3G TL (2004-2008)
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Magnetic Drain Plug

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-14-2005, 04:31 PM
  #1  
Pro
Thread Starter
 
scrb09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NJ
Age: 45
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
Magnetic Drain Plug

What do you guys think of this? RoadRage might be the guy with an opinion on this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

The claim is

Attract Small Metal Particles From Within The Oil thus keep the oil clean and prolong the life of the engine...

I dont see how it would damage anything but interested in finding out whether it would do any good or not...

Scrb
Old 04-14-2005, 04:46 PM
  #2  
Suzuka Master
 
crazymjb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 34
Posts: 7,438
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have heard of those, I think it was in auto class. I think some filters may have em built in, but I am not sure.
Old 04-14-2005, 05:24 PM
  #3  
Cruisin'
 
brooklynbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Huntington Beach
Age: 83
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i HAVE EXPERIENCE ON THESE IN THE RAILROAD INDUSTRY WHERE THEY ARE USED ON LARGE AXLE GEARBOXES.. THEY DO WORK ALTHOUGH THE RAILROAD GEARBOX OIL DOES NOT GO THROUGH A FILTER AND THE OIL DOES NOT EXPERIENCE THE CONTAMINATION FROM FUELS, ANTIFREEZE, CARBON, ETC THAT COMBUSTION ENGINES DO.
Old 04-14-2005, 06:36 PM
  #4  
Drifting
 
Bxscig's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,486
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
I was just considering it myself as well, glad u posted the question
Old 04-14-2005, 06:43 PM
  #5  
Cruisin'
 
SoldonTL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: HOUSTON
Age: 72
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Magnetic Drain Plug

It worked well on an old cast block engine. Remember our cars are aluminum block and aluminum particles are not attracted by a magnet!!!!
Old 04-14-2005, 08:06 PM
  #6  
Advanced
 
lrvace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: san diego, ca
Age: 47
Posts: 57
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Like brooklynbob, I too have seen them used in the rail industry, we have them on our light rail vehicles. During inspections and oil changes gives one more indication of what the condition of the internals are. In our case it is just the gearbox that is affected-----shavings and sometimes gear teeth. Wouldn't hurt to install them in our TL's.
Old 04-14-2005, 08:14 PM
  #7  
Pro
Thread Starter
 
scrb09's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NJ
Age: 45
Posts: 626
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
So I am guessing it would not be a bad $17 investment
Old 04-14-2005, 08:39 PM
  #8  
.:KCCO:.
 
ayethetiense's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Irvine
Age: 42
Posts: 2,174
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
uhm, why dont you just buy a magnet and put it next to the drain plug?
Old 04-15-2005, 07:28 AM
  #9  
Racer
 
JohnDoe2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN 55408
Posts: 378
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Here in dairy land, we used to put magnets inside of our cows. That way if they accidentally eat any bits of wire or nails, it sticks to the magnet and doesn't pass through their system. Same principle.

I kid you not.
Old 04-15-2005, 11:30 AM
  #10  
Intermediate
 
hopsdevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Kennett Square, PA
Posts: 30
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If I remember correctly, my 88 Legend had a magnetic drain plug for the transmission.
Old 04-15-2005, 11:53 AM
  #11  
Gratis dictum
 
Repecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Olympia, WA
Posts: 1,230
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
If I remember correctly, my 1954 Holstein had a magnet in her stomach.
j/k Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Old 04-15-2005, 12:43 PM
  #12  
Cruisin'
 
brooklynbob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Huntington Beach
Age: 83
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Have seen the oil filter magnet clip on for years. JC Whitney has had them since the 1950's..Not sure how effective they are .

The best bet is to change the oil and filter on a regular basis.
Old 04-15-2005, 03:27 PM
  #13  
Moderator
 
SodaLuvr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Walnut Creek, CA
Posts: 3,965
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 8 Posts
Not a bad idea, not sure if its worth the $17 or so bucks though.
Old 04-15-2005, 04:33 PM
  #14  
Advanced
 
HiG4s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: jacksonville FL
Age: 67
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by SoldonTL
It worked well on an old cast block engine. Remember our cars are aluminum block and aluminum particles are not attracted by a magnet!!!!
What he said,
Old 04-15-2005, 06:54 PM
  #15  
Suzuka Master
 
crazymjb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Age: 34
Posts: 7,438
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Yah, the block is aluminum(alloy I think), but what about the crank and other inner powertrain parts?
Old 04-15-2005, 10:09 PM
  #16  
Banned
 
RacialSlurs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 65
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by crazymjb
Yah, the block is aluminum(alloy I think), but what about the crank and other inner powertrain parts?
everything is made using a new Honda alloy, no steel at all in the motor. the same engineers who put some bogus oil additive in the motor are the same folks who made the new alloy.
Old 04-15-2005, 11:14 PM
  #17  
WDP Director of R & D
 
KJSmitty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,940
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Originally Posted by RacialSlurs
everything is made using a new Honda alloy, no steel at all in the motor. the same engineers who put some bogus oil additive in the motor are the same folks who made the new alloy.
Old 04-16-2005, 09:12 AM
  #18  
Racer
 
JohnDoe2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN 55408
Posts: 378
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by Repecat
If I remember correctly, my 1954 Holstein had a magnet in her stomach.
My uncle had one of those. Man, what a sweet ride!
Old 04-16-2005, 09:27 AM
  #19  
Not a Blowhole
 
Road Rage's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,045
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 13 Posts
I don't buy that they do anything to reduce wear - what they do is act as "tattle-tales". That is, most of the time you will see a small, extremely fine glob of metal, looking like black sludge. If you rub it between your fingers, you will barely feel any abrasion. These pieces are so small they they just pass through the filter - if they do that, they are harmless.

However, if you see chard of metal, that should inidcate that something is about to, or may already have, been damaged or about to fail. It might allow a repair before an engine failure.

As others have said, it will only show metal that can be magnetized - so copper from bearings and aluminum will not show. That is why oil analysis is a much better diagnostic tool, but like an enema for a dead person, an oil magnetic drain plug "may not help, but it won't hurt".

I do use one on my TL - I bought it from

http://www.magneticdrainplugs.com/metric.htm

their service has always been great. I also use the gaskets that have a rubber insert and a steel outer ring - they are re-useable and last a very long time - just do not over-tighten (I do it by feel, but around 18 #'s should do it).

RR.
Old 04-16-2005, 09:29 AM
  #20  
Not a Blowhole
 
Road Rage's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,045
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by RacialSlurs
everything is made using a new Honda alloy, no steel at all in the motor. the same engineers who put some bogus oil additive in the motor are the same folks who made the new alloy.
This is completely untrue - what do you think the rings are made of? Chrome plated steel. How about the camshaft? The followers? These are high wear items.

The crank is also of course steel.
Old 04-16-2005, 02:05 PM
  #21  
Banned
 
RacialSlurs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 65
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Road Rage
This is completely untrue - what do you think the rings are made of? Chrome plated steel. How about the camshaft? The followers? These are high wear items.

The crank is also of course steel.
of course it's not true. just trying to get these nuggets to think about why they would decide to install a magnetic drain plug. if they didn't know there is a boat load of ferrous parts in the motor then they should not be worrying about a magnetic drain plug.
Old 04-16-2005, 08:53 PM
  #22  
Not a Blowhole
 
Road Rage's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Virginia
Posts: 3,045
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 13 Posts
Originally Posted by RacialSlurs
of course it's not true. just trying to get these nuggets to think about why they would decide to install a magnetic drain plug. if they didn't know there is a boat load of ferrous parts in the motor then they should not be worrying about a magnetic drain plug.
You have lost me somewhere RS.

I must be dense, but have found that direct statements of people's thoughts are most effective....
Old 04-16-2005, 08:56 PM
  #23  
Banned
 
RacialSlurs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Age: 65
Posts: 135
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Road Rage
You have lost me somewhere RS.

I must be dense, but have found that direct statements of people's thoughts are most effective....
ok, read what this nugget says
Originally Posted by SoldonTL
It worked well on an old cast block engine. Remember our cars are aluminum block and aluminum particles are not attracted by a magnet!!!!
Old 04-20-2005, 08:27 PM
  #24  
Banned
 
RacialSlurs2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Age: 82
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Road Rage
You have lost me somewhere RS.

I must be dense, but have found that direct statements of people's thoughts are most effective....
not dense, just another year older next week.....
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Mike734
2G RL Tires, Wheels & Suspension
4
12-10-2021 01:25 PM
ITSJESTER
4G TL Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
17
12-06-2018 02:29 AM
MetalGearTypeS
3G TL Audio, Bluetooth, Electronics & Navigation
6
08-29-2016 08:28 PM
Joe Avesyan
3G TL Performance Parts & Modifications
9
09-29-2015 03:57 PM
STL TL-S
3G TL Problems & Fixes
9
09-23-2015 08:52 PM



Quick Reply: Magnetic Drain Plug



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:16 PM.