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05-20-2004, 04:28 PM
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I know numerous people have complained about butt prints and the leather stretching way tooo soon for their liking. I took mine to the dealer today and they agreed with me and have order a replacement seat. I would suggest you all do the same because I don't think you'd have a problem getting it replaced.
05-20-2004, 04:39 PM
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caball88, I went to Acura of Manhattan. I called over the phone a few weeks ago and schedule an appointment for today. They lady told me it would be about a 3 to 4 hour wait. I said okay and was about to go kill some time. I went to the showroom, came back and she stopped me and told me they approved it and that they would have to order the part. As for pics, I'd gotta purchase a damn camera. Basically the leather is stretched. It shouldn't be happening that fast.
05-20-2004, 04:42 PM
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Also, I think there's a good possibility that it won't happen this time because there were 2 TL'ers there and the seats didn't have butt prints. They were dirty though. I don't think they keep up with the car. So that convinced me that it shouldn't be happening.
05-20-2004, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by meathead
do it. DO IT!
yeah, they replaced mine too.
yeah, they replaced mine too.
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05-20-2004, 05:14 PM
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Also, I think there's a good possibility that it won't happen this time because there were 2 TL'ers there and the seats didn't have butt prints. They were dirty though. I don't think they keep up with the car. So that convinced me that it shouldn't be happening.
05-20-2004, 09:02 PM
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I dont have serious butt prints on the driver seat. (I'm 170lb) but I do have some serious "old" wrinkle developed on my left/right side seat. I can't believe a 70mile trip to Hapers Ferry last sunday will cause that kind of wrinkle. Even more, my back side seats got wrinkles as well. The problem is, no one has been setting in the back seat from the day I purchased TL. What an amazing hi-tech corrugate feature. :think: I'm scared and at the mean time I ordered lexol conditioner.
05-20-2004, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GaleForce
Condition your leather 
As a comparison, my leather recliners that I paid way too much for have "butt prints". I'm told good soft leather will do this. Wrinkles also come with good leather. Rips and tears, however, are not a mark of good leather.
05-20-2004, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by meathead
do it. DO IT!
yeah, they replaced mine too.
yeah, they replaced mine too.
05-21-2004, 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cdn04TL
no problems here with over 1000 kms......maybe some of you guys should lay off Mickey D's for a while :lol2:
05-21-2004, 09:48 AM
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I put some Zaino leather conditioner on my seats and the "butt prints" almost disappeared.
As a comparison, my leather recliners that I paid way too much for have "butt prints". I'm told good soft leather will do this. Wrinkles also come with good leather. Rips and tears, however, are not a mark of good leather.
As a comparison, my leather recliners that I paid way too much for have "butt prints". I'm told good soft leather will do this. Wrinkles also come with good leather. Rips and tears, however, are not a mark of good leather.
The stretching (butt prints) is a different story. The dealers should fix that.
05-21-2004, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by nking54580
how long ago did they replace they and are the prints coming back?
05-21-2004, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by meathead
about 1 month ago, there were some creases, now they are coming back in a different location but they aren't as bad as the first ones. the leather is really shitty. it was really apparent when i was in my buddys 2002 tl w/ almost 50k miles and his seats look better than mine...
05-22-2004, 06:19 AM
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Hey guys...leather is going to wrinkle...PERIOD!!!
If you don't want wrinkle's...get a car with cloth or vinyl seats. The wrinkle's and creases you get in leather is just normal wear and stretching. Leather is a natural product, and as such will stretch with time. You can get thick hard leather like Mercedes uses, and IMHO it's not comfortable,and it won't stretch as much, but I personally don't like it because it's too hard. My Legend had thick leather seats, and after 100,000 miles had few wrinkles, but it wasn't very comfortable and I'd rather have the soft supple leather in the TL, than the hard thick leather in a Mercedes. It's a matter of taste, but don't get too excited about wrinkles...it's just a sign that the material is leather and not vinyl.
If you don't want wrinkle's...get a car with cloth or vinyl seats. The wrinkle's and creases you get in leather is just normal wear and stretching. Leather is a natural product, and as such will stretch with time. You can get thick hard leather like Mercedes uses, and IMHO it's not comfortable,and it won't stretch as much, but I personally don't like it because it's too hard. My Legend had thick leather seats, and after 100,000 miles had few wrinkles, but it wasn't very comfortable and I'd rather have the soft supple leather in the TL, than the hard thick leather in a Mercedes. It's a matter of taste, but don't get too excited about wrinkles...it's just a sign that the material is leather and not vinyl.
05-22-2004, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by nking54580
okay smart ass, I'm not fat. I'm 5'7 and a half and weight 169. The car shouldn't have all the damn leather issues.
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds. If you weighed as much, you'd have no buttprints and/or wrinkling as found in my vehicle.
The Atkins® diet is a terrific way to shed your chub and save your seats without the need for Lexol®. Once the weight is off, you'll also feel less grumpy and less prone to complain about the best car on the road for under $40,000.
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05-22-2004, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by nking54580
I know numerous people have complained about butt prints and the leather stretching way tooo soon for their liking. I took mine to the dealer today and they agreed with me and have order a replacement seat. I would suggest you all do the same because I don't think you'd have a problem getting it replaced.
05-22-2004, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Norse396
I'm 275lbs and have yet to have butt prints or wrinkle problems with my seat. Could be my ass is wide enough to make it even across the seat, who knows but so far so good for me.
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05-22-2004, 09:55 AM
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You are incorrect. At 5'7 and 169 pounds you're not clinically 'obese' but you are fat.
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds.
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds.
Still, the implication BJ is making is correct. A lot of Americans don't think they are overweight when in fact they are. Obesity is rampant in this country, and starting to get worse in other Westernized nations, too. Fortunately, owning a TL can help. Next time you're hungry for a snack you know you shouldn't have, just take a drive in your glorious TL instead. It will satisfy like a Snicker's without the calories.
Oh, and no eating in that nice clean car, either!
05-22-2004, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by boltjames
You are incorrect. At 5'7 and 169 pounds you're not clinically 'obese' but you are fat.
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds. If you weighed as much, you'd have no buttprints and/or wrinkling as found in my vehicle.
The Atkins® diet is a terrific way to shed your chub and save your seats without the need for Lexol®. Once the weight is off, you'll also feel less grumpy and less prone to complain about the best car on the road for under $40,000.
BJ
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds. If you weighed as much, you'd have no buttprints and/or wrinkling as found in my vehicle.
The Atkins® diet is a terrific way to shed your chub and save your seats without the need for Lexol®. Once the weight is off, you'll also feel less grumpy and less prone to complain about the best car on the road for under $40,000.
BJ
05-22-2004, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by xpditor42
Don't forget to augment the Atkins diet with the Zaino shakes!
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05-22-2004, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by boltjames
You are incorrect. At 5'7 and 169 pounds you're not clinically 'obese' but you are fat.
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds. If you weighed as much, you'd have no buttprints and/or wrinkling as found in my vehicle.
The Atkins® diet is a terrific way to shed your chub and save your seats without the need for Lexol®. Once the weight is off, you'll also feel less grumpy and less prone to complain about the best car on the road for under $40,000.
BJ
A 5'7 male's optimum weight is 145 pounds. If you weighed as much, you'd have no buttprints and/or wrinkling as found in my vehicle.
The Atkins® diet is a terrific way to shed your chub and save your seats without the need for Lexol®. Once the weight is off, you'll also feel less grumpy and less prone to complain about the best car on the road for under $40,000.
BJ
05-22-2004, 01:58 PM
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I'm 6'4" and about 250. I don't have butt prints on the drivers side. I have about 3300 miles on my TL. Now, my passenger's seat has an on again, off again prints. I'd say of the 3300 miles, someone has been in that seat for less than half, maybe a third. I'd Zaino'd it and Lexol'd it several times and at the moment, it's gone. My vin is 16xxx.
05-22-2004, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by budman
I'm 6'4" and about 250. I don't have butt prints on the drivers side. I have about 3300 miles on my TL. Now, my passenger's seat has an on again, off again prints. I'd say of the 3300 miles, someone has been in that seat for less than half, maybe a third. I'd Zaino'd it and Lexol'd it several times and at the moment, it's gone. My vin is 16xxx.
Try to get a GF with a big butt. It spreads out the weight. However, if you're getting butt prints around the corners on the sides of the seat bottoms, you've gone too far. If you're having trouble finding girls with big butts, contact boltjames and ask for his little black book. :facelick:
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Originally Posted by nking54580
First of all you fake ass doctor. Everyone will not fall into that category. Second, weight is not just determined by your HEIGHT. Age plays a part as well. Third you don't know A MOTHERFUCKEN thing about me. I could be a body builder. Just because I'm 5'7 and 169 doesn't mean I'm fat. Let me asure your dumb ass right now. I'm not a body builder but I am very much into working about. Always have been and you would not know I'm 169. Another thing, this car SHOULD be made to support ANYONE at 169lbs whether they're the correct weight for their height or not. Don't let your smart mouth get you in trouble.
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05-22-2004, 03:49 PM
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Phat is the new Fat!
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Don't make this personal, puffyboy.
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Originally Posted by nking54580
First of all you fake ass doctor. Everyone will not fall into that category. Second, weight is not just determined by your HEIGHT. Age plays a part as well. Third you don't know A MOTHERFUCKEN thing about me. I could be a body builder. Just because I'm 5'7 and 169 doesn't mean I'm fat. Let me asure your dumb ass right now. I'm not a body builder but I am very much into working about. Always have been and you would not know I'm 169. Another thing, this car SHOULD be made to support ANYONE at 169lbs whether they're the correct weight for their height or not. Don't let your smart mouth get you in trouble.
$.02 :banghead:
05-22-2004, 04:57 PM
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Don't make this personal, puffyboy.
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Before this gets out of hand please be advised BJ loves to mess with folks. "Most" and I say most of the time it's all fun and games.. Until someone gets hurt that is...
05-22-2004, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Eduardo
....yeah, that diatribe is prone to elevating his BP. He surely must be out of breath!
(Please note my comments are purely tongue-in-check)
(Please note my comments are purely tongue-in-check)
I see you have jokes so lets end this right now. When ever you're in NY then msg me. We can have a challenge in whatever. Basketball, Football, Baseball, Weight Lifting, Push ups, Sit ups, Running or whatever. It doesn't matter okay Mr. Olympia. This is a forum for the TL so lets keep it like that. Cut it with all the insulting remarks when you don't even know the person.
05-22-2004, 05:32 PM
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I guess I am confused, is the leather supposed to stay like it just came out of the factory? Is a baseball glove supposed to stay stiff as new? Are Feragamo's not supposed to break in? Is a Natuzzi sofa not supposed to get softer and more supple? I can't understand why all of you FREAKS think your TL is immune to the law of physics or to natural wear!!! Get over it! It is animal skin, it used to roam around on a cow, it is no different that yours or my skin!! I bet if you looked at the butts that are leaving the marks, they probably have a few more wrinkles in them than the day they left the factory!
05-22-2004, 05:59 PM
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1> The leather is soft.
2> It will show a butt print when you get up from the seat
3>Come back in 10 minutes and the butt print will be gone. = no problem. Also lexol every month and it is sure to keep the leather from drying out and wearing at a accellerated rate> . IMO
2> It will show a butt print when you get up from the seat
3>Come back in 10 minutes and the butt print will be gone. = no problem. Also lexol every month and it is sure to keep the leather from drying out and wearing at a accellerated rate> . IMO
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Originally Posted by nking54580
I see you have jokes so lets end this right now. When ever you're in NY then msg me. We can have a challenge in whatever. Basketball, Football, Baseball, Weight Lifting, Push ups, Sit ups, Running or whatever. It doesn't matter okay Mr. Olympia. This is a forum for the TL so lets keep it like that. Cut it with all the insulting remarks when you don't even know the person.
(5'7 + 169) x (Wrinkled Leather / Excuses) = Pudgy
I really do not mean any insult, so please don't take it that way. If you're offended I truly apologize, chubster. Can you please pass the sausage?
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05-22-2004, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by boltjames
A 'challenge'? I'm thin. Don't need muscles. You probably could beat me at, ooh, weight lifting. All I'm doing is some simple arithmetic:
(5'7 + 169) x (Wrinkled Leather / Excuses) = Pudgy
I really do not mean any insult, so please don't take it that way. If you're offended I truly apologize, chubster. Can you please pass the sausage?
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(5'7 + 169) x (Wrinkled Leather / Excuses) = Pudgy
I really do not mean any insult, so please don't take it that way. If you're offended I truly apologize, chubster. Can you please pass the sausage?
BJ