Only if Arthur can chime in and update us as to what lines he is using.

I doubt that he made his regular SS lines for 3G TL work with the calipers as thats what I have and the tech said they wont work due to the flare.

REALLY REALLY hoping that the RL lines work

Here are two of his posts in his progress thread



and then the updated lines

Good stuff, JnC, I really hope those RL lines work for you!

(Read my PM, please! )

JnC... Maybe call XLR8 and ask them what Arthur ordered. I'm pretty sure they can help you. This is really helping people that are getting their bbk done.

I look at the product number on the bag. AC-1320 it is for a TL. XLR8 don't sell RL brake lines.

^^ I have already spoken to Josh at XLR8 and Marcus at HeelToe.

XLR8 does carry brake lines for the RL but they do not stock it and or advertise them on their website, its a special order that gets shipped directly from the manufacturer in CA.

The regular ones that they sell for the TL do not fit the caliper, I already found that out yesterday .

Damn... I was on XLR8 website searching for RL brake line... no wonder I didn't see them. Thanks for the heads up.

I took measurements yesterday, I'll update the thread with pictures later.

Thanks!

And was I right about only needing calipers, pads, lines, the bracket and new rotors?

^^ Yes.

1) Calipers
2) Lines
3) Rotors (I posted EBC part number on the previous page)
4) Pads, my calipers came with brand new OEM pads but i am not using them as I intend on having EBC red stuff on all four corners.
5) Brackets, when these first came out they were $100 plus shipping, currently they are going for $180 plus shipping.


Optional) Caliper rebuild kit.

Thanks!

Now we just need measurements.

If I want to run a 13" rotor, how will that effect the bracket? I read in the other thread "RL calipers on 3G TL" that he thinks you can just add a spacer, is that true?

^^ The RL caliper is radial mount, it can be used with rotors upto 14" in diameter but the problem is clearance.

The 12.8" ones give you enough clearance to use your OEM 17" wheels, I believe anything larger than that would require at least an 18" wheel.

Not a problem for me.

I see that most of you guys are going with EBC redstuff but has anybody else tried anything different like... hawk hps brake pads or stoptech?

I planned on using Brakemotive's pads

Arthur is using the brake motive pads and rotors and per him the front rotors are already warped, I was going with the brakemotive kit but decided against ex it as I just wanted slotted rotors and they don't offer that variation.

I would love to get a 2pc rotor but they cost a lot . I'm still deciding on rotor and brake pads but I'm leaning towards stoptech slotted rotor and brake pads.

Damn already warped? :/ I originally had a problem with mine but Sean @ Brakemotive was nice enough to send me another set and it cured my vibration problem. I planned on contacting him again for a set of RL pads and a front set of Mustang Cobra rotors. I haven't had my BM set on my TL for that long but so far I'm happy with them. I'm really just trying to keep costs down. If if go over $1k I mid as well have bought the XLR8 BBK for $1100 and called it a day.

I also considered contacting Adams Rotors as well. Still scoping out prices and such.

thanks jnc, i was actually wondering what lines i should get
here are mine, theyre on their way right now

What about the rear guys?? are you leaving the ugly rear caliper and the wimpy rotor?

I have the 14" front rotora bbk and it still bother me that I have the rear stock not to mention the huge bias I have in the front and that bother me a lot. What I can do? and where do I start? I have been researching and the only option for the rear I have is:

Rotora 2 piece - $2,100 [expensive as hell]

Wilwood r 4 pot $1,100 [want to use the 2 pot instead 4 pot]

RB Performance -1,200 [retain the stock caliper wtf??]

I guess I have to go with Evo X rear bbk and make a custom bracket.

I saw that on ebay but the price was pretty steep.

they're at least 300 everywhere i looked without any coating or paint so i thought the price was pretty fair, they were 350 but i probably could've got them cheaper if i waited for the listing to end but didn't want to risk it. I asked if he could change the letter coloring the red is kinda growing on me now though, if anyone can think of a better color i'm open to suggestions
was thinking about a shade of blue with some purple in it maybe

I like the RL calipers a lot. I will trade the TL type s brembo calipers for these!! LOL

Sorry guys Im on vacation and havent had time to stay connected to the forum. Have read the recent posts and for some that have been wondering what lines Arthur used, he told me to get the xlr8 ss lines for TL. As for the bracket it should be home but im out of the country to take pics or measurements. JNC great job so far, I cant wait to get home and get started. So again lines have to be for the TL as confirmed from Arthur but have to be from xlr8.

Got my calipers last night!! They're gigantic!

Hey sorry I haven't read this thread in a while.

I'm currently using the XLR8 SS lines for the 3G TL. I had no idea the flares didn't match up on the caliper side. I had issues installing the Russel SS lines as the flares didn't match up to the lines on the car.

I was a noob when it came to brake installs but the mechanic didn't mention to me the flares were different on the RL caliper. JnC.. let us know what you come up with. I'll check the fluid level when I get a chance today to see if it's low. I had the calipers on the car since August and I haven't had any problems yet.

I got to see the final project.

Are you guys doing the math for proper bias? If these calipers are being used with a bigger rotor they should have less piston area than what came with the car. Severe front bias sucks and it lengthens your stopping distances over stock. My Rotora BBK killed stopping distances compared to stock. The Stoptech balanced BBK drastically improved stopping distances compared to Rotora and slightly over stock. Once the tires were warm I was getting stopping distances in the low 90' range from 60mph. The Rotora kit was 30' longer!

If this is only a caliper change, it's a lot of work for very, very little gain. Only in pedal feel but your stopping distances and fade resistance will not change or will change for the worst.

^Lots of good information IHC, but I think most guys are doing this for looks instead of performance

I understand looks but not decreasing performance over stock, especially when we're talking about something like brakes. Physically bolting them up is only part of the battle. Proper bias is extremely important.

IHC to the rescue once again!

inb4 Austin sells his calipers because he has no idea what's hes doing

lol well before I sell them I'd like to see proof they decrease(increase?) the stopping distance.

so, Austin...go out and test stopping distance with your current setup.
60 - 0.
then get some one to do it that has the RL calipers. either Arthur or JnC

Uh oh

Okay I'm back.

RL Caliper = four 43mm pistons (5808.8 mm sq). TL Brembo = two 42mm & two 38mm piston (5039 mm sq). That's 15.3% more hydraulic area. Even to an idiot it should be plain to see you are increasing the front bias SUBSTANTIALLY just by switching installing RL calipers. But then you throw a 13 inch rotor on top of that??!?!?!? Now you are into complete Retardsville. This setup will DRASTICALLY upset bias, thereby increasing your minimum braking distance (maximum brake effort), and may even wreak havoc on your ABS system. Just ask IHC about his bogus Rotora kit. This is a terrible way to spend money and ruin a great car.

I'd rather be informed about what I'm doing than throwing these things on for looks alone. I'll be honest, I don't know much about brakes and thought adding more power to the front would help stopping power, thank you for proving that theory wrong.

I love you.

*cough* told ya so *cough*

I kind of feel bad now. I was hoping by chance the piston area would be similar or even less with the RL caliper but at least it will save people from wasting money. 94eg! is the bad guy, he posted the numbers lol.