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Old 04-15-2004, 01:56 PM
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Question for those with EZPASS

I was reading the post on the center console compartment use.

Someone had said that they put there EZPASS tags in the center console.

My question is, Does the tags register from inside the compartment when driving through the tolls? Do they also work on the express tolls where you drive through at 55 mph?

I don't want to have to mount mine ont he windshield. Even if I got the suction cup ones, they are just ugly and a pain to move on and off.

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by HuKaShI
My question is, Does the tags register from inside the compartment when driving through the tolls? Do they also work on the express tolls where you drive through at 55 mph?
Really questionable! You must have the EZPASS register as close to your window as possible. Do not forget that on your EZPASS you just have a magnetic strip. If you bury it under the compartment you cannot be sure that it will interact with the field emmited from the tolls.
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i was the one who places the EZpass in the center console. it does not register with the toll booth. i just place it there because i don't like it constantly stuck on the winshield. i take it out everytime i have to use it(which is not many). i don't know if it will work in the 55mph EZpass in the console.
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Originally Posted by HuKaShI
I was reading the post on the center console compartment use.

Someone had said that they put there EZPASS tags in the center console.

My question is, Does the tags register from inside the compartment when driving through the tolls? Do they also work on the express tolls where you drive through at 55 mph?

I don't want to have to mount mine ont he windshield. Even if I got the suction cup ones, they are just ugly and a pain to move on and off.

Thanks!
The pass won't work when it's buried. Need to have it facing the receptor when approaching the gate.

I never keep mine glued to the windshield tho. I put it up when I need it and stow it away when not.
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I never keep mine glued to the windshield tho. I put it up when I need it and stow it away when not.
I heard that was illegal but I do it anyway.
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They also make one that goes behind your front license plate.

As for the windshield mounted one (with velcro), you really do not notice it, the upper tint of the windshield hides it from the outside. Of course it will be visable from the inside, but hey everyone has one.

Once you mount it why would you have to take in on and off ?
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I heard that was illegal but I do it anyway.
Cops see me do it every day for the last 3 years (Holland Tunnel). Never has anyone told me that it wasn't legal.

Come to think of it, that's 365 times 3. Why don't I just keep it glued?
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lol if you do it that many times I might consider putting it on there. I use it every so often. A few ppl told me that was the case. I guess the cops don't give a shit unless they are pissed off and want to take it out on someone.
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Agree with Roadman, not really noticable from the outside due to the tint in most cars. On the inside you see it but if you stick it above the mirror it is not that noticeable.
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Originally Posted by roadman
They also make one that goes behind your front license plate.

As for the windshield mounted one (with velcro), you really do not notice it, the upper tint of the windshield hides it from the outside. Of course it will be visable from the inside, but hey everyone has one.

Once you mount it why would you have to take in on and off ?
I mounted mine behind my rear view mirror and I barely see it from the inside.
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I painted my tolltag flat black and velcroed behind the rear view mirror.

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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I heard that was illegal but I do it anyway.
i remember people talking about this. what they were saying was that people would drive by without puting the ezpass to the window.
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Originally Posted by Bxscig
I heard that was illegal but I do it anyway.
The NYS Thruway Authority does say in its materials and website that holding up the pass to the window is illegal, but I see lots of people doing it and have never heard of anyone being fined.

But like others, I have it attached behind the rear view mirror (half way in the dark tint and half in the normal glass) and I cannot see it at all.....sometimes I reach up to make sure it's still there.
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does the ezpass work if it is behind the dark tint band on the windshield?
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In Florida, we have a SunPass. I assume it is the same thing as the EZ Pass. On my car, I just used a universal radar detector suction mount holder from Radio Shack. I velcro the SunPass to the plate of the holder and presto! The SunPass is on the windsheild (behind the rear view mirror) and not glued to the glass.
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I put it behind the mirror, too... it is hiden well.


BTW, it's really illegal if the pass is not sticked when the car passes the gates. However, it's just like other higher-level traffic law, tons of ppl in NYC violate them everyday. They illegally U turns, make right turn on red, double parking... What's the big deal! :goldfish:

NYPD or whoever they are, they are never really enforcing anything hard, except authorities have requested or it's in the Zero-tolerance period.
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Originally Posted by PoochaKannInc
does the ezpass work if it is behind the dark tint band on the windshield?
Mine is half in the dark tint, half in normal glass and I've had no problems. My guess is it would still work if the entire pass is secured in the dark tint, but I cannot confirm this.
Old 04-16-2004, 12:37 PM
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The EZPass people say the interior unit won't work with the '02-'03 TL's (hence why I have the exterior one). Not sure if this applies to the '04 TL or not.
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I have a windshield transponder (my minivan) and a front plate mount transponder (Maxima). With the windshield transponder, you can easily mount it so that its TOTALLY obscured by the rear view mirror. When I'm in my van, I CANT see it at all.

Also, to those folks that keep their transponders in the center console only to whip it out @ the plaza: some of you are REALLY slow on the draw!! Very annoying. I mean, they pull up to the plaza and then all of a sudden realize that they need the transponder---as if the big white/purple sign (which says EZ-PASS) wasnt noticeable upon approach from a distance.
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Just went to the NY transit authority website. Saw nothing about it being illegal. Only thing it says is that you SHOULD have it mounted so that it reads it properly and you don't hold up traffic.

Put it right behind the rear view mirror. You will hardly even notice it inside and out of the car.
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Originally Posted by scottt
The EZPass people say the interior unit won't work with the '02-'03 TL's (hence why I have the exterior one). Not sure if this applies to the '04 TL or not.

IMO, most of 04TLers have successful experiences with E-ZPass so far.
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Originally Posted by VQ35DE
...some of you are REALLY slow on the draw!! Very annoying. I mean, they pull up to the plaza and then all of a sudden realize that they need the transponder---as if the big white/purple sign (which says EZ-PASS) wasnt noticeable upon approach from a distance.

:lol2:

True, some ppl really slow us down by this...
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Originally Posted by 95gt
Just went to the NY transit authority website. Saw nothing about it being illegal. Only thing it says is that you SHOULD have it mounted so that it reads it properly and you don't hold up traffic.
c) If you attempt to use a Tag without properly attaching it to your vehicle, you may incur an administrative fee of up to $50.

This is the only one related. However, howeer, I do remember E-ZPassNY mailed me a letter many years ago, the violations/policy about not attaching Tag properly in the windshield... that letter detailed this issue clearly.

Anyway, since no police enforce this regulation at this moment, don't worry. The regulation may be waived. If unfortunately caught, police would tell drivers what's going on.
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The Triboro, Throgs Neck, Whitestone, are the only places I have seen that enforce the "must be attached" law. Cops have been seen standing issueing tickets to people who hold their pass.
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The reason for the regulation is that a solo driver holding the thing up is not fully attending to the road and only has one hand on the wheel.

I'm not saying I personally support this concept, but that is why the regulation exists. In which case, it should be OK for a passenger to hold it up. It isn't, by the way, but probably only to keep the regulation simple.
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Originally Posted by roadman
Cops have been seen standing issueing tickets to people who hold their pass.

AAAAAMMMMMMEEEEEEENNNNNNN
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the dark tint on the windshield shouldnt stop the ezpass from working, b/c the ezpass sends the signal of your billing info with radio waves so it shouldnt stop it from working.
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Originally Posted by scottt
The EZPass people say the interior unit won't work with the '02-'03 TL's (hence why I have the exterior one). Not sure if this applies to the '04 TL or not.
The interior unit works fine on my '02 TL-S. I've got it right behind the rearview mirror--half in the tint and half out, just below the metal matrix behind the rearview.
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Originally Posted by 95gt
Just went to the NY transit authority website. Saw nothing about it being illegal. Only thing it says is that you SHOULD have it mounted so that it reads it properly and you don't hold up traffic.
From the EZ-Pass Guide Book:

Doing the following may not allow the antenna to read your
E-ZPasstag and could result in toll evasion violations and
administrative fees:
• Not installing your tag or improperly installing your
tag.
• Installing the tag in a location other than where the
instructions indicate it should be installed.
• Holding your tag in your hand or waiving it when
traveling through lanes.

IMPORTANT:
-Tags may be installed and used immediately upon
acquiring them.
-Tags must not obstruct the driver’s line of sight through
the windshield and must not be installed on the mirror, visor
or dashboard.
-Please install tags properly. If more adhesive mounting
strips are needed for other vehicles or if you have a
problem installing the tags, assistance is available by
calling 1-888-AUTO-TOLL(1-888-288-6865).
-Tags must be installed. Leaving tags on a seat, dashboard
or console and holding it up to the windshield at the last
second is not safe and may result in delays, violations and
administrative fees.

-Tags installed incorrectly or not at all can cause unnecessary
issuance of toll evasion violations or delays at the toll booth.
-Tags must not be held in your hand. Doing so may result
in toll evasion violations and administrative fees.
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Originally Posted by tlxlr8s
the dark tint on the windshield shouldnt stop the ezpass from working, b/c the ezpass sends the signal of your billing info with radio waves so it shouldnt stop it from working.
No, but this is on the EZ-Pass web site as well:

Special Vehicle Listing: Exterior Tags Required as of 1/03

The vehicles listed below are equipped with special windshields that contain metal in the glass(metal oxide) that prevents the E-ZPass tag from being read properly. Windshields with solar ray glass, solar tint, heated or heat reflective windshields, and insulated or Insta-Clear glass may also prevent the tag from being read properly. Customers with these windshields might need to obtain exterior tags. If you are unsure about whether your vehicle has one of the mentioned features, contact the dealer where you purchased your car. This vehicle list may change. If you have any questions regarding your vehicle, call the New Jersey E-ZPass Customer Service Center at 1-888-AUTO-TOLL
(1-888-288-6865).
First two models listed (alphabetically) are Acura 3.2CL and 3.2L '02-'03. However, as I posted above, it works fine in my '02.
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Originally Posted by pianoman41
From the EZ-Pass Guide Book:
From the EZ-Pass Guide Book:

Doing the following may not allow the antenna to read your
E-ZPasstag and could result in toll evasion violations and
administrative fees:
• Not installing your tag or improperly installing your
tag.
• Installing the tag in a location other than where the
instructions indicate it should be installed.
Holding your tag in your hand or waiving it when
traveling through lanes.

IMPORTANT:
-Tags may be installed and used immediately upon
acquiring them.
-Tags must not obstruct the driver’s line of sight through
the windshield and must not be installed on the mirror, visor
or dashboard.
-Please install tags properly. If more adhesive mounting
strips are needed for other vehicles or if you have a
problem installing the tags, assistance is available by
calling 1-888-AUTO-TOLL(1-888-288-6865).
-Tags must be installed. Leaving tags on a seat, dashboard
or console and holding it up to the windshield at the last
second is not safe and may result in delays, violations and
administrative fees.

-Tags installed incorrectly or not at all can cause unnecessary
issuance of toll evasion violations or delays at the toll booth.
-Tags must not be held in your hand. Doing so may result
in toll evasion violations and administrative fees.
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Originally Posted by pianoman41
From the EZ-Pass Guide Book:

Everyone actually reading this before you post? The fees you would get are if it does not register with the system when you are waving it through the window. Not that it is illegal to use it like that. Notice the writing.

Tags must be installed. Leaving tags on a seat, dashboard
or console and holding it up to the windshield at the last
second is not safe and MAY result in delays, violations and
administrative fees.

Edit: Not that i understand why people don't just install them but from this it is not illegal just not recommended
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The way I read the paragraph that starts with "Tags must be installed..." implies that a fee MAY be imposed unrelated to whether or not the toll is properly recorded.

Besides, these guidelines are put out by EZPass. Individual states could have more restrictive laws, including an actual law against holding the thing up to the window or not having it installed. Unless someone can say for sure that they know every traffic law in their state(s), we still don't have a definitive answer to this question.

I wonder in which state that cop was handing out tickets, and what infraction is listed on the ticket?
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Originally Posted by TLGator
Besides, these guidelines are put out by EZPass. Individual states could have more restrictive laws, including an actual law against holding the thing up to the window or not having it installed. Unless someone can say for sure that they know every traffic law in their state(s), we still don't have a definitive answer to this question.
Interestingly, Illinois seems to be more lenient. They actually give you extra hook and loop fasteners ("velcro" strips) for any extra vehicles you have. You only need one transponder for up to four vehicles--they actually encourage you to swap vehicles unless you have need to use the transponders in multiple vehicles at the same time. I just pass straight through Chicago when I travel, so I got one transponder for my 2 vehicles.
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Dirac - I think EZPass in general allows the use of the transponder in multiple vehicles, provided you have registered the vehicles with EZPass. Installation of the transponder is not permanent since it's held in place by Velcro. But a lot of us don't want to stick the Velcro strips on the window in the first place. And a lot of us don't like having the transponder up on the window - it's ugly.

But the potential "legal" issue - which may or may not exist, it doesn't seem clear from the discussion so far - is that if you haven't put up the Velcro or suctions cups or something else, you have to hold the transponder in your hand as you drive through the toll. I was thinking this might be "illegal" for safety reasons. But it may be nothing more than a regulation to prevent people driving through without the toll recording properly.

Personally I am not going to install the damn thing - I only use it once a week or so. I'll just keep holding it up to the windshield, which seems to work fine anyway.
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Originally Posted by TLGator
Dirac - I think EZPass in general allows the use of the transponder in multiple vehicles, provided you have registered the vehicles with EZPass. Installation of the transponder is not permanent since it's held in place by Velcro. But a lot of us don't want to stick the Velcro strips on the window in the first place. And a lot of us don't like having the transponder up on the window - it's ugly.
Ok, I got the impression that you had to have it permanently adhered to the windshield. I might do that with my I-Pass... kind of ugly to have it sticking up there all the time.
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So, despite what it says on the EZPass web site, nobody seems to have had any trouble with it being read when stuck on the windshield behind the mirror on the 2004 TL, right? I have a 2000 TL and have no problems with the tag mounted on the windshield. I've got a 2004 on order and I'd really rather not have the license plate mounted unit. It seems kind of vulnerable sitting outside the car and the forward-most item on the vehicle.
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Originally Posted by iceneedle
So, despite what it says on the EZPass web site, nobody seems to have had any trouble with it being read when stuck on the windshield behind the mirror on the 2004 TL, right? I have a 2000 TL and have no problems with the tag mounted on the windshield. I've got a 2004 on order and I'd really rather not have the license plate mounted unit. It seems kind of vulnerable sitting outside the car and the forward-most item on the vehicle.

Right, so far everyone seems ok, no matter where you mount E-ZPass on your windshield... even on those black dots behind the rearview mirror...
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Originally Posted by scottt
The EZPass people say the interior unit won't work with the '02-'03 TL's (hence why I have the exterior one). Not sure if this applies to the '04 TL or not.
I had an '03 TL-S before my current '04 TL and the EZPass worked fine mounted to the windshield -- as it does in the '04.


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