SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

you read it right. it was about a week ago. the guy flew up behind me on a nice, straight 2-lane road and then cut left to hit the passing lane. i figured "what the hell" and wailed on the gas as soon as he cut over. i was doing 65 to begin with and he pulled quick and hard on me until his rear bumper was at my front bumper, at that point i pulled up next to his rear passenger door and stayed there until about 110mph when we stopped.

now i've been wailed on twice recently by a new maxima on the same road. the thing is uncatchable. i never thought it would happen with the 2.5S (which was brand new. 2006 model). do they make turbos for that thing? or is nissan really stepping up the ante on their new engines?

SSTS

ps - i dyno'd 215whp/210wtq with my headers on, the new altima 2.5S is rated at 170hp/180ft-lbs. although the curb weight is only 3090lbs for the automatic. now i really need to scratch my head.

THE TURBONATOR

your car is broke! the 4 cylinder altima?!

I played with my buddies 02 2.5 altima and there wasn't a speed that I couldn't drop the hammer and pull away ... my car an 02 TL-P with K&N drop in

??

heavily modded maybe

Edward'TLS

Your stereo stuff is weighing your car down.

blktl1

a tl-s should easily pul away from a 2.5. are you sure you did leave your ebrake on or something ......j/k anyway i would have your car checked or something

sbuswell

that is crazy..........your car is not running well at all. I beat 3.5 AT altima's all day in my 99. I've never raced an MT 3.5, but I think it would be close.

F23A4

...outside chance he may have been boosting. I recall briefly reading about one turbo kit (for the QR25DE) that puts out ~250whp @ .5 bar. THAT could pull a TL-S.

03CoupeV6

I stomp 2.5S Altimas regularly in my stock TL-P.

Edit: and the new Maxima should not beat a TL-S by much, if at all.

ewbuster

I maybe new at this but what is the difference between the TL and the TL-S?

chewi

did he fly by you already before you even tried to catch up?
its not a fair race if he was already flying by you with a good 3 cars lead before you start catching up.

ResidualFreedom

I recently beat a camero on the highway...

Coming back from work on the 407 here in toronto, I;m cruizing in the fast lane approaching this camero doing 120-130km (km x 0.6 = miles,so that's about 75mi). The camero is very slowly passing the car ing the 2nd lane, while there is noone in the outside (third lane). I casually change over to the 2nd lane, then as the roads starts a slight left bend I go to the outside third lane. I notice that camero has finally started to speed up( now that I have already changed lanes...*arg!*) Once I got into the third lane I saw my next opening in traffic, back into the 1st (fast lane) infront of the camero, but now the gap is slowly closing.. so I downshift to 3rd and let her rip , I'm soaring around the bend and pushing 170-180 in the third lane, cut back into the 1st lane (comfortably in front of the camero) then I swing back two lanes to the outside lane then back into the fast lane (momentairly look down to see the speedo clocking 210-215). The camero decide to punch it after I did, plus I was traveling at a higher momentum, even though he had the bigger engine, he wasn't able to "instantly" close the gap even with the HP and toruqe difference.

Do I think the camero was racing me fairly? No..he definetly didn't want me to pass, but due to the RPMs and the speed I was going when he decided to puch it he was too late to do anything but be my shadow...

If we would have lined up going 100km and then honked and pinned it, he would have left me in the dust I know, but just because he's got a bigger engine doesn't mean anything when the two cars are traveling at different speeds.. He made his jump too late and I was in the optimum range, it's as simple as that , I don't have a faster car then a V8 camero..

So in short the 2.5S could have beat the TL-s but it was A race, most likely not an even jump, addditionally most likely not the same starting speeds..

chewi

I totally agree with you

THE TURBONATOR

TL-P - 225 hp
TL-S - 260 hp

some other minor differences...stock wheels, seats, suspension

I agree Freedom

SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

well i know the car is running right because i drive if every day and i'm quite attentive to how it runs and whether it needs something, and my stereo stuff only weighs 30-40lbs because i have only a 10 inch sub.

the guy must have been modded. he was behind me and cut left. we were both at 65 and i floored it as soon as he reached the left lane ::shrugs:: he never pulled in front of me though so it's not as if he blew me away. the farthest he got was his rear bumper to my front bumper by the time i hit the gas and the car shifted. then i pulled to his front door and stayed there the whole time. now i dunno what would have happend above 110mph since i shut it down but i suspect i would have begun pulling by then.

and the maxima i'm sure is modded because this thing is like a blur going by me on the road. i just wish i would run into those guys to talk to them some time.

maybe he gassed it earlier than i thought. i just dunno.

SSTS

CL Platano

He had to be seriously modded because like previously posted not even the V6 Altima is too much work. He may have had too much of a headstart and 4th gear killed you.

Actuary

thats unbelievable, unless you were in 3k RPM when you started whole thing.

reloaded

How bout the Altima 3.5 V6 and SE-R's? How does the TL-S hold up with them?

I had a lil run in with a red SE-R but the guy didn't really want to punch the car all the way since it was brand new.

Mike

you'd better run them from a roll to have a chance. their torque advantage will get you everytime. i wouldn't even bother unless your 6mt or an auto with i/h.

chewi

IT could be a 3.5 V6 ALTIMA with 2.5S badging LOL...

it would be funny if you debadged your TYPE-S sticker so that he thinks you have a TL-P....

both of you guys would be surprised

THE TURBONATOR

that would be great....a 3.5 v6 sleeper with the 2.5s badging ...I've seen stranger

F23A4

The exhaust would still betray it as a 3.5L. .....I've seen Stang GT guys trying to do similar things by making their GT appear as a 3.8L V6 sleeper...again: exhaust gives it away..

CL Platano

word 2.5 single outlet
3.5 dual outlet

2K2SilverTL-S

I would get your actuator checked out. Some TL-S's have this problem that kills VTEC.

I pull away from my cousins 3.5 SE Auto altima all the time in my TL-S. There is absolutely NO reason you should lose to a 2.5, even turbo or NOS.

Actuary

well u could cut one exaust lol

(or put those custom V6 double exahust)

that would be extreme case of debadging.



back to thread,

SE-R and those things will be pretty close race. You better be MT is right.

bkzjimmy

i looked this up (board!)

Car-Stats.com Report for 2002 Acura 3.2TL Type S
Obtained from R&T July, 2001
0-60: 6.2 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.8
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Nissan Altima 3.5 SE
Obtained from R&T February, 2003
0-60: 7.1 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 15.4
1/4 Speed: 91

Car-Stats.com Report for 2002 Nissan Altima SE
Obtained from MT May, 2002
0-60: 6.6 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 15
1/4 Speed: 94

F23A4

Realistically, automatic Altima 3.5Ls run closer to the 14.6-14.8 range with traps bet. 92-94mph (similar to the 02-03 Maxima 4AT, of which I own one.) If that Altima ran 15.4@91mph (above), it must have been on 87 octane.

Monte TLS,MAX

Agreed, and that TLS time was never duplicated any where else, I have noticed on this board that people tend to put the best time they can find for the Acuras and the worst for the competition in lots of cases! We all know 02+ Maxima and 02 + V6 Altima pull much better low to mid range and TLS's 04+TL's high end.

drcookie

The dude must have sprayed !!!
Just my $0.02.

sbuswell

those times were from a nuetral source. no one was trying to find the slowest time for the altima 3.5 or the fastest for the TL-S. and stock the average altima is not going to crack 15 in the 1/4 and definitely not between 14.6-14.8. A stock TL-S will beat a stock altima 3.5 AT in the 1/4. now if it were a MT 3.5 altima then I believe 14.6-14.8 is very reasonable maybe even 14.5.

F23A4

14.6-14.8 sec ETs occur routinely with the Altima 3.5 AT.

I ran in the 14.7-14.8 range (02 Maxima SE 4AT) consistently when I was stock. I've only had four runs where I ran 15.0 or slower: a) when I had 800 miles on the odo I made 3 runs bet 15 flat and 15.2 AND b) when I ran a 16.4 sec ET because my MAF sensor blew at the 1/8 mile mark. Out side of that, I only need decent traction to run quicker than 15-flat. ...and I'm not exactly the quickest 5.5G Maxima (which itself has an identical powertrain to the 02-04 Alti 3.5SE).

3.5SE Altimas with an MT run at least 14.5 with a semi-decent driver, where some stockers run as slow as 14.2. (I havent seen how the newer Altima SE-Rs run at the track yet.)

youngTL

The 3.5 is not in question here. The TL-S should easily be able to beat an Altima 2.5S. I beat the 2.5S in my 2.5TL all the time if they're automatic like me. (My car is 176hp/170lb-ft torque).

03CoupeV6

F23A4 was just correcting another member who made incorrect statements about Nissan 3.5 V6 cars.

F23A4

Thank you.

sbuswell

Incorrect my ass. If a stock 3.5 altima AT is running 1/4 in 14.6-14.8 then my 99 is running under 14.5 easy and maybe it is, I need to go to the track. My car pulls on a 3.5 AT pretty easily and pulls on the maxima AT too. I figured my car was around 14.8(guesstimate) but hopefully I underestimated my car. still I don't think I needed to be corrected. If a viable source ran a 3.5 AT altima 1/4 at 15.4 it would be strange for someone running the same car at 14.6, that is a huge difference. maybe this source ran a brand new altima while the 14.6-14.8 altima was sufficiently broken in, but still that is too large a disparity to understand.

03CoupeV6

Altima 3.5SE manual runs mid, and sometimes low, 14s. Altima 3.5SE automatic runs high 14s. These are the specs I've always seen and they DO make sense. Not only does it have 246lb-ft of torque down low, but it also is 200-250lbs lighter than the TL.

The combination of lighter weight and superior torque cannot be ignored.

sbuswell

I can't wait to see what my car runs as the tracks, I am now gunning for 14.4, let's see if a 99 TL can do it.

SatinSilverTypS

iTrader: (1)

been away for a few days, let me hope back in here....

i am quite convinced the car is running right. i wish i would run into this guy in town so i could talk to him. maybe i should bring the car back to the dyno anyway and see what's up.....

i'm willing to bet he was spraying a small shot (as was suggested earlier) or had a decent turbo. it's not like he put distance between us, so it's conceivable. the maxima on the other hand....i happen to think he was using a big shot or had some serious boost going on because that guy is quick....

i dunno. maybe my tranny is fried. i suppose it's worth a look.

SSTS

F23A4

My 02 Maxima (along with MANY other AT 5.5G Maximas and 3.5SE Altimas) run this consistently.

Stock= unlikely

You should go to the track; it will the be the reality check you need. I'd offer to race you but I already have a few mods (Y-pipe/UR pulley/Injen CAI) so I'd probably obliterate you. However, I've driven the 99-00 TL-P enough times to be confident that my 02 Maxima could take down even in stock trim.

All this said, you are comparing your presupposition with the track experiences of others and myself. Bottomline: Talk is cheap, get to the track.

acurabum

Could I ask how you guys downshilft to 3th gear while cruising and decide
to race ?? Were you all ready in SS mode or D5 ? Is it save to change from D5
to SS mode while cruising at 65 miles/hour ??
Got a 02 TL-P and need to know ?

Viscous

It's fine to switch to SS from D5 while going 65mph. The SS mode will just pick up from whatever gear the automatic mode is already in (probably 5th if you were just cruising)

Once you are in SS mode and want to downshift, just let off the gas and do it.

snowman81

Damn...sorry to hear it man. Doesn't sound right though. I've raced my friends 05 Maxima SE 6MT and pulled away fairly easily. Of course it may just be the drivers or a million other variables...but I think you should pull on a 2.5 pretty easy.