3G TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

my concern

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-11-2005, 09:10 AM
  #1  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
TheTriads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chinatown, NYC
Age: 47
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
my concern

Has anyone ever experience this? When my car is parked for more than a couple of days. I go to start it, it kind of chokes but starts. The car never have problem starting at the 1st time, but just seems to try very hard starting it up. When the car is warmed up (driving to supermarket, etc) it starts just fine. Only when it's parked for AWHILE.

I've never had this problem with I drove it daily, now that it's a weekend car, it seems to have this problem. Before I would always thought it's the GAS brand (as I read some threads), but I noticed that my gf's car has been getting the same kind of gas does not have this problem) I also tried to switch different gas stations, different brand, same scenario.

What do you guys think?
Old 05-11-2005, 09:18 AM
  #2  
Advanced
 
05whitetl's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Age: 48
Posts: 69
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What year is the car and how many miles are on it?
Old 05-11-2005, 09:23 AM
  #3  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
TheTriads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chinatown, NYC
Age: 47
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
5AT 2004 with 11886miles
Old 05-11-2005, 11:43 AM
  #4  
Supreme Underlord/Abyss
 
leeherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Age: 56
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Search the forums. It's a common complaint.

The engine management system is designed to optimize emissions on cold starts, and sometimes the car will require prolonged cranking or idle a bit rough until it reaches operating temperature.

It's not a problem, it's design. I believe it's even mentioned in the owner's manual under "starting procedures" (or whatever it's called).

Regards,
Old 05-11-2005, 12:04 PM
  #5  
Intermediate
 
DonKron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Toronto
Age: 44
Posts: 29
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've had this problem and its really odd because there was no pattern to the problem. I live in Canada and thought it was just the cold winter nights, but then it happened on a nicer morning.

I talked to the service manager at my dealership and so far his fix has worked. he advised me to turn the key to the "on" position, but then to wait 4-5 seconds before turning into the start position. you can also tell when to try starting by a slight humming. when you turn the key to the on position you'll hear a humming. when the humming stops start er up.

I don't remember the exact explanation as to why this happens but now there is never any hesitation when starting the car.

B
Old 05-11-2005, 12:11 PM
  #6  
Administrator
 
Ron A's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 16,404
Received 1,012 Likes on 577 Posts
The humming is the fuel pump priming the lines, so when you start the car there is already fuel in the lines, which helps it start better.
Old 05-11-2005, 12:34 PM
  #7  
Supreme Underlord/Abyss
 
leeherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Age: 56
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Ron A
The humming is the fuel pump priming the lines, so when you start the car there is already fuel in the lines, which helps it start better.
That is correct, sir.

However, even with the fuel system primed, we can experience prolonged cranking and rough idle when cold simply because the engine management system is adjusting the fuel mixture to minimize cold start emissions, which are typically when emissions are highest.

It's the price we pay for having ULEV emissions!

Regards,
Old 05-11-2005, 12:48 PM
  #8  
Banned
Thread Starter
 
TheTriads's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Chinatown, NYC
Age: 47
Posts: 912
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I appreciate all of your explanation, leeherman's above 2 posts makes real sense to me. It happens in all weather conditions, even with the weather is so nice, after the car have sat in the lot for a few days, it prolongs the start. Sometimes it prolongs so long that I begin to think weather if it's a huge problem.

I've waited so long to ask this question because I don't want to feel like I'm nagging about a minor problem

thanks all
This forum always helps.
Old 05-11-2005, 12:58 PM
  #9  
Supreme Underlord/Abyss
 
leeherman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Long Island, NY
Age: 56
Posts: 563
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by traidsganster
I appreciate all of your explanation, leeherman's above 2 posts makes real sense to me...

...This forum always helps.
You're welcome, and this site is VERY helpful. I knew EXACTLY what I was getting into before I bought my TL almost a year ago.

Regards,
Old 05-11-2005, 04:51 PM
  #10  
To punish and enslave
 
TL CHROMETIDE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Long Beach, CA
Age: 35
Posts: 2,833
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by DonKron
I've had this problem and its really odd because there was no pattern to the problem. I live in Canada and thought it was just the cold winter nights, but then it happened on a nicer morning.

I talked to the service manager at my dealership and so far his fix has worked. he advised me to turn the key to the "on" position, but then to wait 4-5 seconds before turning into the start position. you can also tell when to try starting by a slight humming. when you turn the key to the on position you'll hear a humming. when the humming stops start er up.

I don't remember the exact explanation as to why this happens but now there is never any hesitation when starting the car.

B
i figured this out on my own. my tl would make a sound like its grinding something or a loud hum and i got worried so i tried many things and i finally came up to this conclusion, set key to on and let it wait for 5 seconds, and then it starts up perfectly
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
stogie1020
Cameras & Photography
17
09-30-2015 01:34 AM
mars
1G TSX (2004-2008)
1
09-28-2015 11:03 AM
Ratheruneeq
2G RL (2005-2012)
6
09-28-2015 07:41 AM
spoiler900
5G TLX (2015-2020)
1
09-23-2015 04:41 PM



Quick Reply: my concern



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:00 PM.