I see... maybe I should have been a little more specifc....that was a vent against those that gave me a hard time and blamed the problems and shit on me..... their attitude was one that the car is not the problem I was and my dealer was..... I won my case because that was not the case..... and I am so confident that they are supporting a lost cause and that they will one day realize how I would have been in their shoes a couple months ago by wholehartedly supporting the TL from bashing but that all changes once you go though what I did and what you are currently going through.....I just relized that executives high up in Acura even blame their slide in quality on the 3rd gen TL!.....I truly do feel sorry that you have problems, after all.... I went through the much same thing....

 

My dash was fading too, but after I applied the AUDI interior protection which belongs to my A4, it never happened again. I just used it once, and it has never faded again for 2 monthes already. Now my interior is soo damn shine.

 

Having a shiny dash is dangerous, sun can shine off of it and at the wrong angle and intensity, can hinder or even block your vision. Be careful!

 

well, it is just a figurative representation.

but thanx for ur concern~

 

Elmer.....its time for you to go.......

 

Trance....oh because you were one of the ones who joined the clan intent on disproving my problems and blaming them on me? just cant cant stand it because thats not the case...and you guys got proven wrong. That post was directed at people like you and not redsox
But...I dont blame you or Benz, you wont realize it until you have problems of your own down the line
Hopefully you wont but I wouldnt hold my breath on it

 

I don't think we're that lucky, though.

 

When it comes to quality all I can say that for 6 years that I live in USA (I am from Europe) I found out that quality of many products (goods) is very low here.
Acura TL is not exception.
Personal experience:
Maxima made in Japan 5 year of ownership:
Number of rattles =0
Number of any other problems =0
TL made in USA: 1 year of ownership:
Number of rattles =10 and keeps growing...
Number of any other problems =0

It seems that I figure out why some people rate TL very high:
They did not expereince quality of goods from Japan, Germany, GB, Norway etc.
I prefer not to hurt someone's feelings about this country. I just exposed my thoughts.

 

Im not trying to disprove anything. Another reason why I think you're an idiot.

I hear rattles in my car right now. Nothing big, you dont see me on here whining like a fucking school girl about it do you?? I just dont make a BIG deal out of LITTLE problems. I could care less if my ass leaves a print in my leather seat. I didnt take out a pair calipers and measure the alignment on my trunk. I have already started to treat my dash and so far so good, but if and when it starts to fade I will deal with it then. You will not see a thread on how much I am starting to hate my car because of this. I will post my concerns in problem and fixes. You have become counter productive and you do nothing for this forum. I have no respect for you and never will.............its time for you to go...

 

Good points.

I know that personally I have had less fit and finish issues with every single car I've had before the TL, short of a Pontiac Grand Prix.

My Jeep doesnt rattle as much, my vette doesnt rattle as much, my previous infiniti was nearly flawless.

Not only that but I received/receive quality service from the other brands, I do not with Acura.

I can tell you that the style of this car and the features are awesome, it's just too bad there isnt an infiniti or lexus badge on the car, that way we'd be getting much better service.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain why I bought a 40k car and get offered a pontiac vibe as a loaner, and when I dont want a peice of shit I have to pay for it. THAT IS NOT A LUXURY CAR COMPANY, THAT IS A JOKE.

 

My problems were not little by ANY means. THose that you listed above are a fraction of the problems. If that was all that I had I would not have gotten the damn thing repurchased.
If you can live with seats with deep wrinkles and rattles everywhere more power to ya.

 

Good post, and Hello from Shreveport

 

First and foremost this is an open forum about a particular car, one may come here and post about their problems that THEY care having with the car, and hopefully someone will be able to either relate, or relate a fix to said problem.
We're all supposed to be able to help eachother.

Everyone has problems, almost all cars have some sort of problem during it's lifespan whether 1,50, or 100k miles YMMV.

Also we shouldn't be so quick bash (unless they are trolls and truly deserve it).

Some will have more problems with their cars than others.

Like Trancemission, I don't sweat the small things, although they may bother me, and yes, I may post about them, but doesn't mean I'm doin an "I hate my car, Acura sucks" because that one particular case may not apply to other Acura models or other cars of the same model.
If a problem like the Fading dash (for example) really is an ongoing problem for a great deal of 3rd gen owners, then yes, something should be done. I for one am very anal about the presence of my interior, people don't ride on and stare at my bumpers for 30 minute trips, So I can attest to those who are making a big deal about it.

All I can say is that if your Acura dealer will not address your concerns, then by all means, find another dealer, or trade up, because having a non caring dealership is like walking around in wet clothes in an air conditioned room, no one likes it.

 

Yeah but having a problem at 100K is a hell of a lot different than 100 miles. At 100k the car does not owe you too much anymore if you know what I mean. As for finding another dealer, that can be a pain in the arse and you might have to go through the same process. As for trading up, well if you had a problem with the brand or the dealer, than trading up could just be asking for more expensive issues.

I do not have a problem if the tires wear out in 25,000 or the brakes have to be replaced at 40K. But it seems the 3G TL set up is eating through more tires and brakes than most other cars. That is not to mention several other issues. It will be interesting to see how well the 06s are made to address the issues that people have experienced with the 04/05s.

 

I guess I'm lucky because my '04TL 6mt has had "0" problems. No rattles, no dash fade although I use 303 regularly and keep it indoors out of the sun. The stock tires are history and I'm running PS2's now. I really love this car and wouldn't trade it for anything I could afford at this time. I've had 4 Acura's and never had any problems worth complaining about. Legend, 2001 TL, 2002 TLS, 2004 TL6mt. I loved them all. I'd probably still have the Legend if it wasn't involved in a serious accident. The 2001 was great...I just wanted the S model. The 2004 TL was purchased simply because of the styling and 6mt.

 

you are the reason this site is here....

 

Here is something interesting for everyone from CR...

This pretty much sums it up for people... lol


Love is myopic (if not blind)

Every year, shortly after we publish our reliability survey, we hear from a small number of subscribers who want to let us know how reliable their particular car is, despite what our survey said about it.

We suspect that we’ll hear from the lucky owners who haven’t had much trouble. Our 2003 survey showed below-average reliability for the Subaru Baja. But a Virginia owner of one said, “I love my Baja as my wife loves her 2003 Forester. I have owned so-so vehicles in my life, but I put my Baja up there with my first car, a used ‘50 Plymouth.”

We’re also surprised at what some readers consider “reliable.” Philip Salley, of Del Mar, Calif., told us that his Corvette was the most reliable car he’d owned in 40 years. Even so, he had replaced brake rotors, the muffler, an air-conditioner control, and a wheel bearing--all within the first 44,000 miles.

Then there are the people who seem to like their cars--even ones with subpar reliability--because they attract attention. For example, Robert Tureaud, of Taylor, Texas, who owns a Mini Cooper, said, “It has run flawlessly since day one, the fit and finish is excellent, and everyone wants to know all about it.”

Bernard Swiecki, an analyst at the Center for Automotive Research, in Ann Arbor, Mich., says: “There’s an enduring belief that any initial problems will go away, especially if the car is perceived as cool to begin with. Some brands just have a mystique about them.” Case in point is the Volkswagen Touareg owned by R.J. O’Connor of Parker, Colo.: “When it’s running properly, it’s great to drive. But it’s been back in the shop at least seven times and sometimes I want to drive it off a cliff. I still love it, though.”

 

I love this car, I hate the lack of service and the lack of professionalism by Acura. That about sums up my problems.

I wish that there was an infiniti badge on this car because if that were the case I would get service and problems fixed.

I take my car in and they cant fix anything. It's very irritating to hear rattles all day, headliner, dash, passenger seat, windows. What's even worse is when you have guests in your car that tell you that their window is rattling. (The car is not even 6 months old)

There, in itself, is the problem. NO SERVICE, NO LUXURY CONCEPT. The fact that my warranty work loaner was a Pontiac Vibe tells you that Acura has no idea what they're doing. No matter if I had an appointment or not, I always received an infiniti loaner or a jeep loaner. I didnt spend 40k to drive a pontiac vibe loaner with no options. I can tell you that if I could service my vehicle at infiniti I would want to keep it, hence I dont.

 

Dude every fucking body on the forum has a problem understanding you? Have you ever thought that the problem might be YOU and not the rest of the world..?

Show me a recent thread that you have started or posted in that has not been locked down by the mods...I see the same happening here due to your dumb-ass bringing all the negativity to a thread started by someone looking for opinions...

 

Here you go. Out of 27 threads I think like 3 arent "I hate my Acura".

https://acurazine.com/forums/search.php?searchid=169923

Redsox, I can only hope that Acura fixes the issues you have with your TL.

Might I suggest you taking it to David Mc David in Plano. I take mine to a guy named Bob Johnson. He is one of the reasons I have returned to buy another acura. You can ask anybody in our Dallas thread about Bob. He will help you. Good luck my friend.

 

you as well have made your point. there is no need to start any more threads on it. just keep us posted on your issues.

 

I agree, you should not be having these problems with your TL. That said, it looks more to me that you should seek out a different dealship / service center. I am not excusing the issues you report, but if you are not getting satisfaction with the Acura center you currently are using, I would certainly go elsewhere. I am happy with my dealership and with a phone call, my Service Advisor makes an appointment when an Acura loaner can be offered to me. It is a cooperative effort. So I cannot agree with your No Luxury, No Service statement. I do agree it may be an issue with YOUR particular dealership.

That said, I can tell you all of the issues you point out in your TL are similar to a new Lexus GS we have in the family. We only have 2 Lexus dealships here in Tampa Bay. One was not responding to the issues as well as we expected. So we went to the other. It was more responsive and 'premium' in the way we were handled. But still the GS has rattles, a creaking seat, bubbled headliner and a warping dash. I guess they second dealership is just making us feel better about it,,,lol.

I think we cannot expect perfection from our machines. But I agree how we are treated comes into play on how we cope with these issues. If that dealership is not supportive, go elsewhere. If no Acura dealships meet ur satisfaction, then by all means make the dealership experience a big part of your next selection & purchase (I do).

I think problems are a fact of life. Some more than others. But I also believe addressing these situations is not absolute. It think it is as much our responsibility on how much we compromise as to how much is offered in resolution. If that balance is not being met, you alone are responsible to take action as to what makes you happy. You have a choice to go elsewhere, whether that is another dealership, another car or to accept some of the flaws and be happy.

 

DITTO.

Well, so I took my car to Acura to talk to the DPSM about the dash fade. My appt was for 10. He was running late and said he would be in at 10:30. By 11 am he still was not there. The dealership's service manager was so embarrassed and couyld noit even get him on the phone. Have not gotten a call from the DPSM explaining the "blow-off" or apologizing.

Acura TLC my ass - more like Acura arrogance. I am writing a letter to ACS (worthless group but will get it out of my system).

I am so tired of the lack of customer service displayed by corporate Acura. My dealership is fine but once you kick it up, forget it. Next year, I will be trading or selling the TL.

 

Which is exactly why Elmer could help us out by detailing his "arbitration" experience. It's a well known fact that ACS reps read this board daily. They sure as hell don't want anymore complaints to go to arbitration after Elmer "stuck it to 'em".



If enough of the people on this board with multiple, chronic problems are able to get to arbitration, I think Acura and ACS will totally change their tactics. Arbitration will be way to costly and negative for them.

The mere mention of Elmer's arbitration success (and hopefully others to follow) to an ACS rep could be enough to get their attention!

So Elmer, we're waiting....Please give us a good write-up!! Maybe the mods will make it a sticky or put it in the Garage.

 

I go in tomorrow for the first of many visits to the service department.. I am very interested to see how it will go.. By the way I am going to Vandegriff Acura in Arlington, Texas.. Supposedly it was voted one of the best acura dealerships in Texas, we'll surely see..... I will keep you all updated...

 

Can u do us a favor: ask acura to recall all the TLs which have rattles?

It is more useful than say anything else... Mr. kindness OR say Mr. sympathy...?

Well, maybe u r not real...

 

thats a good idea. keep all this to one thread.

 

Elmer....you just couldnt leave me out of it could you. Dude....I have said it many times before and will say it ONE MORE TIME!

DUDE, YOU ARE A FUCKING NUT CASE! Nothing more be said. I just sure wish you were from aroud here so I would pop your face inside out! And trust me dude...there was nothing to "win" there? All you did was prove what a dumbass you are and how ignorant you can be. This is only made obvious by the NUMEROUS posts of those saying the same already right here in this thread....so say what you may. And by the way Elmer...whats up with that writing style. Talk about trying to make out something from a bunch of jibberish! (lol)

EAT SHIT AND DIE ELMER! There ya go big guy....wanna keep making yourself look like a fucking idiot...keep bringing me up and I will be glad to come around and keep doing so. I am only glad to keep coming around and calling a fucking idiot a fucking idiot! It isnt your message dude....it is you! Figure it out..... (ok people...I know that is asking a lot!)...nodody give one care about what you have to say anymore other that to get their entertainment value out of you every day jousting with you. Why dont you try to ADD something to the community instead of being such a liability on it! Everybody had read your posts....and had figured out that you are not even real dude! Why, because they cant believe that ANYBODY is this friggin stupid that they would continue the way you do given all the feedback you have received. Do you know how to add to society Elmer....? Cause none of us would have figured that out from your postings here on Acurazine! Again Elmer.....eat shit fucknut!

Elmer....you cant win with a self proclaimed asshole dude! Better luck next time! BTW Elmer....you should be nicer to me....I could be your daddy!

 

I got it all started for Elmer right here...

https://acurazine.com/forums/dating-relationships-14/no-no-nooooooo-125188/

 

This has me torn between watching cows fly (a la Wilma) and following this thread. It is good to have choices.

Re: Wilma.... Has anyone seen my flamingo lawn ornaments???

 

Haha.. How are things down there btw?

 

Tampa is doing fine. Not too much rain, but winds were stronger than I expected. Some trees down, spotty power outages and surf is UP in the bay. Sun is already out but 45+ mph wind still.

South Florida is still reporting in.

Thanks for asking.

Oh yeah, the TL is in the garage.

 

Glad to read everything is fine in Tampa and most importantly your TL is in the garage!

 

Elmer has worn out his welcome and needs to go plain and simple.

 

I wouldn't have to drive to the dealer with a palm tree poking through the roof and complain ACS wouldn't fix it!

<ducking>

 

I understand your anger Benz. Elmer is a douchbag, that goes without saying, but what I meant was we need a thread to address all the issues these guys are having with ACS and then maybe we could contact Acura somehow and bring all these problems to light. Elmer just got out of hand with his ranting. But he wasnt treated well by Acura and we do need to get to the bottom of why.

 

Ahmen.

I acknowledge the problems. But I agree, unless we can demontrate a means to deal with ACS appropriately, the ranting serves no purpose. This is an IDEAL way this community can collectively address the ACS issue and offer support to members needing guidance.

 

I haven't had any problems, but I know quite a few members have, and I do think this would be a good idea. People might even get more attention going to ACS as a group versus solo.

 

Votes for trancemission as Mod for Constructive Solutions Forum?

 

dude that is so crazy that you said that!!

Constructive Solutions..........nice