Let's Discuss: 3G TL in 15 years
07-25-2010, 10:32 PM
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Let's Discuss: 3G TL in 15 years
So what is everyone's impression when they see say a 1G TL on the road? To me it looks boxy, bland, looks like an accord, etc. But I bet at the time it was really hot, or maybe not.
Us 3G owners really love looking at our car because it's the first time the TL really got a complete re-vamped look to the exterior. I know you all like the look because I read it in your posts. It's been 6 years now, and I guess we've been lucky that our cars still look fantastic mainly due to the fact that 4G's look isn't as great.
So do you think the 3G will hold it's aura for more than 15 years?
Us 3G owners really love looking at our car because it's the first time the TL really got a complete re-vamped look to the exterior. I know you all like the look because I read it in your posts. It's been 6 years now, and I guess we've been lucky that our cars still look fantastic mainly due to the fact that 4G's look isn't as great.
So do you think the 3G will hold it's aura for more than 15 years?
07-25-2010, 10:36 PM
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I think it's all about care. I like the 1G's looks. Clean, elegant, understated. That being said, a rusted out example with steel wheels and faded paint looks ugly as shit.
Same goes for the 2G, and eventually the 3G. The well-kept examples will look great, the uncared ones will look terrible
Same goes for the 2G, and eventually the 3G. The well-kept examples will look great, the uncared ones will look terrible
07-25-2010, 10:38 PM
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i would like to say yes. but i think it will be a no. simply because in 15 years technology should greatly improved and people will have different taste by then. but hopefully our car can be a classic design such as the nsx which never got out of date to today. even seeing a 1992 nsx on the street (a 18 year old car) still turns head like no other.
07-25-2010, 10:58 PM
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at 15 years from now I doubt that there will be many 3rd gen cars left because they are not cost effective to maintain once you start having major problems and I seriously doubt that they will have a record of going 500K plus due to auto trans and manual trans issues (although the latter can be corrected)
07-25-2010, 11:00 PM
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I was just having this conversation with someone the other day. Our conclusion was simply that as far as looks go, beauty is in the eye of the beholder; for those that know and appreciate what the car is/was for the time, it'll always be a beautiful car.
That said, it probably won't get the same following that it has today for the reasons stated above. I think ultimately the car just won't be techy enough in 15 years. Who knows...maybe by then we'll be laughing because it has wheels?
That said, it probably won't get the same following that it has today for the reasons stated above. I think ultimately the car just won't be techy enough in 15 years. Who knows...maybe by then we'll be laughing because it has wheels?
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07-26-2010, 06:25 AM
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The world is going to end in 1 1/2 sooo 
J/k (hopefully) but in 15 years people are going to be like "whats a car?". by then, we should be able to genetically enhance our bodies and be more enviormentally friendly and just fly everywhere with our wings
. by 2025, we should be on other planets, HIV/AIDS should be cured, polar bears will have a home, and weed will be legal
.
J/k (hopefully) but in 15 years people are going to be like "whats a car?". by then, we should be able to genetically enhance our bodies and be more enviormentally friendly and just fly everywhere with our wings
. by 2025, we should be on other planets, HIV/AIDS should be cured, polar bears will have a home, and weed will be legal.
07-26-2010, 08:11 AM
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I plan to run this car until i have to get out and push it to move.. i think the 3G is absolutely beautiful car with excellent lines and just an all around well designed figure, the balance is great, the VTEC just feeds you power without getting 2mpg, and it has a smooth yet very sporty ride.
I bought this car knowing it will last me as long as I want as long as I take care of it, so in 15 years, I have a feeling I will still be gawking over it...
I bought this car knowing it will last me as long as I want as long as I take care of it, so in 15 years, I have a feeling I will still be gawking over it...
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07-26-2010, 08:52 AM
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If you look at the Legend now, that car still looks beautiful after all these years. The 3G will be the same way.
07-26-2010, 12:43 PM
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Every car that is well maintained will be appreciated in some way.
I have a 1990 Corolla in immaculate condition and a lot of people admire how clean it is, how much better the A/C is then newer cars, and how it still gives me 32 MPG. Same with my 1998 TL, my 1988 Integra, and so on. Problem with aging vehicles is that:
1) People don't take care of it THROUGHOUT its life span.
2) People never clean them.
3) People never maintain them.
4) Obviously paint job in Texas heat/rain won't last more than 10 years/500k miles. So wax it weekly/detail twice a year and get it painted every 6-7 years.
You have the classic Mercedes, Camaros, Bimmers, Mustangs, Super Novas, GNs (IHC), etc... Do they get old? Not really. When their broken down? Yes of course. When they are taken care of? Everyone admires them.
I have a 1990 Corolla in immaculate condition and a lot of people admire how clean it is, how much better the A/C is then newer cars, and how it still gives me 32 MPG. Same with my 1998 TL, my 1988 Integra, and so on. Problem with aging vehicles is that:
1) People don't take care of it THROUGHOUT its life span.
2) People never clean them.
3) People never maintain them.
4) Obviously paint job in Texas heat/rain won't last more than 10 years/500k miles. So wax it weekly/detail twice a year and get it painted every 6-7 years.
You have the classic Mercedes, Camaros, Bimmers, Mustangs, Super Novas, GNs (IHC), etc... Do they get old? Not really. When their broken down? Yes of course. When they are taken care of? Everyone admires them.
07-26-2010, 01:13 PM
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07-26-2010, 01:13 PM
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People said this 15 years ago!
I think in 15 years, there will likely be flying cars, but good old 4 wheeled automobiles will still be the norm, I'd wager.
Hell, I'm driving a 15 year old car right now!
07-26-2010, 01:19 PM
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The 1G TL was essentially a renamed Acura Vigor, at least as to the 2.5-litre model. The renaming came about at the time when Acura started dumping all their traditional model names (except "Integra"), supposedly because Honda management were annoyed that people would brag about driving a "Legend" rather than an "Acura." As I recall the Vigor had generally gotten largely unfavorable reviews, due in no small part to a poorly-implemented 2.5-litre inline-5, and the original "2.5TL" was essentially the same car in most ways. I recall thinking it was fairly forgettable. I saw a Vigor on the road a couple of weeks ago up in the York, PA, area and I had the same reaction—a footnote in Acura history more notable because the later iterations of the car so thoroughly surpassed the original. (There's certainly nothing wrong with 5-cylinder engines. Audi and Volvo have done pretty well with them over the years.)
I do think it's kind of funny that our current 3G TLs are essentially the heirs to the Vigor, though.
I don't think your average driver or car enthusiast will ever view the 3G TL as something to note when he sees one on the road, even 15 or 20 years down the road. It's simply too common a car, yet it's also not SO common a car that everyone will have memories of driving one at some point such that it becomes a nostalgia thing to see one. The old air-cooled VW Beetle became so ubiquitous that it sort of falls into the latter category for a lot of people. (For those of you in your 20s, think about how many of your parents had Beetles prior to having kids precisely because the Beetle was affordable and easy to fix.) This sort of goes along with the thread someone started a year or two ago about TL owners not giving a "TL wave" on the road the way, say, Beetle owners do (or I could cite RX-7 owners from personal experience). While it's a very nice car, reliable, nice styling, etc., the TL isn't anything "special" to your average motorist.
I do think it's kind of funny that our current 3G TLs are essentially the heirs to the Vigor, though.
I don't think your average driver or car enthusiast will ever view the 3G TL as something to note when he sees one on the road, even 15 or 20 years down the road. It's simply too common a car, yet it's also not SO common a car that everyone will have memories of driving one at some point such that it becomes a nostalgia thing to see one. The old air-cooled VW Beetle became so ubiquitous that it sort of falls into the latter category for a lot of people. (For those of you in your 20s, think about how many of your parents had Beetles prior to having kids precisely because the Beetle was affordable and easy to fix.) This sort of goes along with the thread someone started a year or two ago about TL owners not giving a "TL wave" on the road the way, say, Beetle owners do (or I could cite RX-7 owners from personal experience). While it's a very nice car, reliable, nice styling, etc., the TL isn't anything "special" to your average motorist.
07-26-2010, 03:02 PM
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The 1G TL was essentially a renamed Acura Vigor, at least as to the 2.5-litre model. The renaming came about at the time when Acura started dumping all their traditional model names (except "Integra"), supposedly because Honda management were annoyed that people would brag about driving a "Legend" rather than an "Acura." As I recall the Vigor had generally gotten largely unfavorable reviews, due in no small part to a poorly-implemented 2.5-litre inline-5, and the original "2.5TL" was essentially the same car in most ways. I recall thinking it was fairly forgettable. I saw a Vigor on the road a couple of weeks ago up in the York, PA, area and I had the same reaction—a footnote in Acura history more notable because the later iterations of the car so thoroughly surpassed the original. (There's certainly nothing wrong with 5-cylinder engines. Audi and Volvo have done pretty well with them over the years.)
I do think it's kind of funny that our current 3G TLs are essentially the heirs to the Vigor, though.
I don't think your average driver or car enthusiast will ever view the 3G TL as something to note when he sees one on the road, even 15 or 20 years down the road. It's simply too common a car, yet it's also not SO common a car that everyone will have memories of driving one at some point such that it becomes a nostalgia thing to see one. The old air-cooled VW Beetle became so ubiquitous that it sort of falls into the latter category for a lot of people. (For those of you in your 20s, think about how many of your parents had Beetles prior to having kids precisely because the Beetle was affordable and easy to fix.) This sort of goes along with the thread someone started a year or two ago about TL owners not giving a "TL wave" on the road the way, say, Beetle owners do (or I could cite RX-7 owners from personal experience). While it's a very nice car, reliable, nice styling, etc., the TL isn't anything "special" to your average motorist.
I do think it's kind of funny that our current 3G TLs are essentially the heirs to the Vigor, though.
I don't think your average driver or car enthusiast will ever view the 3G TL as something to note when he sees one on the road, even 15 or 20 years down the road. It's simply too common a car, yet it's also not SO common a car that everyone will have memories of driving one at some point such that it becomes a nostalgia thing to see one. The old air-cooled VW Beetle became so ubiquitous that it sort of falls into the latter category for a lot of people. (For those of you in your 20s, think about how many of your parents had Beetles prior to having kids precisely because the Beetle was affordable and easy to fix.) This sort of goes along with the thread someone started a year or two ago about TL owners not giving a "TL wave" on the road the way, say, Beetle owners do (or I could cite RX-7 owners from personal experience). While it's a very nice car, reliable, nice styling, etc., the TL isn't anything "special" to your average motorist.
07-26-2010, 04:08 PM
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07-26-2010, 04:16 PM
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The Vigor got slammed because it was smaller than an Accord inside. The 2.5 liter engine was actually quite nice for its era, especially with a manual transmission.
07-27-2010, 04:53 AM
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I can show you with example that any vehicle with up keep will look stunning and amazing even after 15 years. I use to have a 95 maxima with original paint, it looked amazing. Then I was given an 95 S500 Benz in highschool for a while before it was shipped to Greece. With proper up keep and maintance any vehicle will look classy after 15 years.
My sold 95 maxima sold with 125,000 miles.
95 S500 with 206,000 miles
Those pictures of the mercedes was when it was home in NJ.. Now in Greece after 6 years of sitting she looks like this..
Some paint Fade, needs maintance work and sooo on.. It's a real shame for such a beautiful vehicle like a big body S500 benz to be treated this way, but no worries.. It's coming back here to NJ going to get fixed up nicely will look stunning.
My sold 95 maxima sold with 125,000 miles.
95 S500 with 206,000 miles
Those pictures of the mercedes was when it was home in NJ.. Now in Greece after 6 years of sitting she looks like this..
Some paint Fade, needs maintance work and sooo on.. It's a real shame for such a beautiful vehicle like a big body S500 benz to be treated this way, but no worries.. It's coming back here to NJ going to get fixed up nicely will look stunning.
07-29-2010, 11:00 AM
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Maybe then ment 30...
07-29-2010, 02:03 PM
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I think it will still be a good looking car in 15 years but there are a ton of TLs made. I think it will be like when I see the Vigor now. I do a double take and think that was a really elegant car for it's time.
I own a car that's 26 years old and I remember them when they were new. I remember the feeling I got then and now. I bought mine when it was 10yrs old and at that time I got some comments but not too much. Now that it's past 20yrs I get stopped everywhere I go like it's an exotic. I think it's will be sort of the same way with the TL. When it's 26 years old and still looks new, people will admire it.
I own a car that's 26 years old and I remember them when they were new. I remember the feeling I got then and now. I bought mine when it was 10yrs old and at that time I got some comments but not too much. Now that it's past 20yrs I get stopped everywhere I go like it's an exotic. I think it's will be sort of the same way with the TL. When it's 26 years old and still looks new, people will admire it.
07-29-2010, 02:55 PM
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I think the 3G TL will age very well in the long-term. Even though they are bland by today's standards, I still like and take a good look when I see a 1G or 2G TL on the road. One thing I notice about Acura owners is they take excellent care of their vehicles no matter what age their are. I have yet to see any old generation Acura model, TL, CL, RSX, NSX, etc that was beat to shit, marks all over it. They have always been in excellent looking condition.
I hope to see many 3G TL's like that on the road 15 years from now!
I hope to see many 3G TL's like that on the road 15 years from now!
07-29-2010, 04:14 PM
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07-29-2010, 08:15 PM
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Right from the getgo, I thought the 1G was a nice looking car (like all other Hondas), but not exciting. I still feel the same way today, but I appreciate seeing them in good condition. For me the 2G was definitely heading in a good direction. Again, I still admire them and I see plenty of them (including TL-S) in great condition. I may be biased as a 3G owner, but I think it clearly had the most exciting styling of all Acura (except NSX). While it obviously won't be the hot thing down the road in terms of styling... I think it will always be remembered as one of the most well-liked cars from Honda.
07-29-2010, 09:33 PM
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Right from the getgo, I thought the 1G was a nice looking car (like all other Hondas), but not exciting. I still feel the same way today, but I appreciate seeing them in good condition. For me the 2G was definitely heading in a good direction. Again, I still admire them and I see plenty of them (including TL-S) in great condition. I may be biased as a 3G owner, but I think it clearly had the most exciting styling of all Acura (except NSX). While it obviously won't be the hot thing down the road in terms of styling... I think it will always be remembered as one of the most well-liked cars from Honda.
,well said!!
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