:( my t.l DROWNED today....
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Originally Posted by mio
the INJEN cai is lower than AEM or what?
I think the AEM filter location is pretty high, or that puddle must be very deep.
I think the AEM filter location is pretty high, or that puddle must be very deep.
Basically dude...you caused the problems yourself by not being vigillent of the fact you had a CAI installed. Fact is...you prob should not have driven though what you did in anything...doesnt matter that somebody "made it though." Common sense here prevails. See it every time it rains behind my house as the cars try to do what some other vehicle did and drown themselves out. I cant help but laugh...because in each and every case...it always begs the question when you see what they attempted to drive though because "somebody else made it".
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Even with the factory intake, wouldn't one still have problems with deep puddles? I mean, if the intake inlet gets blocked, the engine wouldn't be able to "breath" and would render hopeless as well? Am I wrong?
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Originally Posted by 05TLTony
Even with the factory intake, wouldn't one still have problems with deep puddles? I mean, if the intake inlet gets blocked, the engine wouldn't be able to "breath" and would render hopeless as well? Am I wrong?
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http://www.injen.com/7030_hydro.html
do u think this will work cuz i have this hydro shield on my AEM and i cut the plastic out so i can let more air to get in the cai so is that ok?? cuz i really carer
do u think this will work cuz i have this hydro shield on my AEM and i cut the plastic out so i can let more air to get in the cai so is that ok?? cuz i really carer
#45
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I feel sorry for you and hope all turns out ok. But wow that was a dumb thing to do. How do you not know not to drive through a crazy puddle as you put it with a CAI. Just blows my mind. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by scrb09
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why would you say this then? you obviously knew that your opinion is a little harsh..
whatever man, I just didnt think it was necessary at this point...
Originally Posted by scrb09
But you are greatly increasing your chances of getting Hydrolocked Engine when you have a CAI v/s Stock. They do not have the same probability.
Im not sure, maybe a little more risk but not enough to make me not want a CAI, but I understand where you're coming from on this...
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That sucks. I don't quite understand, though, what exactly happens to an engine when it's hydrolocked. Is it that water is not compressible so the tied rods, etc. get damaged when they try to squeeze a cylinder full of water? There must be some kind of permanent damage that makes it so you can't just pull the spark plugs and dry it out.
Edit: I should've read more of the thread. The answer to my question is posted already. Sorry for my stupidity!
Edit: I should've read more of the thread. The answer to my question is posted already. Sorry for my stupidity!
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#48
Originally Posted by trancemission
why would you say this then? you obviously knew that your opinion is a little harsh..
whatever man, I just didnt think it was necessary at this point...
whatever man, I just didnt think it was necessary at this point...
neways, I think not worth the hassle, you happen to think otherwise. Lets just leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by bklynpanman
CAI's aren't for idiots.. you see a big puddle or standing water like that, you don't go through it.. your fault bro.. ![Tomato](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tomato.gif)
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had no choice.....
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Originally Posted by jonmendo82
had no choice.....
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well shit.. ive read every post on here one after another. now had no choice but puddles. like i said before all three streets get fludded. when you got you moms talking you ear off how she wants a ride to her house, what are you going to do.. now i know it is my fault for going in the puddle, but was just looking for hope and what better place than on a acura t.l forum.... and never tried to PIN it on the dealer, was curious if anybody new if they would cover it. . i got my intake for the sound whick i loved.. but should have been more aware of what could happen. like i read lesson learned the HARD way... only 5 months old, damn shame
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Originally Posted by jonmendo82
hey buddy told me to take out spakeys and try to turn it by hand to get the pistons to push out any water. . any thoughts on that????
guess at this point what have you got to loose, I wish you hadnt tried to start it so much when it happened, but hey its worth a shot. Let us know what happens..
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Originally Posted by bluenoise
Stop, pick up a phone and tell mom the road is flooded and you can't get through until it's no longer flooded. What would you have done if the puddle was six feet deep? Should be the same response.
You guys are harsh, sure he made a mistake by driving into the puddle but how about just giving him advice on what to do rather than imply that he was stupid? I don't think that's the sort of information he was looking for when he posted this thread
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Originally Posted by jonmendo82
hey buddy told me to take out spakeys and try to turn it by hand to get the pistons to push out any water. . any thoughts on that????
Next, drain the oil to let the water in the oil pan come out.
After that, put the fuel pump fuse and the spark plugs back in and try to start it. If it doesn't crank, then you have bent piston rods most likely. If it starts up, then listen for any weird noises and keep an eye on the MIL. It'll blow white smoke (steam) for a while if it starts, so don't worry about that. It's just vaporizing all the remaining water inside the engine.
On the bonus side, this will steam clean the inside of the engine for a sparkling new look.
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Originally Posted by acuranewbie
You guys are harsh, sure he made a mistake by driving into the puddle but how about just giving him advice on what to do rather than imply that he was stupid? I don't think that's the sort of information he was looking for when he posted this thread
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I did provide some info on what to do, but I think he's better off getting it towed to the dealership or a shop somewhere.
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#58
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Originally Posted by acuranewbie
You guys are harsh, sure he made a mistake by driving into the puddle but how about just giving him advice on what to do rather than imply that he was stupid? I don't think that's the sort of information he was looking for when he posted this thread
I didn't mean to sound harsh and I apologize for any offense.
Regarding the topic, would his TL really be totaled? In other words, does repairing or replacing a destroyed engine cost more than the replacement cost of the entire car? I'd think the repair would be less than $10k, but the car's replacement value is higher than that. It seems to me the insurance company would pay to repair the car, but not total it.
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At least you're not this guy, he's on the RL forum which I check out from time to time because I like the car. Even though it was not really his fault at least your car isn't like this.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1747
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1747
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#62
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Originally Posted by demolition_x
i would get the car towed to your house and change the intake...
better to leave them thinking than a dead giveaway
better to leave them thinking than a dead giveaway
Oh yeah, that's a great idea! No one should ever have to take responsibility for their actions. Let the company pay for it. They got the big bucks. We can just keep on being dumbasses and blame it on someone else. Brilliant. Please change your nick to EINSTEIN.
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You're probably SOL. You might as well get the engine rebuilt or get rid of the car. It's not gonna be cheap and I wouldn't expect any sympathy here. Good luck with what you decide.
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If the dealer wont cover under warranty...Take your car home and FILE AN INSURANCE CLAIM. May be covered under your automobile insurance policy. Water damage. Dont listen to all these guys on the forum giving you a hard time. It was an honest mistake if you didnt know that your intake meant you couldnt drive through puddles. Keep your head up and think smartly about fixing your problem.
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Originally Posted by Twenties
If the dealer wont cover under warranty...Take your car home and FILE AN INSURANCE CLAIM. May be covered under your automobile insurance policy. Water damage. Dont listen to all these guys on the forum giving you a hard time. It was an honest mistake if you didnt know that your intake meant you couldnt drive through puddles. Keep your head up and think smartly about fixing your problem.
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Originally Posted by NFLblitze1
isn't that too old of an age? im basically 18 (turn 18 in 2 weeks YAY!!) so in 5 years i can't see myself owning a beater......everybodies different...but i was just going off of things over here on the east coast....
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#67
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Hey, how about a little compassion. Sure the guy is a moron, an idiot, an imbecile, a fool, a retard, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't help him.
There are two ways to go about getting the water out of the system.
1) Plug up one exhaust tip and suck on the other. Move the plug to the opposite exhaust tip and repeat.
2) Get a long straw, slide it up the exhaust pipes and suck until all the water is gone. Don't swallow!
There are two ways to go about getting the water out of the system.
1) Plug up one exhaust tip and suck on the other. Move the plug to the opposite exhaust tip and repeat.
2) Get a long straw, slide it up the exhaust pipes and suck until all the water is gone. Don't swallow!
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wow, theres hella people on here talkin shit. no need to make fun of the guy. sheesh. who are you to kick somebody while they're down. especially another TL owner. I remember what this site was like before it got too mainstream. people felt a brotherhood with other people on this site. helped each other out and gave each other advice. honest opinions on products to be bought or not. never was there shit talking on another member. everyone here learned what they know now about cars... or did you geniuses already forget and think you were born knowing
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oh, btw, to suck up water in the intake, you would need to drive thorugh a puddle that would be high enough so that the water can come inside you car, above the side skirts. unless you drive through a dip. im just talking about level ground.
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Originally Posted by ayethetiense
wow, theres hella people on here talkin shit. no need to make fun of the guy. sheesh. who are you to kick somebody while they're down. especially another TL owner. I remember what this site was like before it got too mainstream. people felt a brotherhood with other people on this site. helped each other out and gave each other advice. honest opinions on products to be bought or not. never was there shit talking on another member. everyone here learned what they know now about cars... or did you geniuses already forget and think you were born knowing
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[QUOTE=JohnDoe2]Hey, how about a little compassion. Sure the guy is a moron, an idiot, an imbecile, a fool, a retard, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't help him.
There are two ways to go about getting the water out of the system.
1) Plug up one exhaust tip and suck on the other. Move the plug to the opposite exhaust tip and repeat.
2) Get a long straw, slide it up the exhaust pipes and suck until all the water is gone. Don't swallow!
sounds like your a pro at this, come over and show how its done CHAMP..
There are two ways to go about getting the water out of the system.
1) Plug up one exhaust tip and suck on the other. Move the plug to the opposite exhaust tip and repeat.
2) Get a long straw, slide it up the exhaust pipes and suck until all the water is gone. Don't swallow!
sounds like your a pro at this, come over and show how its done CHAMP..
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I take no offense to all the caca mouths stomping on me while im a clearly down. . . it is actually funny hearing what they have to say and how they say it. I do feel like an ass cuz this happend to me, but then again i had no idea that this could happen. first time COA owner and for 5 months at that. none of my friends have COA... so like i said before LESSON LEARNED THE HARD WAY. and now i know. . . oh yeah the T.L is at acura now... Ill let you ALL know what they tell me.....
#77
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Jon> You're not an ass. Rookie mistake is what I'd chalk it up to. Yes, it's a costly lesson, but that's just life. And remember, all this happened while you were doing something noble: you were on your way to pick up your mom who, otherwise, would have been stuck there for who knows how long. Kudos.
Good luck, and I hope you get a favourable reply from the dealership.
Good luck, and I hope you get a favourable reply from the dealership.
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Happened to me also :-(
This happened to me in Florida a few years ago. If you need some input please PM me anytime.
The short story:
Bent the whole lower part of the motor.
Charged over $4600 parts/labor/tax. Short block assembly was $2688.79 alone. Plus $400 more in parts and $1354 in labor. Please don't flame over the cost. I have the invoice to prove it.
Depending on how many miles you have. The insurance company will LOOK AROUND for a "LIKE KIND QUALITY" or "LKQ" motor/block/heads. Meaning same mileage/year/etc/etc or better. and then install it. I had to pay $1400 out of pocket because of my $500 deductable PLUS a betterment. This was for a 2000 GS-R too. $900 because they could NOT find a "LKQ" motor, so they put in brand new parts. Motor only had 29000 miles.
Please feel free to contact me.
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The short story:
Bent the whole lower part of the motor.
Charged over $4600 parts/labor/tax. Short block assembly was $2688.79 alone. Plus $400 more in parts and $1354 in labor. Please don't flame over the cost. I have the invoice to prove it.
Depending on how many miles you have. The insurance company will LOOK AROUND for a "LIKE KIND QUALITY" or "LKQ" motor/block/heads. Meaning same mileage/year/etc/etc or better. and then install it. I had to pay $1400 out of pocket because of my $500 deductable PLUS a betterment. This was for a 2000 GS-R too. $900 because they could NOT find a "LKQ" motor, so they put in brand new parts. Motor only had 29000 miles.
Please feel free to contact me.
miiipilot
#80
Originally Posted by bklynpanman
CAI's aren't for idiots.. you see a big puddle or standing water like that, you don't go through it.. your fault bro.. ![Tomato](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/tomato.gif)
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Well, its not like he drove through a river or a huge bank of water, and plus, from what I hear from THIS forum, I was thinking about getting the Injen CAI, and almost everyone gave me a response or an assumption that puddles should be ok to drive through. LESSON = Although forums can provide information and different perspectives, you still have to use your own judgement and obtain the best or correct information!
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