The infamous 2008 V6 Toyota Camry versus TL

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Old 11-08-2008 | 01:06 AM
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The infamous 2008 V6 Toyota Camry versus TL

Fun stuff - I was surprised by the outcome, although I did have a hunch
Anyways, took this guy from a dead stop - I didn't notice until he punched it while he was one car ahead: I played catch up to confirm. Next light, onto the freeway - took it from a dead stop and we stayed even, side-by-side until around 110 - pulled on him a car and half by 140 (flame suit on )

Again, went around the ramp onto the interstate - 2nd gear pull for me after three honks - pulled on him a car length; driver reaction times on this one: he smashed it before I finished the third honk.

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Old 11-08-2008 | 01:29 AM
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Any one have experience with these pesky/ugly things? haha
Old 11-08-2008 | 11:47 AM
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They are as fast as a stock TL 6MT - 14.3@99mph. You won because you have mods!
Old 11-08-2008 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
They are as fast as a stock TL 6MT - 14.3@99mph. You won because you have mods!
I don't think they're quite that quick. I've seen tests around 14.5-14.7 @ 96-97 mph. 9/10 of the time a base 6MT should creep away from one on the highway. Do you have a link to the 14.3?
Old 11-08-2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
They are as fast as a stock TL 6MT - 14.3@99mph. You won because you have mods!
lol my point exactly
Old 11-08-2008 | 04:36 PM
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1300c, the Camry V6 is a supercar.....




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C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 145 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 170 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g



It's a close ratio 6 speed transmission. This, and more hp and torque makes this car so dang fast. I *knew* the acceleration is just about dead even with the regular TL 6MT for the quarter mile, but will slowly get waxed by a 6MT TL from 100~ 150.

Of course, if driven well on a TL 6MT you could edge out the Camry V6 in the quarter mile.

Yes, the Camry V6 beats BOTH TL 5AT and Type-S 5AT in the quarter mile. Wax.





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Old 11-08-2008 | 04:47 PM
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........and of course here comes the TL 6MT

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 28.4 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.2 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 152 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 174 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g


As both you and I know, the TL 6MT will be faster than the Camry V6 from 0- 130 mph.


My estimate, the TL 5AT should take around 38 seconds from 0- 130 mph. The Type-S Auto should take 35 seconds... uhhh..... tall gears.


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Old 11-08-2008 | 05:00 PM
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Well, maybe, maybe at best the TL 5AT could do 36 seconds at 130 mph and 33 seconds for the Type-S 5AT. That's the best I can offer.


Old 11-08-2008 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
I don't think they're quite that quick. I've seen tests around 14.5-14.7 @ 96-97 mph. 9/10 of the time a base 6MT should creep away from one on the highway. Do you have a link to the 14.3?
Stock they do run 14.3 but not at 99MPH. The magazines always trap fast. Here is a real timeslip from dragtimes. 14.3@97.38 w/ 2.1 60ft.

Here is the link.

http://www.dragtimes.com/Toyota-Camr...lip-10338.html
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Afterall the camry has a detuned version of the IS350's V6 (I believe there's no direct injection in the Camry and it's also missing a few other things), and we all know how fast the IS350 is...that is, the Camry will get "super waxed" by the new Accord 6MT..lol...

Satin, I think most mags correct their performance numbers before publishing? And usually after the correction the numbers tend to be better?
Old 11-08-2008 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Afterall the camry has a detuned version of the IS350's V6 (I believe there's no direct injection in the Camry and it's also missing a few other things), and we all know how fast the IS350 is...that is, the Camry will get "super waxed" by the new Accord 6MT..lol...

Satin, I think most mags correct their performance numbers before publishing? And usually after the correction the numbers tend to be better?
I am not sure if they correct their numbers or not. I know that they use equipment to measure their tests and not a real 1/4 mile track, but I would assume it would have a correction factor for elevation, temp, humidity and others. Most of the time the magazines get really close to real world numbers so you are probobly right in that they use a correction factor.
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I need to run into one of these on the highway. I've seen a few, but they always seem to be piloted by the geriatric croud. I'd hate to have Gramps inhale his respirator tube at 100 mph.


(Can you get the SE with a 4 cyl? I believe most of the ones I've seen are single outlet exhaust.)
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Originally Posted by iforyou
Afterall the camry has a detuned version of the IS350's V6 (I believe there's no direct injection in the Camry and it's also missing a few other things), and we all know how fast the IS350 is...that is, the Camry will get "super waxed" by the new Accord 6MT..lol...

Satin, I think most mags correct their performance numbers before publishing? And usually after the correction the numbers tend to be better?
iforyou, the IS350 comes from the Lexus 3GS family, not the Camry. The IS350 is the *shortened* version of the Lexus GS350 RWD platform. The Camry is a Front wheel drive. Just because both cars have same displacement and have similar weight doesn't mean both are the same car....


I was exaggerating about the Camry being a supercar... ya know sometimes I have funny behavior... The Camry is indeed a quick car though.


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Old 11-08-2008 | 10:12 PM
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But, in the end u have shitty looking car haa.
Old 11-08-2008 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TL|GTX
But, in the end u have shitty looking car haa.
This may very well be your most sensible post yet.
Old 11-08-2008 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Manual Transmission
........and of course here comes the TL 6MT

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 28.4 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 6.2 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph
Top speed (drag limited): 152 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 174 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g

As both you and I know, the TL 6MT will be faster than the Camry V6 from 0- 130 mph.


My estimate, the TL 5AT should take around 38 seconds from 0- 130 mph. The Type-S Auto should take 35 seconds... uhhh..... tall gears.


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I don't know C&D does it. I mean I know this was with an A-Spec, so the suspension and summer tires no doubt helped, but 5.6 to 60 in a FWD car with 258 hp/233 tq and a weight of ~3550 (A-Spec weight) is pretty impressive. I think 5.5 is the best I've seen for a Type-S 6MT.
Old 11-09-2008 | 12:54 AM
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MT, I think you got a little bit confused with what I said..lol..I was only referring to the engine, not the platform/chassis. The Camry uses the 2GR-FE engine, while the IS350 uses the more advanced 2GR-FSE engine that comes with dual injection system (it can use both port injection and direct injection) hence the extra 40hp.

Yea, you can't go much faster than 5.5s from 0-60mph for a stock FWD sedan...I remember reading the comptech SC'ed CL-S, even though it has 369hp, its 0-60mph time isn't any faster than a stock CL-S due to traction problem.
Old 11-09-2008 | 01:21 AM
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Camry could possibly outrun a TL-S?

good kill eric!

I hate the Camry in stock form, but with the kit,rims and lowers I WOULD DEFINETLY DRIVE IT!
Old 11-09-2008 | 09:25 AM
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Indeed, the Camry is an ugly looking car. The TL/TL Type-S look much much better.


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Camry could possibly outrun a TL-S?

good kill eric!

I hate the Camry in stock form, but with the kit,rims and lowers I WOULD DEFINETLY DRIVE IT!
07+ Acura TL-S 5AT vs Toyota Camry V6 6AT = Drivers race!
Old 11-10-2008 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
this may very well be your most sensible post yet.
lol
Old 11-10-2008 | 08:45 AM
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It's still unattractive and is missing a pedal.
Old 11-10-2008 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by anx1300c
This may very well be your most sensible post yet.
+1000. Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Old 11-10-2008 | 03:50 PM
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I think they look good. In black!

Old 11-11-2008 | 04:33 PM
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haha, thanks guys, maybe lol.
Old 11-14-2008 | 02:50 AM
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I win again x2...phew
Old 11-14-2008 | 03:08 AM
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I haven't messed around with a new Camry yet.

How many miles are on your TL erick3?

I just hit 84,000 and it still pulls hard! WOO!
Old 11-14-2008 | 02:09 PM
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haha 84k huh? you're a bit further than me up the road - i just hit 70k over the weekend; still pulling hard here too - could be the colder weather though, or maybe the crank pulley??? finally settled in???
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