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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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A long awaited run with interesting results...

Yes....finally it happened folks. A 335i. I was coming home from my boys house and saw a blue 335i with wheels. It was not the heavier Xi, but indeed the lonely letter i.

I tried pacing him a few times to no avail. I downshifted to 4th and punched it. Again, showing no signs. However, I punched it in 3rd gear to see if he would bite one last time...and he did. However, by 3rd I mean the very top of 3rd....it was late at night and hardly anyone was on the road.

After I punched it at the very top of 3rd and let off, he goes for it! So he gets the initial jump here and pulls a good 2 cars on me pretty easily, so it seems. We had to slow down due to 1 car (the only car on the road, I swear), and go once more. This time a continued punch from the previous run, from low (still in powerband) 4th gear.

He was already in front about 2 cars at this point, so it was difficult to tell what was really happening. However, throughout 4th gear the gap seemed to stay constant. Neither of us were pulling until the very top where I (yes, I) started to creep.

We then shut it down with caution (no other cars were in sight). He turned off at the next exit and flashed his high beams.

I'm about as sure as one can be without seeing firsthand that it was not the MT, but the AT. Either way I'm pretty happy at the results. I wish we could've done an actual 3rd gear roll and got off at the same time, but I'm content.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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not a bad run
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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nice run, glad to hear it was close!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:14 AM
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NIce wow good run. Just outta curiosty? The auto's are 6spd's right??
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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OMG!!!! NO SHIT!!!!

I ran one yesterday. a red 335i sedan with the older tails so im assuming it wasnt the new one.

ran from the top of 2nd to the middle of 4th and we were dead even the whole way, i had to slow down because a car cut out in front of me. i didnt want to post because i already have plenty of doubters
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:40 AM
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^ Phee, O would've believed you hahaha

NICE RUN!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:47 AM
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Bryan,

Hope you don't mind, but can I ask you yet another question about driving your 6MT? Sounds like you're a damn good driver...when you're shifting fast, say against this 335i for relevance, do you "slap" gears...as in clutch in, shift, drop the clutch without feathering, and then smash on the gas again? I've noticed that with quick acceleration, the "grabbing" point is a lot smaller on my G, and it doesn't require "feathering" like when trying to shift smoothly. Then again, when easing it up to high speeds without being completely on the gas, I've noticed that feathering is okay; the clutch grabs with a bit of feathering (letting clutch out slowly); is that the way the typical manual transmission works? It has to be the load that's on the clutch, right? Or does is possibly have to do with the difference in transmission speed and car speed that dictates how quickly the clutch will grab (on the pedal, letting out the clutch slower lets the car free rev). Slapping gears...is it bad (dropping clutch between shifts during "spirited" runs)? LOL questions, questions, question... THANKS MAN!!!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:48 AM
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Nice run Sonnick..!

Erick3....how's the 6MT on the new G37?
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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6MT POWAH!

Good stuff Sonnick, I bet you he was shocked to see a Honda Accord keeping home with his twin turbo coupe lol.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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I would've been shocked too! I'm just glad I finally got to run one. My boy just got a Pepsi blue 335i coupe with the 6MT. I told him I wanted to do a friendly run and get it on camera (knowing I'd lose) just to see how I would fair against it. He said he has to get used to the car first and that I shouldn't even try lol but we will. It's the 2009 or 2010 I forget which, but he said it's single turbo?? Did they switch to a single? Idk but I'll try to get some footage.

Erick, there wasn't much shifting going on in this race lol that's why I was even more surprised because it was sheer power. But when I shift quick I do not "feather" the clutch, I hammer that thing lol. Yes, I "slap" as you called it, I do not feather at any point. This is one of the main reasons I want to do the SC check valve mod because when I shift I do it rather viciously. Sometimes I powershift, which is keeping your foot on the gas while quickly pushing and releasing the clutch.

I think maybe you just need to get used to how the G37 clutch feels. Every clutch takes a bit of getting used to, some more than others. The clutch on my Accord is a little strange as well, being "self-adjusting," and took me a little while to get used to. With more practice you will get the feel of the clutch and at what point in the pedal travel it grabs.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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Oh, and I neglected to mention that neither car had a passenger. Driver only.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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I am just getting used to "slapping" gears, but I do not have the balls to powershift. Just the thought of my foot being welded to the gas petal and coordinating shifts right before redline is quite intimidating.

Make sure to videotape the race vs your friends 335i 6MT, try to jimmy rig a mount on your passenger seat .
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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wow. u beat a coupe? thats a whole nother ball game. and be prepared to lose to the 09-10 they put down 301 to the wheels stock.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:06 AM
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Nice race Sonnick! I've been wanting to run a 335i forever lol

Don't you hate the races that end so fast or you can't get a decent run in?? but it sounds like you would have edged him out if you got a fair run. Very nice!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Nice run Sonnick! Time to get to the track man! Curious to see what you can pull off.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:34 AM
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Nice run.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by phee
wow. u beat a coupe? thats a whole nother ball game. and be prepared to lose to the 09-10 they put down 301 to the wheels stock.
Oh, I'm fully prepared lol.
Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
Nice run Sonnick! Time to get to the track man! Curious to see what you can pull off.
Me too...hopefully I won't be disappointed.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 12:12 PM
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All e90 335s have the twinturbo engine that is underrated at 300hp/tq but the 09/10s dont put down 305 to the wheels stock. The 2011 will have the new n55(IIRC) single turbo engine that will be a monster even though it is still rated the same.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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it was an 07 that i ran
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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and most dyno at about 256 to the wheels with the TQ a bit higher.

ive seen some monsters dyno at 280 stock with lower tq they definitely differ
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonnick
I would've been shocked too! I'm just glad I finally got to run one. My boy just got a Pepsi blue 335i coupe with the 6MT. I told him I wanted to do a friendly run and get it on camera (knowing I'd lose) just to see how I would fair against it. He said he has to get used to the car first and that I shouldn't even try lol but we will. It's the 2009 or 2010 I forget which, but he said it's single turbo?? Did they switch to a single? Idk but I'll try to get some footage.

Erick, there wasn't much shifting going on in this race lol that's why I was even more surprised because it was sheer power. But when I shift quick I do not "feather" the clutch, I hammer that thing lol. Yes, I "slap" as you called it, I do not feather at any point. This is one of the main reasons I want to do the SC check valve mod because when I shift I do it rather viciously. Sometimes I powershift, which is keeping your foot on the gas while quickly pushing and releasing the clutch.

I think maybe you just need to get used to how the G37 clutch feels. Every clutch takes a bit of getting used to, some more than others. The clutch on my Accord is a little strange as well, being "self-adjusting," and took me a little while to get used to. With more practice you will get the feel of the clutch and at what point in the pedal travel it grabs.
The 07-10's have the twin turbo and the 11 will have the single turbo, they both make the same power although.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 08:29 PM
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You lucky dog . . I've been thinking of the outcome with one of those for a some time. And yes, I believe it . . but not sure I believe Phee's story j/k.

What really sucks about this is that just today I had a 335i come whipping in and out of traffic and really thought about going after him, but decided traffic was too heavy and let it go. Oh well, I start tearing mine down this weekend and will be itching to run one soon . . . I hope.

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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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nice runs.

Ive seen stocks (or with very little mods) 335is dynos 380-390 WHP.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAH stock dynoing 100hp more than bmw rated them?

and how come noone believes me, ever? fml
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by vhtran
Nice run Sonnick..!

Erick3....how's the 6MT on the new G37?

Just fine, thanks for asking man! I wouldn't be surprised if I were the worst 6MT driver, of all time though lol

...okay, fine a bit of an exaggeration, but I'm not far from it

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Erick, there wasn't much shifting going on in this race lol that's why I was even more surprised because it was sheer power. But when I shift quick I do not "feather" the clutch, I hammer that thing lol. Yes, I "slap" as you called it, I do not feather at any point. This is one of the main reasons I want to do the SC check valve mod because when I shift I do it rather viciously. Sometimes I powershift, which is keeping your foot on the gas while quickly pushing and releasing the clutch.

I think maybe you just need to get used to how the G37 clutch feels. Every clutch takes a bit of getting used to, some more than others. The clutch on my Accord is a little strange as well, being "self-adjusting," and took me a little while to get used to. With more practice you will get the feel of the clutch and at what point in the pedal travel it grabs.
Ah, good to know. I've definitely gotten used to the clutch, now. I can drive smoothly but I can't drive aggressive, yet..........."aggressively"
It takes way to long for me to slow down, shift gears (say I'm going up a hill), and so forth. I'm getting used to rev matching though say from, 6th to 5th on the freeway, but I've yet to try 6th to say, 4th for spirited runs. With time...hopefully
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by phee
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH stock dynoing 100hp more than bmw rated them?

and how come noone believes me, ever? fml

oh we believe you Phee . . . we just like messing with you

Ruf
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Monte TLS,MAX
The 07-10's have the twin turbo and the 11 will have the single turbo, they both make the same power although.
AND there is a 335is coming out with an N54 putting out 320hp with an overboost feature allowing it to generate 7-second burst of up to 370lb-ft. (Road and Track is billing it as the M3 Lite)

Good kill Brian. Stephen's had a couple of runs vs the 335i with results similar to yours (IIRC). I'll ask him for recap.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
I am just getting used to "slapping" gears, but I do not have the balls to powershift. Just the thought of my foot being welded to the gas petal and coordinating shifts right before redline is quite intimidating.
Same here, beside my 04 R1 I scare to power shift on the 6MT.

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Just fine, thanks for asking man! I wouldn't be surprised if I were the worst 6MT driver, of all time though lol

...okay, fine a bit of an exaggeration, but I'm not far from it
Waiting for the wife to get a real work, get us bigger place and I will look into the G37 or the new M56
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 11:54 AM
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AND there is a 335is coming out with an N54 putting out 320hp with an overboost feature allowing it to generate 7-second burst of up to 370lb-ft. (Road and Track is billing it as the M3 Lite)

Good kill Brian. Stephen's had a couple of runs vs the 335i with results similar to yours (IIRC). I'll ask him for recap.
F23 thats going to be real impressive!
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp531
nice runs.

Ive seen stocks (or with very little mods) 335is dynos 380-390 WHP.
Please share with me whatever you're smoking.

And FWIW guys, the auto 335's are generally a hair quicker than the 6MT's.
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TylerT
I am just getting used to "slapping" gears, but I do not have the balls to powershift. Just the thought of my foot being welded to the gas petal and coordinating shifts right before redline is quite intimidating.

Make sure to videotape the race vs your friends 335i 6MT, try to jimmy rig a mount on your passenger seat .
Power shifting is the only way to race! Oh and double clutching when in trouble...However I do have to feather on the launch as I make to much power and would just spin!
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
Nice run.
Man now that was some major input on the race! I think I'm a better person for you sharing your brilliant feedback!

























































P.s. you really get on my nerves! Really dude I mean if your hands are broken then I will understand or if ur an 8 year old that can't drive yet... dude stop posting if all your gonna say is "nice kill." Or "more details please"...
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 03:36 PM
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The new 2011 335i's with the single turbo, wouldn't that mean it'll be more laggy? Which would kind of suck, although top end should be quite better.
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Old Jun 6, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Hmmm... I wonder what kind of power they put down without the turbo? If they make good trq N/A then that could make up for the lag....
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 02:09 AM
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Jeez Sonic, I'm honestly so anxious to see what you run at the track. You've gotta' be putting down some mean times now!! . You make me regret my 5at every time I read one of your threads.. lolz
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 11:28 PM
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I would've been shocked too! I'm just glad I finally got to run one. My boy just got a Pepsi blue 335i coupe with the 6MT. I told him I wanted to do a friendly run and get it on camera (knowing I'd lose) just to see how I would fair against it. He said he has to get used to the car first and that I shouldn't even try lol but we will. It's the 2009 or 2010 I forget which, but he said it's single turbo?? Did they switch to a single? Idk but I'll try to get some footage.

Erick, there wasn't much shifting going on in this race lol that's why I was even more surprised because it was sheer power. But when I shift quick I do not "feather" the clutch, I hammer that thing lol. Yes, I "slap" as you called it, I do not feather at any point. This is one of the main reasons I want to do the SC check valve mod because when I shift I do it rather viciously. Sometimes I powershift, which is keeping your foot on the gas while quickly pushing and releasing the clutch.

I think maybe you just need to get used to how the G37 clutch feels. Every clutch takes a bit of getting used to, some more than others. The clutch on my Accord is a little strange as well, being "self-adjusting," and took me a little while to get used to. With more practice you will get the feel of the clutch and at what point in the pedal travel it grabs.
If he has a single turbo than its neither 09-10 but 2011 which started coming around march/april time frame. Also another note is as of 2009 BMW no longer uses the xi badging..it will now say 335i regardless if it's awd or not...Only way to know is on the side it will now see a X-Drive badge but most enthusiast remove that.

Originally Posted by Yonkers914
NIce wow good run. Just outta curiosty? The auto's are 6spd's right??
Yes they are 6at...but the new 335is coupes will have a 7spd dct...which is amazing by the way, have driven 2 on road tests and man I need one of them like yesterday

Originally Posted by Monte TLS,MAX
The 07-10's have the twin turbo and the 11 will have the single turbo, they both make the same power although.
this is correct but the 335is(N54) will have more power 320hp/332lbs with overboost allowance up to 370lbs/tq which is insane, you can also add to this with upgrade from factory stage2 turbo upgrade which bumps from 300 to 320hp and tq as well on the regular 335's

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AND there is a 335is coming out with an N54 putting out 320hp with an overboost feature allowing it to generate 7-second burst of up to 370lb-ft. (Road and Track is billing it as the M3 Lite)



Good kill Brian. Stephen's had a couple of runs vs the 335i with results similar to yours (IIRC). I'll ask him for recap.
Yes yes and yes...which is good for roughly 5.2sec 0-60mph whether in the 6spd or 7dct


Originally Posted by ineedmyfixofacura
The new 2011 335i's with the single turbo, wouldn't that mean it'll be more laggy? Which would kind of suck, although top end should be quite better.
No not at all matter of fact this turbo is Single turbo but twinscroll which gives you full tq at an impressive 1200rpm, but keep in mind this is for the N55, not the N54 335is....with 335is you just never know what you will get when coming across one...also with a simple dinan stage3 chip upgrade is bumps boost from 9psi to 13.8 and gives you 421whp and 489wtq which puts it in a whole diffirent league



my boy will be getting one soon a 335i sedan with the new motor N55 and I will be running him for sure so I will be sure to make a video clip and see by how much I get whooped by

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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 01:05 AM
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^^ He definitely doesn't have the 2011, so it's definitely the twin turbo setup. I'm gonna see if I can get a run on vid too. I'm also gonna try to get me vs my boys newly acquired 6MT 370z, and also his friends I/H/E/tune Mach1 (yikes lol).
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