!
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Originally Posted by cTLgo
this must be some aftermarket sensors you had installed tizo, if the dealer did it, do you think you could get the product info from them? that would be helpful, thanks!
it definitely is an aftermarket... i`ll work on the details...
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just scheduled in for my A1 servicing... i`ll be able to get the info then...
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what happens when you tint you windows ?
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Tizo -- I love the sensor and the red/yellow/green LED. DEFINITELY interested if you can get info.

RETS -- Regarding the fuzziness around the rear backup sensors, I'm guessing that it's actually a JPEG (image) thing and not really the installation.

So if you take a picture and save it as a lower quality JPEG (Adobe Photoshop for one gives a sliding option) you'll notice that the transition between colors (and these sensors are an excellent example) has "fuzziness". This is due to the LZW compression and not indicative of the original image.

Since there are two different photos (different angles) it could be the computer image software or there really could be a poor installation.

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Originally Posted by dv8ing
what happens when you tint you windows ?
there is absolutely no direct interference between tint and the backup sensor... the visual/audible alert is mounted inside the vehicle and wired out to the actual back up sensor, mounted behind the bumper...

here is the latest... this is the company that produces the sensor... as soon as i pick up the pamphlet and find out the model, i will scan and post it...

...Guardian Alert...
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I don't need the the backup Sensors~
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Originally Posted by EmuMessenger
Acura needs to learn from Ford and GM! Then, and only then, will we have flush sensors! BMW, Lexus, Porsche, MB, Chrysler, Nissan, etc., too!


FORD GM
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Wow! Looks Awesome!!!

Originally Posted by tizo
the sensor was installed from the dealership... i`m still in the process of finding the pamphlet, but here`s some pics to give give you a better understanding... i would include a rear bumper shot , but there`s nothing there...





if you can`t see the pics, click on the link... posted pics always tend to be temperamental...

sensor001
sensor002
sensor003
Was this an Acura Installed Item? Where did you purchase it? I think this looks great and am ready to do it! Do you know if the Clear Bra (on the rear bumper) would hinder the effectiveness of this system? Could this system also be installed in the front, to avoid bumping into something in front of the car while parkind>
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Thanks for all the great photos and infor!

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I think I found it ... Guardian Alert can actually be ordered at Sears,

Guardian Alert @ Sears
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Originally Posted by Brewmaster
I think I found it ... Guardian Alert can actually be ordered at Sears,

Guardian Alert @ Sears

GOOD JOB!!!
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DMZ, check out this...

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=109726


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