David Oconnor

I have a 04 TL and I want to put a j32a2 type s in it.. I already have the type s motor an trans how hard will it be to swap

Midnight Mystery

Honestly, probably more trouble that you're willing to go through.

David Oconnor

I have a 03 cl type s and a 04 TL. The TL is in better shape than the cl so and the TL doesn't have a motor or trans in it all I gotta do is take it out the cl and drop it in

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

So what you're really asking is, what will it take to move the J32A2 and the 6-Speed manual transmission from your 2003 CL Type-S to your 2004 TL (presumably an automatic). Honestly, this is a very bad idea, and should you embark on this project, it has a HUGE likelihood of never being completed.

Your best bet would be to buy a motor and transmission from a bone yard, put them in the TL, sell both cars, and use the proceeds to buy a 3G TL with a 6MT. Following this course of action will yield you a better car, much quicker, and for less money than trying to cannibalize the Type-S to resurrect the TL.

David Oconnor

But can it be done tho I have a buddy that works at a shop an willing to do it for me as long as I help he's not gonna charge me much

teh CL

iTrader: (1)

Anything can be done but it's gonna be more of a headache than anything.

Can't run the J32A2 off the TL ECU & good luck getting the CL-S ECU to work in the TL.

peter6

Like teh CL and others wrote.

Getting motor and transmission into the TL will be the easy part.

Getting all connectors and computers to work with different motor will be the hard part. If your TL was an auto it will be even harder.

For the money both cars are worth, take horseshoez's advice. But it you decide to go with the project anyways keep us updated.

David Oconnor

See I paid $500 for both cars got them at different time so within 2-3 weeks apart the TL didn't have a motor or transmission but the cl type s I have the body is in bad shape it doesn't have a title on it I know the real person who had the car that was good fast car when he had it and I only gave you 500 for it so I want to take everything off the CL ECU and all the all that stuff I have it everything and just dropped into this tl

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Here's the thing, many folks have tried just to simply change an Automatic 3G TL to a 6-Speed Manual and failed miserably; to the best of my knowledge, there are only two folks who've successfully completed the swap and have a 100% working car. You're talking about that swap plus an older generation J32; sorry, if your friend thinks it is doable for a relatively small investment in time and money, he is sorely mistaken.

I cannot say it enough, if you embark upon this project, you will be left with two worthless cars.

David Oconnor

Well you just said two people that you know of has successfully done it which made it is possible so unless you have tried and failed yourself there's one way to find out

peter6

Two people who managed to swap automatic TL to manual, but had two same year, same generation cars, and surplus of parts. ECU is just a start. Interior trim and clutch pedal is walk in the part. There are many "hidden" features (like when you put in reverse, mirror moves down) that troubleshooting is a mess.

But with same year TL it's more or less plug and play - assuming you have a donor car for cheap, otherwise you end up with non working car or have a car you spend 4x the money it's worth.

But different generation different model cars? Try and let us know. Getting motor to run and TL original gauge cluster to talk will be a challenge, and what about all other functions.

You could swap all the parts from CL to TL but that wouldn't look nice. Making TL look like stock car would be really difficult.

And is your TL manual? If not then you will need even more parts.

Sean McQuaid

I'm trying to do the same thing I'm still trying to figure out is can it just plug in, or how difficult would it be to wire

David Oconnor

I'm on the way to pick up my cl which has the j32a2 type s so I'll keep in touch with you once I get the car home imma start my swap

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

Both of you haven't even told us your skill levels, which probably means both of you can't do it yourselves.....

There's a saying...
If you have to ask, you can't afford it/can't do it

David Oconnor

Not once have I said I couldn't afford it

David Oconnor

Not once have I said I couldn't afford it all I did was ask how hard it would be so I'll just have to find out myself then you can see when it's done

rockstar143

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if searching for a thread on how involved this is was too hard, then doing it is probably out of your league. @justnspace is Right.
First few posts confirmed it probably wasn't worth going through...and how to approach it and you dismissed it.
Which means you just wanted a positive confirmation that you should do it for a vote of confidence or ego boost?

Ask your buddy that isn't charging you much if he knows what's involved...he might not realize what he's signing up for
and it'll cost you your project or friendship.

If money wasn't an issue you wouldn't be doing this. You would have bought a clean type S TL 6MT.

Good luck and DO keep us posted though!

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

On a side note...
If I were to take on something that involved I would HAVE to pick a platform that just never came with a manual that would be cool.
Like the Bisimoto Ody.

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

If you had zero intention of heeding our advice, then why did even bother asking?

I'm saying it here and now, this project is heading for failure before you even get started. Why? It is more than obvious you have no idea the complexity involved in making the swap. Long story short, this is a really dumb idea; you'll end up with an unsaleable CL hulk as well as a partially completed Franken TL which won't be worth crap, and if you manage to get it running, it'll be slower than a 3G TL with an automatic.

zeta

iTrader: (1)

These threads crack me up.
I guess it could be worse, like Sean McQuaid's thread where he thinks the 3G J32A3 heads are 'welded' to the block.:

peter6

Or like that one about swapping TL motor into some Dodge or something.

Now let's just wait for somebody wanting to swap Tesla internals into TL or other way around.

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Yeah, we've had a few head-scratchers here recently; here's the current summary (feel free to add to the list, I'm thinking there have been a few more classics of late):

• J32A2/6MT from a CL Type-S into a 3G TL with an automatic (current thread)
• Swapping any J-Series Honda motor into a 2006(ish) Dodge Charger (because Honda power is supposedly better in some way)
• Swapping J32A2 heads into a 3G TL with a J32A3 motor so A2 headers can be used in lieu of the A3 headers (which are supposedly welded to the block)

@David Oconnor, if you are really serious about turning your 3G TL sans motor and tranny into a properly running car, why don't you buy this wreck and use it as a donor:

• https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...t-spec-982083/

Using such a car will increase the odds of a successful project. That said, the deck is still stacked way against you regarding a successful outcome.

1black_seven

iTrader: (2)

Unfortunately these cars aren't as easy as the old Preludes and Integras.
Find a 6MT TL and swap both the motor and transmission. I believe it has to be from an MT, even a J32 from an auto wont work/bolt with the 6MT.

If by some miracle of time and money you made this swap work, there is a ton of electrical re-wiring that will need to be addressed. It will never be a "clean" swap in the end.

AZuser

https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...ending-919156/

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

That's so cold. Frosty, even.

horseshoez

iTrader: (2)

Hmmm, my understanding is the J32A3 from the 2004-2006 model year will bolt to the 6MT from any J-Series engine up through 2006. The J32A3 from the 2007-2008 base TL has a different transmission interface and will not bolt into the earlier cars.

thoiboi

Just prove us all wrong OP. do it

justnspace

iTrader: (1)

that's totally not the point of the idiom

TheSauceBoss

I don't understand these threads.

"Hey guys what do you think about this?"
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"Well nevermind, I'm going to ignore everything presented to me and continue on"

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

Parents need to hug their kids more. That'll prevent threads like this.

teh CL

iTrader: (1)

This won't end well but I'm in for updates..

thoiboi

I promise you won't get any

gatrhumpy

iTrader: (1)

I totally beat my kids.

thoiboi

OP hasn't logged back in since this post


I don't think he's coming back

seinfeld-bassline

lemme guess OP, you also have a Dodge Charger with a blown V6 in it....?


Wow, that is an amazing read. well worth the hour+ i just spent sifting thru

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

u read so slowwwwww

seinfeld-bassline

we prefer 'textual dysfunction' u bigot

rockstar143

iTrader: (6)

ESOL for me...
I read el slow too, bro.

seinfeld-bassline

im just playin... more like it takes a while to read when playing "hide the acura forum cruising from the bossman"

thoiboi

psh..


privacy screens FTW