i am going to swap the motor in my TL do to a lot of mileage...lol but the donor car is an 04 auto and my car is an 05 manual!!!! will the 04 auto fit my 05 manual with out problems? is all i need to do is transfer my flywheel and clutch to the new block? please help!!

 

We all wish it was that easy =(

 

Excuse my non-answer, but what's the mileage on your 05? A regularly maintained 3G engine should last 200K miles easy. Why do you feel a need to swap engines now?

 

i have 187k lmfaooo it runs strong.. no issues just want to throw an S/C on it ... so i believe a lower milage engine will be good.... my engine has alllll maintenence done... no oil leaks nothing but again... i want FI so id rather go on the safe side

 

come on guys any one know if i can do this ?

 

I think engine is the same

 

dont forget the transmission.

 

Not possible. The software packaging will differ, the bell housing will probably differ, crank pocketing will differ.

Close though.

 

can you explain the software packaging difference? and the crank pocketing?

i read about guys doing an automatic to manual swap? so wouldn't this just bolt on?

 

huh? i have a manual 6sp 05 so the transmission is already there? not sure what you mean

 

I'm not sure on all this stuff, but why not put the S/C on this motor and if anything happens, just throw the new motor into the car later on. IMO while you have the S/C on the current motor, you can have a used one taken apart and modded like Port and Polishing, better valves, etc.

 

I agree- the mileage wont matter if you overboost it anyway
a fully `built` motor with serious rods, balanced, different compression, etc is needed

our gen2 megamod fsttyms1 (Fast Times Won) pulled his engine apart at 200 and the honing marks on the cylinder walls were still present--thats `just left the factory` new!
He only changed engines to swap a CL-S 6 speed manual trans and engine in an 00TL.
that motor was used hard, 200kmiles in less than 4 years! plus often taken to Road America racetrack for lapping days,,full throttle max speed on the long back straight
and still ran awesome,,point being-- 187 is `almost broken in` mileage

talk to gen3 member I Hate Cars about SC, he is the guru on that stuff

Im guessing the TL is like most cars- auto trans crankshaft not drilled for an input shaft bearing- as needed for manual trans

anything can be done~ the only limit is your wallet or good sense

 

ok the "wether i should swap the motor or not" is not the topic here....lol

i really need some one to know for sure if i can swap the auto motor into the manual thats all .... the answer would be greatly appreciated

 

in theory you should be able to because you already have the MT stuff, but i really dont know

 

dude why would u wanna s/c a car that has 187k miles? even if u change the engine the car it self has been tested and will give u problems. transmission for start. either way goodluck

 

any one know? some one has had to have done this before!

 

why wouldn't it work? You can take a LS integra auto and put that motor into a manual...or a manual GSR and turn it to auto (I dunno Y, but it can be done!)

 

There's no reason it won't mechanically work. Transfer all of your sensors to the new engine just in case there are any differences.

I have to go with everyone else, it's a huge waste of money to install a new used engine when yours is fine. A lower mileage engine is just as likely to blow up. The "strength" of an engine does not change over time, if you hurt the old high mileage engine you would have hurt the new one too.

Besides, you don't know the history of the new engine but you know yours. I would take the higher mileage engine knowing it was well taken care of than an unknown lower mileage engine.

A much better path would be to install the blower on the existing setup if you want to do it now. Take the donor engine and rebuild it with forged rods and pistons with a lower compression ratio. You're gaining nothing by replacing with a lower mileage engine but you're gaining a lot by building the donor with forged parts.

An even cheaper option if you want it to live a long life is leave the old engine in and spend a few hundred $$ on knock monitoring and methanol injection. If you do this, the stock high mileage engine will probably go another 100,000 with the blower.

 

Good call on the crank. It's possible the 5at crank might not have the pilot bearing hole. It's too bad Paul does not post on here any more. He would know the answer right away.

 

YES it will work if since your just swapping motors.

06 TL 6sp with 05 Auto motor.
Opel has the same setup..