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Old May 15, 2013 | 07:22 PM
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It's the strangest thing.............

Come out of work just like any other day and fire up the TL. WTH!!!! who modified my exhaust system while I was at work???? The car sounds absolutely strange. For years it has sounded exactly how it was modified to sound, how I liked it. HFC, no mid, longer resonator to stock rear mufflers with quad tips.

Now it sounds completely different!!! No CEL, engine runs fine and smooth, no perceived power loss or drivability issues, although I only drove 3 miles home so we will see. Perhaps HFC disintegrated? would expect a CEL.

Not really sure how to diagnose. not sure what it would have sounded straight piped so if I remove at j-pipe not sure what it should sound like?

Its not louder, its just way different and not in a good way.

Strangest thing ever.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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did you have a long day at work
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Old May 15, 2013 | 08:54 PM
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by hfc you mean the 3rd cat one right? not the hfpc. if anything happened to that cat, it would not cause cel because there are no sensors in that one

most likely reason is maybe you scraped the exhaust somewhere and now have a leak.

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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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No scrapes or dents or leaks. All three are high flow cats. Sound out of the tailpipe is different. Hard to describe. Wife says its not as crisp. More muffled but not louder. I noticed the rpms dont drop the same and it doesnt "gurgle" like it did before when off the gas. WTF???
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:38 PM
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Odd...in for the reason
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Old May 15, 2013 | 09:57 PM
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get the car up in the air and check under your car to see if all exhaust parts are intact? Most notably the 3rd cat. It's pretty common for thieves to steal cats to scrap for $$
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:25 PM
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everything is intact
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Old May 15, 2013 | 10:54 PM
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Maybe post up a video?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:09 AM
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Old May 16, 2013 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by vietxquangstah
get the car up in the air and check under your car to see if all exhaust parts are intact? Most notably the 3rd cat. It's pretty common for thieves to steal cats to scrap for $$
I'm pretty sure he'd know it if someone stole his third cat.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 10:06 AM
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I know you said everything was intact but did you check the mufflers for holes, scrapes, etc..
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Old May 16, 2013 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
I'm pretty sure he'd know it if someone stole his third cat.
lol yea agreed....dont think that would slip under the radar
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:22 PM
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Make sure no one stuck a potato in your tailpipe.

At idle, do you see any fluctuation in RPM?

Get her up to temp.. do some hot runs.. and get a IR therm and snap some temps of the CATs going in and out.
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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:25 PM
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Disconnect the battery for a bit and see if it changes?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 01:12 PM
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Sounds like you had the inside of a cat break. It happened to me and my car ran like crap and sounded way different. It would do it as the cat cooled down and then maybe cracked and broke all together. Check your cats
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Old May 16, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Comptechtl2367
Sounds like you had the inside of a cat break. It happened to me and my car ran like crap and sounded way different. It would do it as the cat cooled down and then maybe cracked and broke all together. Check your cats

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Old May 16, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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will investigate. sounds like a good reason to swap j-pipes and see what I find
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Old May 16, 2013 | 03:12 PM
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Tap the cats with a hammer or something and see if it's a thud or a ringing/hollow sound. What type of resonator do you have and how long ago did you add it? Some people say Magnaflows and the likes get louder over time as the packing packs itself in over time.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 03:16 PM
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Problem found and solved! Once on a lift it was apparent that one of the forward hangers tore off and left a bit of a hole! Could not see it without the lift! Procats still intact after 6 years.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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Good to hear you figured it out.
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Old May 17, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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too much stress at work??
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Old May 17, 2013 | 10:15 PM
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Maybe the carbon built up?
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