Suprstar

Hey guys, I was wondering is it possible to purchase 5K LED fogs from V-LEDS for our cars? If so, what bulb would I need?

BTW, I live in NYC so it will be purely cosmetic

Suprstar

This is for an '07 TL.

Also, no LED strip just real fogs. Thanks guys.

AUTO Design

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Yes Its possible to put LED in the fog lights. City light, turn signal, reverse light, even interior lights too!

guitarplayer16

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Yeah, buy H8.

Suprstar

V-LEDS. has H8 bulbs as HID's. I don't want those.

What about these: http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-Bulbs/DRLFOG-LED/9006/5K-WHITE-28-LED-13W-DRLFOG-p8022473-1-2.html#ReviewsTabAnchor

Will they work?

guitarplayer16

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Just telling you your bulb size is H8.

Don't know if those 9006 (aka HB4) will work, but mainly the difference is H8 is 35watts and 9006 is 55watts. We're talking LEDs here so wattage is a lower though.
Personally, I'd assume they don't work but who knows.

Please don't complain here if you bought the wrong bulb size.

Suprstar

Manual says and I quote "12V - 54W (HB4)". HB4 on V-LEDS shows 9006. I'm assuming it's those but I'm not sure.

GuitarPlayer, the only thing V-LEDS shows for the H8 are HIDs.

guitarplayer16

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You have an 07 TL.

The lower fogs are H8, not to mention they are 35watt.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-acura-tl-bulb-sizes-list-3g-garage-g-077-a-691135/

The DRL is HB3/9005

The manual shouldn't be showing HB4 for anything.

That's why we're here, right?
To save you from buying the wrong bulb =)

Suprstar

I'm just going by what the manual says bro.


So now what? Acurazine guys saying H8, manual saying HB4. I'm totally confused.

vietxquangstah

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Osram Sylvania also lists H8.... but who knows? Sometimes they list the wrong bulbs on there also...

hmmm...

guitarplayer16

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READ THIS THREAD FIRST:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-problems-fixes-114/fog-lamps-07-tl-s-specs-incorrect-758061/

Then go over these threads:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/07-tl-fog-light-size-812157/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/2007-tl-fog-light-bulb-replacement-729606/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/2007-tl-fog-light-bulb-624827/
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/bulb-recommendation-07-tl-s-fog-lights-619195/

Convincing enough?

And you're welcome in advance =)
That's why we're here.
We just saved you from buying the wrong bulbs and finding that out the hard way.

vietxquangstah

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Say "Thank you guitarplayer16"

Suprstar

So H8 is fine then. I needed a harness for my DRL....do I need one for the fogs too?

Are there any other reputable sites that sell LEDs?

guitarplayer16

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Suprstar, H8 isn't "fine". It IS the bulb size.
What is not "fine" is buying a HB4 bulb and find out it doesn't work.

http://www.jlclightings.com/Super-Br...-p/sku_079.htm

'Welcome =)

Suprstar

Thanks for the help.

EL_PIC

You might what to consider the tint with your LEDs...
Yellow tint increases ground foilage contrast - thats why hunters and shooters wear yellow glasses. Pilots wear blue cause thats best for aviators up in the sky.

Suprstar

EL, thanks for the advice but the fogs are for cosmetic purposes only.

KJ TL-S

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Hey guitarplayer, do you know if those LED bulbs you linked to are truly just plug and play, no ballast required? It doesn't seem to be listed anywhere on the site that ballasts are included. I just tried installing HID Fogs from HIDExtra last night, but one of the bulbs was broken, so I'm back to stock for now.

Also, anyone use these yet? Do we know if they put out a nice amount of light for fog light purposes? From what I've read, it sounds like at least the CREE LEDs weren't working great for back up lights necessarily due to putting out just a directed beam of light and not reflecting at all. Also, please correct me if I'm wrong and there are good LED reverse lights, I would be interested in that as well.

Suprstar

I just bought these for my reverse light: http://www.v-leds.com/Exterior-LED-B...-p9507296.html

Pretty good so far.

KJ TL-S

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I think I had looked at those too. Do you have the backup camera by chance? I just remembered that was the other concern with these x that they didn't illuminate that well for the camera. Thanks.

vietxquangstah

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I have a back-up camera and CREE LED reverse lights and I love em.

I would like to see how those 7W $50 LED's look on the back up camera screen though.

Suprstar

Yup, I have a backup cam. The V-LEDs work very well with them.

U want me to post pictures?

vietxquangstah

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PLEASE???? At night preferably so I know what I will be seeing on the navigation screen while backing up.

Can you take more than 1 so I can get a good idea before spending $50 on some lights?

KJ TL-S

iTrader: (9)

+1, I'm in for night pics too, both from outside the car and on the backup cam. Thanks!

Suprstar

Sure. I'll take some tonight.

Suprstar

Here you go.

I inserted a pic of my V-LEDS license plate lights also just to show you how bright they are in combination with the reverse lights. Last pic is the night vision backup cam.

Goodbye piss yellow lights.

vietxquangstah

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Ahhh.. That kind of helps... You definitely don't have the stock back-up camera, you said yours is the night-vision back up camera so i can't really tell how those LEDs would look on my stock back-up camera since it's not night vision...

They do look bright as fuck, but like I said I can't really tell because your also parked on a street surrounded by street lights. I was hoping to see them in action in a pitch black area with no surrounding light posts, but thanks for posting those pictures up.

I'm still not sold on them just yet, so I'll just wait until someone else with the stock back-up camera buys them and posts pictures for me.

KJ TL-S

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Thanks for the pics. I have the LED License Plate and Interior lights coming in the mail tomorrow, I figure maybe my backup lights will be next. How was the install of your backup lights, are they just plug and play? Difficult to install? Also, by night vision cam, do you just mean night vision due to super bright lights, or do you have a special cam?

And also on the main topic of the thread, anyone running the LED fogs from JLC mentioned above? Do you need any harnesses/ballasts to run them?

Suprstar

No problem guys.

The reverse lights are plug & play and are super easy to install.

My navi and backup cam were installed aftermarket by Martin. The camera is same one from this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-audio-bluetooth-electronics-navigation-94/check-out-backup-camera-773094/

As for the JLC LED fogs, I really wanna know if you need a harness for them?

vietxquangstah

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If you noticed, his back up camera shows the parking lines in yellow. Our stock back-up cameras do not have any lines at all. Therefore his is a aftermarket camera like he mentioned.

Since he has a aftermarket camera, it's kind of hard to tell how effective those LEDs actually are because 1. His back-up camera video quality may be way superior than ours, so even though it may look great and clear on his it may not look the same on our stock back-up camera. 2. He's on a street with light posts every 20 feet so there's extra light on the street kind of helping illuminate the area.

Suprstar

Look at first and third pic. Even the amber street lights are overpowered by the brightness of the reverse lights.

In the third pic, look at my headlights and reverse lights.

KJ TL-S

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So you are happy with your CREE LEDs? What kind and where did you get them? Are they less expensive than the $50 set?

08TList

iTrader: (-1)

these get my vote about to order em now and some yellow tint film. ive got nokya hyper yellows in my fogs and love em but i wanna see how the cree h8s work out in the fogs

08TList

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-H8-CREE-Q...#ht_4241wt_990

vietxquangstah

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I bought them from here

http://www.jlclightings.com/CREE-Q5-...-p/sku_127.htm

There is a vendor on here that goes by the name "Kinetic" you should PM him and ask him what's the best price he can give you. He's a vendor for JLC Lighting.

I like them, but as you (or someone else) mentioned the JLC Reverse lights are directional and only point straight forward so on the navigation screen all you really see is a bright white hotspot in the center of the navi.

I want to get those 7W LEDs since they are 360 style and light up the whole reverse light housing so it looks like the light will be spread more evenly. I'll go take some pictures right now of my CREE LED Reverse lights for you to see. Major hot spotting, but it's pretty damn bright.

vietxquangstah

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Brakes applied


No brakes, only reverse lights


Also no brakes applied, only reverse lights


Like I said, they are very directional and only light up one spot on the navi. However when you look through the rear view you will notice that it really does light up the whole area behind the car. The navi back-up camera doesn't really pick it up that well though, instead you just see a hot-spot of bright white light in the center.

I'm looking for some new reverse lights that will evenly light up the whole area of the screen without being too overpowering white (I still want to be able to make out objects and judge my distance)

Suprstar

So that's how the OEM navi looks at night? Man, u can barely see anything.

KJ TL-S

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Thanks for those pictures, i appreciate it. I think I will hold off for now, and wait until I see a nice alternative that works well with the cam. I'll be interested to see how those 7 watt ones work for you.

vietxquangstah

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Yup.. It's pretty hard to see at night. How much did you pay that person to install that night vision camera for you?

Also, did you replace your factory camera with that night vision camera? Or did you never have a navi unit at all and had a navi installed along with that back up camera?

I want to upgrade it... but I don't know how simple or difficult it is to replace the oem camera

Suprstar

I never had a navi unit. Both the navi and backup cam were installed by Martin.