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Old 02-19-2005, 07:51 AM
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I took my car to the track!!!!

I own a 04 WDP-TL with Nav ,A-spec kit and all. I ran a 1/4 mile in 15.75 sec, top speed was 91.4 mph. Raced against my friends 04 G35 Coupe which he destroyed me . His top speed was 96 mph and ran a 1/4 mile in 14.8 sec. It was fun. I want mods now to make this puppy growl, haha and sprint like a chettah on streriods, lol j/k.
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Auto or 6 speed?
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and the 05 coupes are suppose to be faster...
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Your 1/4-time is pretty high, even for a 5AT. What was your reaction time? Did you only run it once?
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Tell us more about your launch technique and whether or not you kept the VSA on.
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your quarter mile time is kind of high... i just received a Motor Trend magazine yesterday and it says quarter mile on a TL should be 14.4 at 98.2 MPH with a 6 Speed and 14.8 at 94.4 MPH With an Auto... maybe you should run it a couple more times... this information i got was from the March 2005 issue... if you guys want i can scan the page and post it...
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I think there is a link to that article somewhere... but yeah, that time is rather high
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Originally Posted by I10O0I1
your quarter mile time is kind of high... i just received a Motor Trend magazine yesterday and it says quarter mile on a TL should be 14.4 at 98.2 MPH with a 6 Speed and 14.8 at 94.4 MPH With an Auto... maybe you should run it a couple more times... this information i got was from the March 2005 issue... if you guys want i can scan the page and post it...
Well, I would never expect an "average" Joe like us in this forum to post times like the pros do, but his time is definitely high. If he only ran once, maybe he just had a slow reaction time or isn't very comfortable with the tranny yet (if he has a 6MT). Also, track conditions play an important role in racing. On the other hand, the G35 didn't do too bad.
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Was the G35 coupe a 5at or a 6mt?
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i know i was just posting some facts so he can know...
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Originally Posted by jmn4667
Well, I would never expect an "average" Joe like us in this forum to post times like the pros do, but his time is definitely high. If he only ran once, maybe he just had a slow reaction time or isn't very comfortable with the tranny yet (if he has a 6MT). Also, track conditions play an important role in racing. On the other hand, the G35 didn't do too bad.
Reaction time doesn't affect ET in drag racing. The ET is the time from when his front tires broke out of the staging lights to when they crossed the finish line beam.

Lots of other things can affect ET, though. He may have had VSA on. He may have been manually shifting his automatic (presuming that's what it is from the trap speed) and done it poorly. He may have launched poorly with VSA off. The list could go on an on.

With a single run down the track it's pretty much impossible to tell what happened. His reaction time, though had nothing to do with it.

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Yep and it's not uncommon for newbies on a drag stript to let up on the throttle when the cross the first set of "lines" down at the "end" of the quarter mile. This will result in both a higher E.T. and a slower terminal speed.
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Oops, make that a "drag strip".

Typos are killing me.
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Originally Posted by svtmike
Reaction time doesn't affect ET in drag racing. The ET is the time from when his front tires broke out of the staging lights to when they crossed the finish line beam.

Lots of other things can affect ET, though. He may have had VSA on. He may have been manually shifting his automatic (presuming that's what it is from the trap speed) and done it poorly. He may have launched poorly with VSA off. The list could go on an on.

With a single run down the track it's pretty much impossible to tell what happened. His reaction time, though had nothing to do with it.

Mike
If I'm not mistaken, the reaction time an indiction of how well the car got off the line. Getting a poor, slow start can mean a high time at the finish line. I'm curious as to how good of a start he had. If the VSA was on, it would have been very a poor start indeed.
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Originally Posted by jmn4667
If I'm not mistaken, the reaction time an indiction of how well the car got off the line. Getting a poor, slow start can mean a high time at the finish line. I'm curious as to how good of a start he had. If the VSA was on, it would have been very a poor start indeed.
Reaction time is the time between the green on the tree and the tires leaving the lights. (Primarily a driver measure)

ET is the time between the tires leaving the lights and the car passing the finish line. (Primarily a car measure)

The person who wins the race will have the lowest total of (RT + ET).

The 60 ft. time is the best indicator of how well the driver got the car off the line.

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Hey Mike;

The lower E.T. does not always win the race and neither does the quicker reaction time. Last week at the Winternationals, there were some real flukes in winning times. If you stage deep and leave late against a "leaver", you will lose if both cars and drivers are closely compatible.

It's weird to see a lower E.T. lose, but it does happen.
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No offense, but those times are HORRIBLE. I've ran 14.7s in my TL-S stock! Once the track opens back up, I'm going to see what my 04 TL can do.

Are you shutting VSA off?? Leaving it ON costs you 0.2-0.3 sec in the 1/4 mile.
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I want to go to the trck soon
Old 02-19-2005, 02:26 PM
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Those #'s can't be true with our 270hp TL. Even my friend's TSX ran 15.3 sec on a 1/4mile run. You must of did something wrong!!! You should be running in the low 14's if you have a MT and mid 14's for AT.
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that time seems a bit high, but i think it's gonna be pretty hard to get the time down to mid 14's. there was another member who took his 5AT to the track last summer i believe. the best he ran out of 5 runs i think was high 14's most of the time he got mid to low 15's. i'll see if i can find that thread.
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here is Peter's thread about his track experience. here

here is NightRider's track time, which was pretty bad. this one definitely doesn't reflect the 5AT performance. here

flnsx track time. here

ok this is the thread i was talking about. he had 6 runs and most were in the 15's but he did manage to get a couple just under 15 into the high 14's. here

what i get from all these track threads is that the 5AT TL is hard to launch and get good times from. i personally think that the car is probably capable of much better times than what any of these forum members have run but it takes some technique and not just stomp on the gas pedal. here is a thread from TOV that got a pretty good ET with the 5AT here
Old 02-19-2005, 03:08 PM
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We can't make any judgements until we see what the track conditions were. The elevaton, humidity and temp can make a significant difference in times. The G35 didn't do great either so I'm thinking bad track conditions. Since he is new at this (I'm assumming) he didn't do too bad. It takes practice especially if you are new to driving a manual. Also, the FWD are hard to launch right.

I say you should take it to a road course. I bet that A-spec will really help with the handling.
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Hey Mike;

The lower E.T. does not always win the race and neither does the quicker reaction time. Last week at the Winternationals, there were some real flukes in winning times. If you stage deep and leave late against a "leaver", you will lose if both cars and drivers are closely compatible.

It's weird to see a lower E.T. lose, but it does happen.
Yes, it does. I did it quite a few times to a friend who had a quicker car but poorer launch technique than mine.

Staging strategies are something you get into when you're well beyond the casual weekend let's-see-what-numbers-my-car-runs phase.

Personally, I like handicap drag racing. Then it doesn't matter what you drive it's how consistently you can run it.

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Hey Reshan! It's Neffster, Ian's buddie who organized the G35 track night.

For those of you reading this thread... FYI, we had several different models of G35's show up. There was a slightly modded 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT with a few mods and heavy wheels (see pic below) that ran a 14.454 at 97.17 and another 2004 G35 Coupe 5AT ran a 14.565 at 96.75 set up with an intake only. Several other guys were there too, a 2005 Coupe 6MT ran a 14.7x at 96.x and then your buddie Ian who's times I don't have.

We all had a really good time and I welcome you and any other guys from this forum to come out at our next trip to the Orlando Speedworld and join us for a friendly evening of fun. I'll give you a longer heads up next time so that you can drum up a little support from the Orlando area TL community.

Back to lurking, us G35 guys are supposed to read and keep quiet.





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Old 02-19-2005, 06:27 PM
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Darn, only a 5 minute editing period... Well here is the information for those that were interested in "The elevation, humidity and temp..." etc.

Elevation = 66 ft above sea level
Temperatures = ~54 degrees Fahrenheit at 8:30 pm
Humidity = ~60%
Dew Point = ~48 degrees Fahrenheit
Altimeter Setting = ~30 in Hg.

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Originally Posted by WDP-Acura TL
I own a 04 WDP-TL with Nav ,A-spec kit and all. I ran a 1/4 mile in 15.75 sec, top speed was 91.4 mph. Raced against my friends 04 G35 Coupe which he destroyed me . His top speed was 96 mph and ran a 1/4 mile in 14.8 sec. It was fun. I want mods now to make this puppy growl, haha and sprint like a chettah on streriods, lol j/k.

The time you've got is very strange . I am very sure you can do much better!!!. I have a 2005 TL MT and I've got 14.84 for 1/4 mile at 96.8 mph. You either did something terribly wrong or....you felt in love with G35 Coupe. BTW G35 coupe is a faster car but not by much...
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Originally Posted by neffster

Back to lurking, us G35 guys are supposed to read and keep quiet.





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LOL, blew your cover. Nice ride in the pic.
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Originally Posted by apwalsh
LOL, blew your cover. Nice ride in the pic.
Thanks, that's my baby. I also forgot to mention that both of my 2 runs were IDENTICAL 14.4 times and I ran with 2 child seats, the spare tire and tools, along with a breaker bar, torque wrench, air compressor, etc... in the trunk and ~1/2 a tank of gas.

The guy who started this thread, Reshan, had an automatic and he told me that his VSA? was off. (I'm used to VDC for the G35). Anyway I believe he made 3 runs and my guess is that he's posting his best time of the night. Hopefully he'll log back on and comment further.
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Originally Posted by nikko
The time you've got is very strange . I am very sure you can do much better!!!. I have a 2005 TL MT and I've got 14.84 for 1/4 mile at 96.8 mph. You either did something terribly wrong or....you felt in love with G35 Coupe. BTW G35 coupe is a faster car but not by much...
with the MT you should be able to run a little faster than 14.84. i've seen most people post their times for the MT to be in the low 14's.
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Last week at the Winternationals, there were a number of cars with lower E.T.'s that lost their races. Not a common occurrence, but it does happen.
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Originally Posted by caball88
with the MT you should be able to run a little faster than 14.84. i've seen most people post their times for the MT to be in the low 14's.
I had a bunch of stuff in my trunk, I am sure I can get it to mid 14.
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Originally Posted by nikko
I had a bunch of stuff in my trunk, I am sure I can get it to mid 14.
When you go racing, clear your trunk of EVERYTHING including your spare and jack. Also, you should have < 1/4 tank of gas (ideally 1/8 tank or less) When I ran my Maxima's best time, my 'DTE' read 50 miles. With the G35C 5AT, you should be able to at least run as quick as my Maxima's best time.

But it sounds like the conditions posted by Neffster were VERY ideal and it seems that WDP should have run about 1 second quicker. However, the most important (as he posted) was that he had fun.....and that's what it's all about.
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Incidentally, are any of you guys heading to Street Wars @ Etown on 3/5/05?? Be nice to see some of the TLs represent.
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Originally Posted by WDP-Acura TL
I own a 04 WDP-TL with Nav ,A-spec kit and all. I ran a 1/4 mile in 15.75 sec, top speed was 91.4 mph. Raced against my friends 04 G35 Coupe which he destroyed me . His top speed was 96 mph and ran a 1/4 mile in 14.8 sec. It was fun. I want mods now to make this puppy growl, haha and sprint like a chettah on streriods, lol j/k.
You sure have gotten quiet ever since that track day, huh? What happened to all the smack talk about how you'd leave me in the dust? Not even your precious A-Spec kit/wheels/toyo tires saved you. At least you had your nav to find out how much farther I was once I pulled 3 car lengths ahead on you at the drag strip. So tell me....how was the view of my taillights as I flew past you? It made you want to go to your nearest Infiniti dealership and trade that puny TL in for a Diamond Graphite G coupe, didn't it? Admit it....

Oh...and btw....i'm just kidding! Don't take anything I said above seriously. I'm just busting your balls

You know who this is, Rahshan. I hope you had a great time at the track with my G35 buddies and I. Even though you got slaughtered by myself and then an old school 98 maxima (again...just kidding, had to do it ), whats important is that you had fun and learned more about what your car can do (which is not allot, slowpoke...just kidding again! )
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Godamn there are alot of track newbs on here.

I'm sad to see s many slow TL's. My gf's bone stock 03 Maxima auto runs 14.9's , and it has like 30hp less than a TL. lol

I suggest you guys having trouble with your 1/4 times, or if you havent gone to a track before to do some searching on the CL site. It seems like the people on there go to the track ALOT more, and could help out some of you guys having bad times.

And if I owned a G35 and didnt run low 14's I would be embaressed, so dont get too cocky just yet.
Old 02-21-2005, 06:16 AM
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I ran three times and each time I ran my 1/4 mile time improved but wasnt near the 14 sec mark. My 1st run muy reaction time was .854. That improved on each run. I own a 04' Automatic. When I ran my VSA was off. My casr has 14,500 miles. The temps that night was 60 degrees.
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Originally Posted by jtkz13
I'm sad to see s many slow TL's.
I seriously doubt it was a "slow TL"...more like a bad driver when it comes to racing. You can have a very fast car, but put somebody in it that doesn't have experience with racing and they WILL post a poor time.
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I took my 04 AT to the race track for the first time two weeks ago, everything in the car is stock. In 4 runs the best time i got on the 1/4 was 14.6 at 97MPH with R/T of .189, 60ft at 2.332. the worst was 14.8 at 96MPH with R/T of .258, 60ft at 2.412.
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More info. I had the VSA off, Start off at L, shift to D like at 6,700, from D to SS2 right away, then to SS3rd like at 6,700 again.
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I you were at Qrlando Speedway....That track takes some time to get use to.
if your looking down the track the left side gives you alot of wheel hop(at least it did in my Stock '03TL-S) But for some reason i got my best time in that lane 14.86 @ 94mph.
I mostly try to get into the right lane.

I haven't taken the new one out yet, but i'm looking forward to it.
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