RSX Type-S VS. 2001 TL
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RSX Type-S VS. 2001 TL
Finally got the chance to race something worth while. I was driving down one of Midlothian Virginias main road ways and I get stuck at a light right behind an RSX Type-S. It was black, and to my suprise after pulling through the light there was another one on my left. So I fight through a little bit of heavy traffic and get to a completely clear mile or two of just open road. I open it up just a little to see if I can rope him and sure enough he gets right on me. We line up and slow down to 40 mph. I start in third gear in SS mode and take off. He hangs on my bumper till about 60 or so, then I'm gone. It was a good race, and I didn't know I had that in me. I'm very proud of my car, and I guess he'll know not to take my family sedan so lightly next time
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which model is the RSX-S were you racing? The +05's or -04's?
2005 Model (look at tail lights)
2004 Model
I don't want to be an asshole about this because I love the TL very much and I am always favoring the TLs but honestly, the rsx driver must have been a real crappy driver. I say this because both of those RSX models can pull real hard from 40mph. and basically throughout 2nd gear to whatever (20-1XX mph). I'm considering this also because you have the base TL model with just a few mods. My bro has an 04' RSX-S and to me, if feels like it pulls a lot harder and stronger once it gains traction fromt he start when compared to my 2002 TL Type-S. I dunno if anybody else has experience with the RSX but tha'ts my opinion on this.
But either way, a win is a win.
2005 Model (look at tail lights)
2004 Model
I don't want to be an asshole about this because I love the TL very much and I am always favoring the TLs but honestly, the rsx driver must have been a real crappy driver. I say this because both of those RSX models can pull real hard from 40mph. and basically throughout 2nd gear to whatever (20-1XX mph). I'm considering this also because you have the base TL model with just a few mods. My bro has an 04' RSX-S and to me, if feels like it pulls a lot harder and stronger once it gains traction fromt he start when compared to my 2002 TL Type-S. I dunno if anybody else has experience with the RSX but tha'ts my opinion on this.
But either way, a win is a win.
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I had an 05 RSX-S with Comptech Icebox, Comptech shorty header, Hondata reflash and there weren't may cars that I lost to. I don't think a TL-P can take one. 02-06 no matter what year.
IF it was a base RSX then the TL-P and definatly a TL-S would smoke it.
IF it was a base RSX then the TL-P and definatly a TL-S would smoke it.
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Originally Posted by vc123
if they r both stock tl can take rsx with ease
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From car-stats.com, The 2000 3.2TL has a 0-60 time of 6.7 sec. But I've also seen 7 seconds flat in motortrend.
The 0-60 time for RSX Type S is 6.5 for 05 and 06, and 6.7 for older ones. These numbers are from various websites such as modernracer and edmunds.
With his mods, luck (may be the rsx's driver couldn't shift fast enough?), winning shouldn't be surprising.
The 0-60 time for RSX Type S is 6.5 for 05 and 06, and 6.7 for older ones. These numbers are from various websites such as modernracer and edmunds.
With his mods, luck (may be the rsx's driver couldn't shift fast enough?), winning shouldn't be surprising.
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Originally Posted by reloaded
You obviously have never ridden or driven an RSX-S huh? Maybe if ur comparing a base RSX to a tl-p (base)..but were talking about an RSX-S VS. TL-P w/ mods. Now if you think that a stock TL-P can take a stock RSX-S "with ease" you do not know much about the RSX-S.
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Originally Posted by reloaded
You obviously have never ridden or driven an RSX-S huh? Maybe if ur comparing a base RSX to a tl-p (base)..but were talking about an RSX-S VS. TL-P w/ mods. Now if you think that a stock TL-P can take a stock RSX-S "with ease" you do not know much about the RSX-S.
Originally Posted by iforyou
From car-stats.com, The 2000 3.2TL has a 0-60 time of 6.7 sec. But I've also seen 7 seconds flat in motortrend.
The 0-60 time for RSX Type S is 6.5 for 05 and 06, and 6.7 for older ones. These numbers are from various websites such as modernracer and edmunds.
With his mods, luck (may be the rsx's driver couldn't shift fast enough?), winning shouldn't be surprising.
The 0-60 time for RSX Type S is 6.5 for 05 and 06, and 6.7 for older ones. These numbers are from various websites such as modernracer and edmunds.
With his mods, luck (may be the rsx's driver couldn't shift fast enough?), winning shouldn't be surprising.
Good Kill Ryebreadisme. I hate lining up next to RSX-S'. Here in the O.C. they're NEVER stock, so I never know what I'm going up against. Been up against a boosted RSX-S... and yeah.. you can guess the outcome.
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a stock RSX-S gives me a good run till i hit 3rd, then im out. ive had a few runs with this kid that lives down the street. TL-S won everytime, a TL-P would get smoked espicially from a 40 roll
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Originally Posted by S1CK TypeS
a stock RSX-S gives me a good run till i hit 3rd, then im out. ive had a few runs with this kid that lives down the street. TL-S won everytime, a TL-P would get smoked espicially from a 40 roll
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
TL-P vs RSX-S... my money would be on the RSX-S stock for stock... Even a modded TL-P would have a hard time with a lightly modded RSX-S.
Yes, 0-60 times are similar, but the RSX-S is faster or on par with the TL-P for 0-60. But you forget, RSX-S is 700 lbs lighter. And yeah, that guy was probably a crappy shifter. That six speed is pretty responsive, and unlike the auto 5 speed, I doubt they lose as much HP through the trannies as us 5 speed auto'ers do.
Good Kill Ryebreadisme. I hate lining up next to RSX-S'. Here in the O.C. they're NEVER stock, so I never know what I'm going up against. Been up against a boosted RSX-S... and yeah.. you can guess the outcome.
Yes, 0-60 times are similar, but the RSX-S is faster or on par with the TL-P for 0-60. But you forget, RSX-S is 700 lbs lighter. And yeah, that guy was probably a crappy shifter. That six speed is pretty responsive, and unlike the auto 5 speed, I doubt they lose as much HP through the trannies as us 5 speed auto'ers do.
Good Kill Ryebreadisme. I hate lining up next to RSX-S'. Here in the O.C. they're NEVER stock, so I never know what I'm going up against. Been up against a boosted RSX-S... and yeah.. you can guess the outcome.
Anyways, I would still think it's "possible" (possible being the keyword) to beat a RSX-S with a TL-P like Ryebreadisme with some luck. According to his mods, I think its TL is putting out around 230-240hp (no idea cause my TL is stock). And then the RSX-S has like 200hp. that extra power might cancel about 500lbs, and the lack of shifting skills might cancel another few hundred pounds (when I first learned to drive standard, it took like 2 seconds to shift from one gear to another and I know I suck). OF course, a well-driven RSX-S is another story, just like any car.
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The 05+ should not run out of steam in 3rd gear. They have the revised Type R gearing which makes them pull on the 02-04 models at those speeds.
Don't sleep on the 05+ models, esp with a good driver that shifts before the fuel cut off (higher redline in the 05+ models as well). I have extensive experience with an 05 model and they have balls.
Hondata is a the key mod for those cars....they run 13s with i/hondata/headers (although not advised to run headers with hondata on 05+)/exhaust
Don't sleep on the 05+ models, esp with a good driver that shifts before the fuel cut off (higher redline in the 05+ models as well). I have extensive experience with an 05 model and they have balls.
Hondata is a the key mod for those cars....they run 13s with i/hondata/headers (although not advised to run headers with hondata on 05+)/exhaust
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I'm almost positive it was an 02-04. I know it's not likely I won on pure power, but I've driven the base RSX 02-04 and those things are pretty slugish compared to my TL-P. My cousin has one with header back exhaust and intake and he lets me drive it around some times. It's not TL, but I'm sure the Type-s is a different story.
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Last year I raced a modified RSX-S and he gave me a serious run for my money. I posted the story somewhere around here, but it was one of those instances where they'd stopped traffic on a street for a solid 10 minutes, and the rsx-s was waiting in the far left lane, and I was waiting in the far right lane, and when they let us go... we let it go. He must have been I/H/E, possibly KPro, because he really was right at my fender until we parted ways after the acura friendly thumbs up.
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the thing with RSXs is that they are rarely stock. My friend has one with a TSX engine (K24A1 i believe), custom header, and fujitsubo exhaust. It pulls pretty hard
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no doubt they are quick, but this guy I raced was most definitely stock. I'm sure if I run into him again he won't be and I should watch out, but I did win this once
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Originally Posted by TheAcAvenger
Last year I raced a modified RSX-S and he gave me a serious run for my money. I posted the story somewhere around here, but it was one of those instances where they'd stopped traffic on a street for a solid 10 minutes, and the rsx-s was waiting in the far left lane, and I was waiting in the far right lane, and when they let us go... we let it go. He must have been I/H/E, possibly KPro, because he really was right at my fender until we parted ways after the acura friendly thumbs up.
the rsx responds extreemly well to mods unlike the J32 where the only mods that do well are headers and forced induction
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Originally Posted by Leo Type-S
the 05-06 would leave u.
other than that, i smoked my friends 03 rsx type-s (intake) easily all the time, and i have a 03 TL-S
other than that, i smoked my friends 03 rsx type-s (intake) easily all the time, and i have a 03 TL-S
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Originally Posted by Leo Type-S
the 05-06 would leave u.
other than that, i smoked my friends 03 rsx type-s (intake) easily all the time, and i have a 03 TL-S
other than that, i smoked my friends 03 rsx type-s (intake) easily all the time, and i have a 03 TL-S
You might have smoked your friends 03 RSX-S, but an RSX with merely an Intake is no where near what Drew has in his RSX-S. His car will kill any TL w/o a charger/turbo.
You smoked your friend's RSX-S with a bone stock 03 TL-S? Interesting. You posted that headers will be you first mod, so I figured you have nothing else in your car atm.
I've never smoked/killed an RSX-S when my 03 TL-S was stock. Beat them? sure... when they're stock. But who has a stock RSX-S? The only time I've smoked an RSX-S (if you wanna call it being smoked) was pulling maybe a half car - 2/3 cars length on one on the highway. I have every single bolt on though and have no idea about what the RSX-S had.
RSX-S are pretty quick. I've even seen some of them beat/keep up with WRX's that have had cobb flash 1. Hell even in my old STi, on the highway a suped up 06 RSX-S with hondata/i/h/e/p had no problems keeping up at my back bumper.
If you get a chance to drive an RSX-S, try it out. For a FWD car, it's suprisingly enjoyable in a sports car kind of way.
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Indeed. I have driven my friend's 02 RSX-S (prior to him trading it for an AP1) and it is a blast to drive. (Just as a comparison, it made the 06 Spec V I drove last week seem like a dumb joke. )
In stock trim, I am confident that a well driven RSX-S can handle a stock WRX and a respectably modded RSX-S (such as the mods BraveDemon listed especially when coupled with the RSX's noteably lighter curb weight) can be somewhat competetive against a stock STi.
In my 02 Maxima, I NEVER sleep on the RSX-S....and I imagine the new Si is on the same level to some degree.
In stock trim, I am confident that a well driven RSX-S can handle a stock WRX and a respectably modded RSX-S (such as the mods BraveDemon listed especially when coupled with the RSX's noteably lighter curb weight) can be somewhat competetive against a stock STi.
In my 02 Maxima, I NEVER sleep on the RSX-S....and I imagine the new Si is on the same level to some degree.
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Just for your reference, the Integra Type R (220hp) is as fast as a WRX (250hp in Japan). I've watched many Best Motoring videos where the ITR could actually pass (most of the time keep up with) a WRX on that short straightaway in Tsukuba.
Since many people have modded their RSX-S, I think most of them you see are as fast (if not faster) than the ITR.
Since many people have modded their RSX-S, I think most of them you see are as fast (if not faster) than the ITR.
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Just for your reference, the Integra Type R (220hp) is as fast as a WRX (250hp in Japan). I've watched many Best Motoring videos where the ITR could actually pass (most of the time keep up with) a WRX on that short straightaway in Tsukuba.
Since many people have modded their RSX-S, I think most of them you see are as fast (if not faster) than the ITR.
Since many people have modded their RSX-S, I think most of them you see are as fast (if not faster) than the ITR.
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Highly unlikely.
You might have smoked your friends 03 RSX-S, but an RSX with merely an Intake is no where near what Drew has in his RSX-S. His car will kill any TL w/o a charger/turbo.
You smoked your friend's RSX-S with a bone stock 03 TL-S? Interesting. You posted that headers will be you first mod, so I figured you have nothing else in your car atm.
I've never smoked/killed an RSX-S when my 03 TL-S was stock. Beat them? sure... when they're stock. But who has a stock RSX-S? The only time I've smoked an RSX-S (if you wanna call it being smoked) was pulling maybe a half car - 2/3 cars length on one on the highway. I have every single bolt on though and have no idea about what the RSX-S had.
RSX-S are pretty quick. I've even seen some of them beat/keep up with WRX's that have had cobb flash 1. Hell even in my old STi, on the highway a suped up 06 RSX-S with hondata/i/h/e/p had no problems keeping up at my back bumper.
If you get a chance to drive an RSX-S, try it out. For a FWD car, it's suprisingly enjoyable in a sports car kind of way.
You might have smoked your friends 03 RSX-S, but an RSX with merely an Intake is no where near what Drew has in his RSX-S. His car will kill any TL w/o a charger/turbo.
You smoked your friend's RSX-S with a bone stock 03 TL-S? Interesting. You posted that headers will be you first mod, so I figured you have nothing else in your car atm.
I've never smoked/killed an RSX-S when my 03 TL-S was stock. Beat them? sure... when they're stock. But who has a stock RSX-S? The only time I've smoked an RSX-S (if you wanna call it being smoked) was pulling maybe a half car - 2/3 cars length on one on the highway. I have every single bolt on though and have no idea about what the RSX-S had.
RSX-S are pretty quick. I've even seen some of them beat/keep up with WRX's that have had cobb flash 1. Hell even in my old STi, on the highway a suped up 06 RSX-S with hondata/i/h/e/p had no problems keeping up at my back bumper.
If you get a chance to drive an RSX-S, try it out. For a FWD car, it's suprisingly enjoyable in a sports car kind of way.
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LOL I thought you said who wants to run THEIR RSX AUTO against you... My bad.
Still, I'll offer the Grant to the driver of an RSX auto that might want to go against Stock TL-s
Still, I'll offer the Grant to the driver of an RSX auto that might want to go against Stock TL-s
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I had an 04 rsx with a type r swap and a toda race header,cai,ex and k-pro. My car was dyno tuned and it put out 220 whp and 148 tq. After the tune and swap that car was a monster. I raced many sti's and beat some and lost to others. I raced a hatch with a b18 type r and it gave me a good race.I raced a few a few v8's mustangs and they were shocked with the outcome. An rsx with boltons and proper tuning does alot. So i wouldnt sleep on the rsx's. Just for the record I raced plenty of tl's 3g's and 2g's with bolton's and i must say they werent much of a challenge, but then again there arent many aftermarket parts for the tl.
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