Chriscapo

Is this anything that we have to be concearned about with our cars ? is it even possible , reason y im asking is my friend is about to buy an 07 TL from a dealer here in Phila it was used as a demo however there is only 887 miles on it < I was under the impression that it is Impossible to messw ith the milage on these car ... However i talked a tech at sussman acura that claims it very much can be done ... True or false?

OMP Prelude

ture , by changing the cluster to one that reads a lower milage

Patel0606

yea there are dealers out there that do that...i dont think it's too hard from what i've heard

jsong83

yes it can be done. and it doesnt have to be at the dealer. ive had friends who did it to their cars.

oh yea, tell your friend not to buy from sussman. the service dept are retards and the sales dept tries every trick in the book to screw you over. i wont even go back there even though i have free services for my 06 tl.

soli1978

I think this is a big flaw. It should have been easy to make it impossible to mess with the milage.

ankur914

but you know, if you think of a security, someone else is going to figure out a way to break thru that security.....just a viscious cycle...sucks., but oh welllllllll

lembowski

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My friend drives around in his new escalade with the whole dash control panel shut off, and a module that doesn't rack up the miles. Cost him $200 to get it and to have it put in. With a flip of a switch he doesn't accrue any miles.

SteveP66

Isn't this all illegal.......

ankur914

In Ford Taurus' that dont have the digital odo, you can pull a fuse to stop the odo from moving and racking up miles. A way to cheat on a lease LOL!

ankur914

damn skippity it is!

INSPIRE 32V

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Do u even have to ASK

SteveP66

Note to self - never buy a used Escalade from a guy in San Diego.....lol

SteveP66

Knowing it is why would you do it..........(not a question just a statement)

pekkieboyz

so does anythign know where i can get these type of instrument tha ti can install in my car so that the miles don't rack up?

Black-Balled

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Dammit, man! Why don't you ask if any hitmen are on the board?!

Tripp11

ankur914

Hahaha..better lock it before someone gets in trouble!

Slammed_JDM

Very Interested in this so please someone with an answer PM me Ill pay them for the solution lol

lembowski

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Actually a used Escalade from a Washington Redskins player

SteveP66

There is a guy named "Bubba" in cell block D that might give you the instructions if you are nice to him

sunny201

LMAO!


Yes it can be done. You just gotta know the right people. Usually somebody in the autobody industry would know how to, or would know who to recommend, as I know this for a fact. You also dont need to switch out the clusters, some can do it by attaching a laptop to it and changing the numbers to what they want. I dont know from prior experience so dont ask me anything about it!

And you can get into alotttaaaaa trouble doing it so i recommend not even thinking about it!!!

SteveP66

Odometer Tampering is a Federal crime

soli1978

It is a vicious cycle but at least they can make it sooo hard that a $200 addition will not be able to do it. This sucks man... How can you trust any milage now?? And even if this is a crime, I don't see anyway somebody will be caught if they are not very stupid.. Of course the 20 miles between oil changes should give a tip

lembowski

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Some of you guys act like this is the first time you've heard about this. This has been around a long time. I wouldn't be suprised if there weren't tens of thousands of vehicles out there that have been tampered with.

ankur914

and that is why i wont buy any car used...........................and buy only new ones that has all the wrapping on them (i.e. plastic on seats and body).............................Yes..That is how I picked the car I have today (black was my preference, and I got lucky!)

soli1978

The dealer can do it to your new car as well after driving it for a month... Nobody is safe

My old Accord was tampered with and I figured it out after I bought it. It was 12 years old so I did not care that much. I was just thinking that with the electronic milage keeping, it should have been harder to manipulate. It seems not.

HiTEC

I can't speak for Honda/Acura (I assume it's similar), but with Audi/VW products you need the dealer diagnostic software and you could have to purchase a new cluster. The cluster mileage can be rolled only forward and only done once. With Audi the mileage needs to be entered into the diag software in kilometers when rolling it fwd. I've seen techs who were doing a cluster replacement and they entered it in miles rather than km, and they then had to order another cluster and do it over again.

I'm assuming Honda is similar (roll forward only-once) and you probably also need the Honda Diagnostic software. This is not going to be done with generic OBD software.

ankur914

Oh, dont get me wrong, I completely agree with you! I figure with new cars with all the wrappings still on them, there is a less chance for someone to tamper with it, but as you said, they can still do whatever with the cars, wrapping or no wrapping ( I may have taken paranoia to a whole other level with my actions! LOL!)..... conclusion: deceptive people suck!

hottlon20's

Turning back the mileage im not sure of but not registering miles can be done on almost any car with a digital odometer I know a guy that does it. He installs a switch that when it is turned on it turns off your speedo and odometer thus your car doesn't register miles untill the switch is turned back off. He figured out how to do this because he was sick of going over the miles on his leases.

Xx06SickspdTlxX

Well anyways this is very illegal, by just replacing the gauge module doesnt reset or turn back the miles if a new module is installed it will probably read ---- until the actual mileage is unlocked and transferred using the HDS, it can probably be done by unplugging something in the vehicle possibly the output shaft (countershaft) speed sensor on the transmission, but not sure if the vehicles ecm will still record the mileage. But if this is done the odometer and spedometer wont read!