04TLBLack

Which one would you guys choose to run in YOUR TL???

TL_6SPD

Neither, I go with Amsoil. Amsoil is the best of the best.

mdlightning2002

mobil 1 just as good easy to find 0w-20

TL_6SPD

FYI, Mobil 1 is not just as good. It's good for just going to the store to get some, but if you really want a good oil, get Amsoil.

danno

I stop to get gas and see this P O S Caddy with 99% of it, covered in rust. I ask him what year and tells me 1977. He continues, and tells me its got 345,000 miles on it and doesn`t burn a drop of oil. The only oil he uses is Redline, in the motor, and in the tranny.

synoil

Redline, Royal Purple, Mobil 1. Hmmm.
I have used all but Royal Purple but have a friend who runs a
champ car who was using royal purple 20-50 racing oil swears after I recommended using Amsoil that the
temp went down at least 20 degrees. (oil temp). Same wt oils,
20W-50 racing.

I have been using synthetics since 1978 and have tried most of them. I feel Amsoil is the absolute best synthetic out there, bar none. Currently using Amsoil 0W-30 which is guaranteed to go
35,000 miles or one year, with filter changes only. To go that far
this oil must have the toughest, longest lasting additive packages available anywhere. Oil does not wear out, additives do.
So my vote would be:
1) Amsoil

This oil far exceeds the Acura life expectation cycle recommendations and could be called overkill. I will use this oil when I get my TL after break in. Most Acura dealers are using plain old valvolene 5W-30

synoil

Continuing my opinion on the above named oils:
1 Amsoil
2 Redling
3 Royal Purple
4 Mobil !
Now all these oils are excellent lubricants and perform well above
petro oils being offered in most dealer shops. Next get a filter
that has synthetic fibers as filtering media and antidrain valves
as well as pressure valves that allow oil to bypass the filtering media when the filter becomes clogged. I believe Amsoil and
Mobil have these filters. Hard Driver also is a very good one.

As I am a synthetic oil maven please ask any questions regarding
synthetic oils (full synthetics) and the new class of synthetics now
being included in the synthetic nominclature, class III. which are
really petro oil base stocks with very high viscosity indexes. These oil do perform well and are close to the full PAO synthetics in performance. However they are close but still not the best.
Craig Who by the end of March will get his WDP/5AT/NAVI/PARCHMENT. Will use either the Amsoil full synthetic 0W-30 , or the Amsoil class III 20W-30.
Craig

Woodstock

To be honest, I think that people get way too worked up over which oil. Just get a high grade (SG/SH?) and (IMO) you'll be fine. Everyone knows someone who used nothing but X and their car lasted 500K miles, but you know, there's a much bigger chance of something messing up due to a million other things that not using the "right" motor oil.

vtechbrain

Favorite API 5W20 and keep the rest of the money for the stripper bar!

04TLBLack

thanks guys for the repliez

Woodstock

LOL. Do they have those in Wisconsin?

caball88

which amsoil are you guys using the xl7500? or the 2000 series synthetic 0w30? the xl7500 comes in 5w20 but not the 2000 series.

synoil

Caball88,
The xl7500 is actually one of the "new synthetics" or class III engine oils. They are really high quality petro base stock oils with
very high viscosity index additives. These additives give the oil
near PAO (poly alpha olophin, or pure synthetic base stock) performance. Amsoil, RedLine and other pure synthetic blenders
fought this new oil classification as they were not pure synthetic but lost in court. To remain competetive Amsoil has come out
with there own and that's what the 7500 series is. It's a darn
fine oil, but I'll stick with the pure stuff thanks.
When I get my tl I'll probably use the Amsoil series 2000 0W-30.
Hope this helps,
Craig

vtechbrain

They have the biggest billboards around here! Hey were proud of our cheese and female milk producing organs!

Woodstock

And the best roadside greasy spoon restaurant in the US at Menomenie(sp?). Stopped there many a time traveling between StPaul and Chipawea Falls on bunsiness when I lived in MN.

04TLBLack

i love MN miss th state a lot. use to live in bloomington. ahhhhh snow snow snow great snow

vtechbrain

You just miss the ditzy blondes!! Youbetcha!

KilroyR1

As I understand it, both Amsoil and Mobil1 are PAO-based oils. These are group IV base-stocks. Better than Group III's like Amsoil 7500 and Castrol Syntec. I think Royal Purple has a full synthetic and a blend. I have no idea what base stock they use. Castrol, Valvoline, Quaker State, Pennzoil and Amsoil7500 use group III base stocks, why pay for synthetic and only get group III performance?

Redline is Ester-based. This is a group V base stock, and superior to the others. It's really expensive, so I only use it in my track bike. I don't want to lose a motor at 166mph into turn one at VIR. I use Mobil1 in my cars.

Cheers,

Don

honda loyalty

If it's good enough to be put in from the factory on all these cars it seems to be damn good enough for me... check it out


Mobil 1® comes as standard equipment in some of the finest production vehicles you can buy. It's "factory fill" in Chevrolet Corvette, all Porsches, Mercedes-Benz AMG models, Dodge Viper, Ford Mustang Cobra R and all Aston Martin cars. Here are some remarks from some of the top engineers and executives at these renowned manufacturers.

"Every car produced in the factory in Stuttgart gets its first oil from Mobil 1. And that means that all our cars and engines are developed with that product."
– Herbert Ampferer, Director,
Porsche Motorsports

"Mobil 1 is the only oil we use for our engines as the first filling. And then we put the sticker in the engine compartment just to make sure that people know what's in their engines."
– Domingos Piedade, Managing Director,
Mercedes-Benz AMG

"Based upon the results we saw several years ago in endurance racing with Team Shelby, we felt Mobil 1 could do the job in the Viper, Dodge's highest-performance sports car."
– Charlie Brown III, Viper Engine Supervisor,
DaimlerChrysler Corporation

tgt

iTrader: (1)

Craig -

As an aside, are you going to run synthetic from day 1? I've heard you should use non-syn for the first 5k miles or so to get everything sealed properly?

Also, do you follow the recommended 35k or 1 yr rule? Or change more often?

Thanks for your insight,
Travis

meathead

do they really have one in wausau? i thought you had to go to like outside of marshfield to find one.

synoil

Travis,
I will use the OEM oil that comes with the car until the car tells me to change it. This is hard for me as being so anal about oil I usually change it at 50 miles with another petro oil just to get the
products of manufacture out then go with synthetic (Amsoil) from then on.
I do use the 0W-30 that has a 35000 mile/one year quarantee but do so for the quality of the additive package in the oil.
We don't drive alot and usually average about 10k/year. I change it every 6 months regardless of milage.

Now I've never had a car that told me when to change it's oil.
Being on the ultra conservative side I'll do whatever comes first.

I believe a comment was made about Red line oil in the thread.
I used Red Line when I had my SHO and thought it was and is a fine product. I'm not sure it's a class V oil, but is an ester based synthetic. Esters were the first synthetics on the market. But like PAO's they have good traits and not so good traits.
What Amsoil does is blend the base stocks to achieve good results in all areas. I believe most Amsoil products have both
PAO's and some ester's in the base stock to achieve maximum
results.
Of all the synthetics out there Red Line is the other oil I would use if I couldn't get Amsiol.
Craig

rynpamn21

how much is amsoil for the 04 TL and what kind?

tgt

iTrader: (1)

Thanks for your reply Craig. Your info is much appreciated.

-Travis

pps

What kind of filter should be used with Amsoil 1?
Do you change the filter during the year? Or only when you change the oil?

Hybrid

In a way, that shows why synthetics may not always make sense. What's the point of having a "mint" engine in a car that long ago should have hit the crusher? The non-engine parts of the car aren't built to last a half-million miles (without lots of maintenance, repairs, replacements, TLC, and luck) so why focus on the engine to make it outlast the car?

synoil

hybrid,
I see what you are saying, but it's all in
personal choice in maintainence.
Synthetic oils also give better fuel ecomomy, engines run cleaner and pollute less. Vehicles are expensive and I keep mine at least 7 years. I try too chose a neat car that I will want to keep that long. In our throw away society I guess I'm a rebel.
Craig

honda loyalty

I think every person is different. It's all about your driving habbits. If you just do your little back and forth to work 5 days a week and to the store on weekends you probably won't see the point of higher engine protection. However, if you really push your car and enjoy redlining it and see yourself more on the right side of 60 than the left, then you might see the need. So don't think people are crazy or take it so personal because people want to pay a little extra for maximum protection.