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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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Looking to get the 3G TL, researching for problems

What's up 3Ger's. I currently have a 2G and my tranny just died yesterday. Just wanted to check in to see if there are any problems with the 3G that I should know about before getting it. Thanks in advance!
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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What year 3G are you look to get? I know the 04 had a 3rd gear issue for the 6MT. Also a couple of recalls, the power steering hose and wiper motor.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
What year 3G are you look to get? I know the 04 had a 3rd gear issue for the 6MT. Also a couple of recalls, the power steering hose and wiper motor.
I was thinking just a regular TL 6MT. Can't afford a TL-S though. Other than the 04, no other year has tranny problems? My budget may be 20g's
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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Welcome to the 3g side.
There is a 3g garage that you can read all the problems and how they were fixed.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by anarchy[sear]
Welcome to the 3g side.
There is a 3g garage that you can read all the problems and how they were fixed.
thanks man.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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if your budget is around 20k, i would say get an 06 MT.
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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3G garage is your friend. Here are a few TSB's:

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B04-020.PDF

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B05-013.PDF

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B05-043.PDF

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/B07-017.PDF

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b08-013.pdf

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b08-016.pdf

http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/b08-018.pdf

These are some of the main one's. You can view all the TSB's/Recalls here:

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-2004-2008-93/3g-tl-technical-service-bulletins-tsbs-3g-garage-j-016-a-613659/
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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sweet thanks Lovemytls
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Old Jul 27, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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No problem. It's amazing what you can find in the 3G garage...........Good luck with your search.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Hey, what's the standard factory warranty on the 3g's? I'm actually looking at an 05 6spd TL. I read somewhere it was 100k/7yrs. Is this correct?
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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Standard warranty for Acura is 50k miles or 5yrs.

As for the 6MT, the 3rd gear synchro could be an issue on any year. My 05 had the problem and they replaced the synchro under warranty with very little hassle. I did have it checked out twice. The second time they experineced the problem during a test drive and all was well after that...

There is also an easy fix to try first if your out of warranty. Simply drain the trans fluid and replace it with "General Motors Synchromesh Friction Modified". The friction modifiers make the sychros work smoother. From what I've read, pretty much everyone who's tried it has had the issue resolved...
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:38 PM
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So I checked out an 05 TL today.Everything looked great, but when the hood was popped, the entire engine was allll corroded and rusted. Sales man said the car came from the east coast, so this is caused by snow?? Is this normal? This is the first i've heard of it.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:52 PM
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All, I'm not a total newb, but clicking on garage leads my to just posts of peoples rides. Specifically, I was looking for DIY's on how to wire my halo's. That said, searching for it in garage got nothing. Any tips?

myTaLiza, it depends on where on the east coast the car came from. East could be Georgia, or New York, and they use a lot of salt in NY. Still, if you could see corrosion under the hood, run like hell. A 4 year old car won't be perfect; in fact dusty might be a better word for looking under the hood, but not corroded. Corrosion is caused by salt, not snow.
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 09:54 PM
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by lembowski
Where are you located?
i'm in cali, but was told the car originated from the east coast. Also, when the vtec hits, is it noticeable?? my vtec on the 03 was loud. Don't think I heard the vtec kick
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Old Jul 28, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by myTaLizaS3.2
i'm in cali, but was told the car originated from the east coast. Also, when the vtec hits, is it noticeable?? my vtec on the 03 was loud. Don't think I heard the vtec kick
I'm going to be selling my 04 shorty, its a A/T but its fully loaded.......let me know if your interested take a look at my signature for mods done. The mods are coming off in the next 2 or 3 weeks.......

I'm in San Diego
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by lembowski
I'm going to be selling my 04 shorty, its a A/T but its fully loaded.......let me know if your interested take a look at my signature for mods done. The mods are coming off in the next 2 or 3 weeks.......

I'm in San Diego


No thanks man. Only looking for a manual. Plus, needs to be a trade in because of my 03
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:06 AM
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The corrosion may be caused by flooding as well. Like was mentioned, I'd steer clear of that one. As far as WOT, it's noticable but more so if you have a CAI.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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^^ THose pictures show usual damage from road salt etc used in the harsh winters here in the NE.
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
The corrosion may be caused by flooding as well. Like was mentioned, I'd steer clear of that one. As far as WOT, it's noticable but more so if you have a CAI.
Thats a snow belt car. Those pics are normal
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LoveMyTL-S
The corrosion may be caused by flooding as well. Like was mentioned, I'd steer clear of that one. As far as WOT, it's noticable but more so if you have a CAI.
it looks as if it's just cosmetics damage. why stay away? just curious..
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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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TL only has VTEC on the intake valves so the sound won't be as noticable as say an Integra. If you have all the windows up and radio off in a TL, you can hear the engine roar change note, but it's pretty subtle due to the built in resonators on the intake plumbing...

If the VTEC transition point is placed properly in the ECU (and it is on this car), you shouldn't notice any sudden jump in torque when it hits (only a change in engine sound). The sudden bump in torque on some VTEC cars means the engagement is set too high. This has been done on purpose by the factory to simulate a "boost" effect that can impress younger drivers into buying the car. The fact is your simply loosing torque by running too long on the low cam.

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Old Jul 29, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
TL only has VTEC on the intake valves so the sound won't be as noticable as say an Integra. If you have all the windows up and radio off in a TL, you can hear the engine roar change note, but it's pretty subtle due to the built in resonators on the intake plumbing...

If the VTEC transition point is placed properly in the ECU (and it is on this car), you shouldn't notice any sudden jump in torque when it hits (only a change in engine sound). The sudden bump in torque on some VTEC cars means the engagement is set too high. This has been done on purpose by the factory to simulate a "boost" effect that can impress younger drivers into buying the car. The fact is your simply loosing torque by running too long on the low cam.
ahh. i see. well, i wasn't too happy with the power though.. I think I expected too much.
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